Joshua Zirkzee

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Not sure if £10 million would even cover the final payment for Zirkzee. When we signed him we chose to pay more than his minimum fee release of £34 over 3 years, he's been here 2 years. No idea if they are equal payments every year or how it works out. Granted I'm not sure another club will pay more than £10 million, its just a sad number regardless with us paying something like that every season for him
 
Why has he suddenly become a good player in the last half an hour?

He hasn't, but you can't tell me we were better off not having him at all without a replacement.

It's not like he comes on and disgraces himself, he just gets a bad time because he looks tidy in his play, but then doesn't offer as much as people think he should.

Could be useful for the CL games too.
 
On the one hand yes but the fact is the offer came just before the window closes so they may well have had targets but Everton left it too late for us to move on one of them. I would have let him go anyway, he is going to get next to no minutes here and we will be loaning him to a Serie B side next summer for a bottle of Grappa and 5% of his wages covered.
This would have been ok if we'd got our new player in earlier in the window.
 
Can't wait for him to put on his usual "don't give a feck" performance while everyone around him runs like mad.
Or even strolls past him. I haven't got over that Newcastle game... or 33 mins of it... when Eriksen wandered right past him with the ball... twice. Zz never even moved. Astounding that he will be still at the club two years after that performance. 10M was not enough?
 
Or even strolls past him. I haven't got over that Newcastle game... or 33 mins of it... when Eriksen wandered right past him with the ball... twice. Zz never even moved. Astounding that he will be still at the club two years after that performance. 10M was not enough?
Exactly, no wonder people aren't offering money
 
Typical hoarder behavior. Zirkzee clearly doesn't have a future here. Keeping him because of "what if" reasons is why United is so bad at selling. Even if what if happens, there are tons of other better options before Zirkzee even becomes close as THE solution.
 
Not enough time to find a replacement? Why didn't we have someone lined up just in case?

It's not like Juventus and fiorentina both enquired. What were we going to do? Spend a day "assessing the market again"?


Piss poor planning prevents player procurement: perennial problems persist, permanently preventing progression. Practically promising pedestrian PL prospects. Painfully predictable. Probable predicament principally produced by preposterous prats persistently presiding over perpetually perplexing project. PL pretenders pour plentiful pounds, proactively pursuing prized players. Paltry prospects prevail.
 
Not enough time to find a replacement? Why didn't we have someone lined up just in case?

It's not like Juventus and fiorentina both enquired. What were we going to do? Spend a day "assessing the market again"?


Infuriating stuff. We were trying to get rid of him all summer, but we didn’t have a plan in case we did it. I know it was late in the window, but this shows how poorly we’re managed. The whole sporting side is a mess. Heads should roll, but I’m sure Ratcliffe is happy they managed to keep the expenditure to a minimum. Feck them rats.
 
Not enough time to find a replacement? Why didn't we have someone lined up just in case?

It's not like Juventus and fiorentina both enquired. What were we going to do? Spend a day "assessing the market again"?



Sounds like the club already decided he was staying unless a decent transfer fee came in. Yeah clubs enquired and started talking to us about him but they were loans not motivating us to look for a replacement with small time left in the window. I know a lot of posters dont rate him even as a squad option, but we clearly do.
 
No offence to him or his fans on here but I hope every single minute that would go to him goes to one of our youth players to see what we have and who can develop for larger roles in the future.
 
Not enough time to find a replacement? Why didn't we have someone lined up just in case?

It's not like Juventus and fiorentina both enquired. What were we going to do? Spend a day "assessing the market again"?
I'm as critical as anyone of the way we're run.

But expecting us to find a replacement in two hours is a bit of a stretch.
 
Piss poor planning prevents player procurement: perennial problems persist, permanently preventing progression. Practically promising pedestrian PL prospects. Painfully predictable. Probable predicament principally produced by preposterous prats persistently presiding over perpetually perplexing project. PL pretenders pour plentiful pounds, proactively pursuing prized players. Paltry prospects prevail.

Bit p'd off?
 
Imagine using Zirkzee as your smokescreen for Woltemade. Terrible times. I do like Zirkzee in the sense that he can do some pretty cool things and has a certain flair about him. Nowhere worthy of a starting spot in any game but I don't think he is a bad bench option if the alternative is a snide loan deal with no obligation from the stingiest league in the world. If somebody was throwing 20m at us though, I'd sell.
 
Knew this would happen. Oh well, hope he does well, I still prefer Zirkzee upfront over Mbeumo. He will be third choice behind Sesko and Cunha.
 
Infuriating stuff. We were trying to get rid of him all summer, but we didn’t have a plan in case we did it. I know it was late in the window, but this shows how poorly we’re managed. The whole sporting side is a mess. Heads should roll, but I’m sure Ratcliffe is happy they managed to keep the expenditure to a minimum. Feck them rats.
Oh yeah he won't be sacking any of Berrada, Wilcox or that clown Hargreaves unfortunately
 
So how to use him then?

I guess with Rashford and Mbeumo flanking him as he drops to be a playmaker of sort?

He will get games. Coaches must put him in situations to excel.
 
Everton fans are happy that we rejected their enquiries about him, that's how highly he's rated.
 
Must be frustrating for him too. Can’t buy a game here - he’s honestly behind Sesko, Mbuemo, Cunha, Rashford maybe even fecking Bruno as a striker. He’ll play the odd cup games but even then I worry he won’t be very useful.
 
I have an odd feeling he will become useful . Hes not bad as a pivot point for our two wingers and a roaming Bruno. Hope the best for him this season
 
Not enough time to find a replacement? Why didn't we have someone lined up just in case?

It's not like Juventus and fiorentina both enquired. What were we going to do? Spend a day "assessing the market again"?


This means that when we were dealing with Juventus we didn’t have a replacement lined up we can call on late in the window.
 
Knew this would happen. Oh well, hope he does well, I still prefer Zirkzee upfront over Mbeumo. He will be third choice behind Sesko and Cunha.
Even if Mbeumo isn’t to your taste, that’s a wild take for me.

He’s got 25 open play prem goals in his last two seasons. Zirkzee would need about 100 more games to do that.
 
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