Jude Bellingham | Confirmed Borussia Dortmund player

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Not fussed really, in no world should be spending such a fee and promising a first team role for a 16 year old.
 

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So has he signed for Dortmund or is this just rumours at this point? Surely he's not going to accept the first offer that comes in.
Sun say: Dortmund Leading race

Mail say: To become record signing

Most say it’s a done deal, fee agreed
 

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It's somewhat pointless to think of these things right now when we don't know on what position they would see Bellingham (don't really know much about him, but he seems to have played on the wings lately), how quickly they and he himself would expect him to progress to and within the first team and perhaps most importantly what system next season's coach will prefer.
I agree, especially on the coach part, Favre will probably only stay if he wins the title which is a long shot. Generally I think Bellingham would take Goetze's squad place, not necessarily his minutes, though. I don't know much about the player, but he seems versatile, so could fit in anywhere in midfield or attack.
 

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Ironic that the Germans are starting to steal young English talent isn't it? our youth coaches are obviously doing something right these days.
 

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Ironic that the Germans are starting to steal young English talent isn't it? our youth coaches are obviously doing something right these days.
Germany hasn't got that many great talents anymore like they used to. England have done a better job in that regard lately.
 

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Ironic that the Germans are starting to steal young English talent isn't it? our youth coaches are obviously doing something right these days.
That much is obviously true, but other factors are probably language (or the lack of a barrier) and finances, as the moment you sign an English kid you've basically already turned a profit on him.
 

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That much is obviously true, but other factors are probably language (or the lack of a barrier) and finances, as the moment you sign an English kid you've basically already turned a profit on him.
Yeah, Dortmund have obviously realised the English talents are cash cows. Sancho has turned out beyond your wildest dreams, but who knows if the next will be as good. Not sure Bellingham is in the same talent level.
 

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Yeah, Dortmund have obviously realised the English talents are cash cows. Sancho has turned out beyond your wildest dreams, but who knows if the next will be as good. Not sure Bellingham is in the same talent level.
Does he have to be though? They sold Pulisic to Chelsea for €65m and he was basically a squad player. If you give a a reasonably talented player some minutes against weak or (already) beaten opposition, to play alongside Haaland, Brandt, etc. then he's basically bound to pick up goals and assists and then someone will bite, even if he doesn't turn into a great player.
 

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I quite like Dortmund buying young English talent. Because their model is to always sell. So, they buy them, they get to develop in a decent league and play way more first teams games than they would over here at prem level. Then the English clubs buy them back as ready first teamers.
 

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I quite like Dortmund buying young English talent. Because their model is to always sell. So, they buy them, they get to develop in a decent league and play way more first teams games than they would over here at prem level. Then the English clubs buy them back as ready first teamers.
Yeah, if Sancho stayed at City or went to Liverpool etc we wouldnt have had a chance to be in for him for a decade or so.
I cant see the long term benefits of being a selling club, i mean Sancho is probably off this summer while Halaand had a buy out clause that kicks in next year for a reason.
Hell why hang onto Halaand now and lose him in 12 months for 70m when you can sell him for 100m next month?
It becomes a bit of a mess.
 

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Does he have to be though? They sold Pulisic to Chelsea for €65m and he was basically a squad player. If you give a a reasonably talented player some minutes against weak or (already) beaten opposition, to play alongside Haaland, Brandt, etc. then he's basically bound to pick up goals and assists and then someone will bite, even if he doesn't turn into a great player.
Think Pulisic being American was a special case but yes I agree, rich English clubs are always in the marget for good young players. I don't blame Dortmund going this route, they can get the best young players for a few years, challenge Bayern and then move them on for a profit.
 

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Fair play, Dortmund have created conditions where young players can be given a proper chance, thrive and improved with top coaches. They won't be able to fully compete commercially with the big boys but can make a lot of money from players sales.
 

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Sensible move, he'll flourish at Dortmund but I'm not convinced any of the top 6 sides in the PL would offer him enough minutes.
Not right now and probably rightfully so, he’s only 16. He was never coming here next season and starting regularly for us in the league.
 

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Career path wise its hard not to argue with this move sadly for up and coming talents. They will get minutes on the pitch in a fantastic stadium with great support and be let go when they want to take the next step up. It's a no brainer really for young players.
 

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Sounds like Sancho is indeed leaving in the summer. A one for one replacement-like (yes i know they don’t play in the same position but you get the drift)
 

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Viera from the Brum from what I have seen so far. Maybe more Yaya Toure. I'm certain he would choose Man Utd over Dortmund. I think the young British core that Ole is building, appeals to this type of player. They can all be friends and grow together like the class of 92. Dortmund squad has a few weirdo youngsters like Haaland. Don't want to be friends with guys who look like him!
 

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Think it will happen more and more. More chance of these kids landing at a top PL club. Learn some independence, different lifestyle, great league to play in. Sensible decision. More and more will chance their luck.
 

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Germany hasn't got that many great talents anymore like they used to. England have done a better job in that regard lately.
Youssoufa Moukoko is one of the best teenage strikers on the planet (18 and under) he is 15.
 

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Fellow Utd fans getting angry (and presumably jealous) because a club that is set up as a player-developing and selling club, is attracting young players to develop and sell.

But if United were that, they would be fuming that the club is a no-ambition, selling club. And when those 17-20yo starlets go through the inevitable and totally predictable slumps or poor performances, they'd be butchering them in the performance threads like they do with our current players.

Y'all have issues, you should see a therapist.
 

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Its bit of an exaggeration though. Even in our bad years (since 2012) the one thing that has been consistent is our ability to give youngsters an opportunity. If you are talented enough , you will get enough opportunities at United as well.
Gomes hasn't had a chance despite being older than Bellingham and our 10's/8's being out of form for a long time.
 

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We have some fine youngsters that can be turned into TOP players with good coaching.
Garner, Mejbri, and others are not far away from first team, and these should be coached for specialist positions.
 

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Fellow Utd fans getting angry (and presumably jealous) because a club that is set up as a player-developing and selling club, is attracting young players to develop and sell.

But if United were that, they would be fuming that the club is a no-ambition, selling club. And when those 17-20yo starlets go through the inevitable and totally predictable slumps or poor performances, they'd be butchering them in the performance threads like they do with our current players.

Y'all have issues, you should see a therapist.
A lot of our fans are still struggling with reality.
 

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Gomes hasn't had a chance despite being older than Bellingham and our 10's/8's being out of form for a long time.
He is probably not ready yet or could be the contract issues. We know feck all what's happening behind the scenes. Think about this- why would Ole keep him away when he has given Chong and Greenwood the minutes .
 

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Not too bothered... Garner, Mejbri and Angel Gomes are all top youngsters that will be given a chance eventually. I'd bet that Garner and Gomes especially would be doing great in the championship right now too.
 

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Maybe this is part of the problem, surly we will not be playing two 17/18 year olds in central midfield at the same time, looks like to much competition maybe, but man, those two playing together at central midfield is a Champions League wining combination...
Dortmund have Reyna who is 17, plus Witsel, Can, Delaney, Dahoud and Brandt, nothing wrong with a little competition. This deal seems to have come down to who can develop him properly and I'd say Dortmund is the best place, simply because he won't have the English media following his every move.
 

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why's that?

surely the player should just decide on what is best for his career
Completely agree. Nothing agains Bellingham. He absolutely has to make the best decision for himself.

This isn't the brexit you voted for is it?
Haha. I am not even English. Would you expect an upcoming German talent to go from a German club to English club? Not really right. For rest of my reply see down.

It reflects very poorly on the top English clubs to miss out on another English talent to Germany.
That was what I meant to say when I said English clubs should not be missing out on England's talent.

I do feel United, Chelsea now, Arsenal and Spurs are likely to give youngsters some game time as they are rebuilding.

What I mean to say is English clubs should be able to offer enough game time to their own talents. They sure can't get the best south american talents to come here. English clubs don't often get the young European talents either. How can this be sustainable long term paying ridiculous fees for Sancho/Pulisic etc etc.
 

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So they didn’t want to uproot from Birmingham for Manchester’s but will now move him to a new country? Strange.
 

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Completely agree. Nothing agains Bellingham. He absolutely has to make the best decision for himself.



Haha. I am not even English. Would you expect an upcoming German talent to go from a German club to English club? Not really right. For rest of my reply see down.



That was what I meant to say when I said English clubs should not be missing out on England's talent.

I do feel United, Chelsea now, Arsenal and Spurs are likely to give youngsters some game time as they are rebuilding.

What I mean to say is English clubs should be able to offer enough game time to their own talents. They sure can't get the best south american talents to come here. English clubs don't often get the young European talents either. How can this be sustainable long term paying ridiculous fees for Sancho/Pulisic etc etc.
I know I was only joking. I agree in a way. But then I think dortmund represent one of the best options for any young player anywhere. English teams have pilfered Spain and France for years and years so one or two players going to Germany isn't of much concern.
 

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Idiot. Slavery has never & should never be a joke.

Don’t understand how you got there but it’s RaceCaf so I guess I should have expected it.

Multiple Caf ITKs were saying Bellingham would happen in the summer. TICK

Two very talented youngsters appear to be choosing Dortmund over United. TICK

TheReligion somehow draws a connection to slavery from those comments. TICK

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What does your sex and ethnicity have to do with anything? I got there due to your repeated moaning at the club for missing out on a player who has been advised to go everywhere. Unfortunately the club can't force players to play for them or make them sign contracts. I thought this would be obvious.

The only joke here is you and your abrasive, petulant attitude.
 
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