Jude Bellingham | Real Madrid player

Really surprised that he's now only seen as a CAM, dont think those were his main positions for Birmingham nor Dortmund. He rose to fame playing as a CM, that debut season at Real has really changed people's perception of him.

Precisely, he is not primarily a 10 and is an all rounded player.

I think he would be one to just keep tabs on to see if eventually it falls apart there, not much chance of anything crashing yet.
 
He’s my favourite non-United player. For me one of the top players around and England’s only world class player not called Harry Kane. His ability to work the ball within tight space is top. He has the swagger of a United player too, sorry.
 
Precisely, he is not primarily a 10 and is an all rounded player.

I think he would be one to just keep tabs on to see if eventually it falls apart there, not much chance of anything crashing yet.
I‘d argue his positional sense and defensive awareness are his weak spots so playing him up the pitch makes sense.
 
If there's ever a chance to sign him for a pl team you just do it and hope for the best. No doubt he'll be one of the top players once he settles. Thing is I just don't see Ineos ever shelling out the kind of money required to sign any of these superstars anymore, although with Bellingham they may make an exception but for me he would most likely end up at City alongside any other player who wants 3/400k per week to move
 
He’s my favourite non-United player. For me one of the top players around and England’s only world class player not called Harry Kane. His ability to work the ball within tight space is top. He has the swagger of a United player too, sorry.
Yeah exactly. Nothing wrong with swagger if it’s justified… I’d wager almost all of our best players had exactly that anyway.

Put plainly like others have said, if a player like him is ever available you do what you can to land him
 
Precisely, he is not primarily a 10 and is an all rounded player.
His best qualities are carrying the ball in transition, crashing the box and jumping passing lanes

His weaknesses are defensive awareness, tactical discipline, and decision making in deeper areas

He's primarily a 10 because that's the role that gets the best of him
 
Precisely, he is not primarily a 10 and is an all rounded player.

I think he would be one to just keep tabs on to see if eventually it falls apart there, not much chance of anything crashing yet.
he is definitely a 10, or even a SS.
 
I wonder if there's a chance here.. with Madrid looking for a new midfielder apparently - given 120m quotes on Anderson?
I think he wants to avoid the Prem at all costs.

Avoid the media attention and avoid the physicality of the football here in England. Obviously if Madrid desperately wanted him gone, he'd probably have no other choice than the Premier League.

Brand Bellingham has benefitted massively from people here not actually watching much Spanish football, from every detail of his game and character being picked apart by the British press constantly, from being on a different physical level to everyone in Spain, and just the general Halo effect of Madrid.

I think people appreciate English players more (and dislike them less) as soon as they play outside of England.
 
His best qualities are carrying the ball in transition, crashing the box and jumping passing lanes

His weaknesses are defensive awareness, tactical discipline, and decision making in deeper areas

He's primarily a 10 because that's the role that gets the best of him

Great description, yet I see him more like once I've deamed a dynamic number 8. He is indeed one of those players without a clear role, than calling him a box to box.
 
Great description, yet I see him more like once I've deamed a dynamic number 8. He is indeed one of those players without a clear role, than calling him a box to box.
I don't think he has the positioning, discipline, or passing to be as effective as an 8 as he is a 10.
 
I don't think he has the positioning, discipline, or passing to be as effective as an 8 as he is a 10.

He started on the wing almost with Birmingham didn't he? The old Fergie trick. I think Bellingham like Pogba can play 8 or 10 and could probably do very well at 6 if they were put there by a manager they reallly believed in. I'd be buying Bellingham as a Bruno replacement. Much different style but I think that would get the best out of him. I think we missed a trick not doing that with Pogba
 
I don't think he has the positioning, discipline, or passing to be as effective as an 8 as he is a 10.

I think otherwise that's harder to be a proper 10: play at times with your back against the rival net. To be aware constantly of your mates position, to have the visión to bring others to play and keep a tight fit, to hold it and make a pause when needed, to dribble in tight spaces and therefore create space, to be a constant menace with passes/through balls, to put a game literally under his foot, etc...all those are some atributes of a great real 10.

On the other hand, even if it's better to have at least some of those, or in a lesser level as an 8 more when one of those are like some sort of 10bis (Iniesta, Ardiles, Brindisi, etc).

As a dinamic 8 you can be forgiven to be less tactical, more oportunistic, at least offer yourself constanly as an option of pass to the 10 and CM as an auxiliary wheel, to also be an option of pass regularly running into channels, to crash the box, to help to pressure and defend, to be an option of pass when the 10 is isolated, to be disruptive with all of that while producing numbers...Jude fits better this last tasks than the ones from a proper 10.

The thing it's, in what team he is, what does this particular team has as a 10, a CM or a media punta.

If those are lacking, Jude can be at least very good support striker, media punta even and act at times like the 10 as the main offensive mid...but he would never be a true one and work better as an ally of one of those or of at least a great commanding CM
 
I think otherwise that's harder to be a proper 10: play at times with your back against the rival net. To be aware constantly of your mates position, to have the visión to bring others to play and keep a tight fit, to hold it and make a pause when needed, to dribble in tight spaces and therefore create space, to be a constant menace with passes/through balls, to put a game literally under his foot, etc...all those are some atributes of a great real 10.

On the other hand, even if it's better to have at least some of those, or in a lesser level as an 8 more when one of those are like some sort of 10bis (Iniesta, Ardiles, Brindisi, etc).

As a dinamic 8 you can be forgiven to be less tactical, more oportunistic, at least offer yourself constanly as an option of pass to the 10 and CM as an auxiliary wheel, to also be an option of pass regularly running into channels, to crash the box, to help to pressure and defend, to be an option of pass when the 10 is isolated, to be disruptive with all of that while producing numbers...Jude fits better this last tasks than the ones from a proper 10.

The thing it's, in what team he is, what does this particular team has as a 10, a CM or a media punta.

If those are lacking, Jude can be at least very good support striker, media punta even and act at times like the 10 as the main offensive mid...but he would never be a true one and work better as an ally of one of those or of at least a great commanding CM
i would say PSG and barcelona show the opposite in many ways.
 
i would say PSG and barcelona show the opposite in many ways.

Both teams have proper excellent CMs., deep lying playmakers, at times more than one to do some tasks of proper classic 10s. Then also have proper team oriented dribblers to fill such demand, in some cases these last ones with traits of 10s/enganches that maybe not now, but in the future some of those fellas will drop deeper, more centraly and play as a proper 10.
 
I‘d argue his positional sense and defensive awareness are his weak spots so playing him up the pitch makes sense.

His best qualities are carrying the ball in transition, crashing the box and jumping passing lanes

His weaknesses are defensive awareness, tactical discipline, and decision making in deeper areas

He's primarily a 10 because that's the role that gets the best of him

I don't think he has the positioning, discipline, or passing to be as effective as an 8 as he is a 10.

Somenone please believe this!
 
I think his greatest strengths are his positional awareness, discipline and his passing. He’d be great as a number 8.
 
I feel he has too much of a main character energy to be an effective #8 which is why he’s played as a #10.
At #8 he needs to sacrifice for the players around him and not seek the initial applause. A solid #8 gets long term applause - if only he recognised that.

That ‘who else’ moment in the last WC is something I cannot forget.
 
Both teams have proper excellent CMs., deep lying playmakers, at times more than one to do some tasks of proper classic 10s. Then also have proper team oriented dribblers to fill such demand, in some cases these last ones with traits of 10s/enganches that maybe not now, but in the future some of those fellas will drop deeper, more centraly and play as a proper 10.
PSG has 2 very disciplined player who have elite positioning. Barcelona does not, it has players who are amazing technically, but horrible positionally, generally poor defensively and they get punished for it, its arguably the main reason they are not of of the top CL teams.
 
If there's ever a chance to sign him for a pl team you just do it and hope for the best. No doubt he'll be one of the top players once he settles. Thing is I just don't see Ineos ever shelling out the kind of money required to sign any of these superstars anymore, although with Bellingham they may make an exception but for me he would most likely end up at City alongside any other player who wants 3/400k per week to move
Yeah but he might not fancy playing in league 2.
 
Is it lazy to say it would be a Pogba repeat? As in we couldn’t really play around his strengths and the media would destroy him.
 
PSG has 2 very disciplined player who have elite positioning. Barcelona does not, it has players who are amazing technically, but horrible positionally, generally poor defensively and they get punished for it, its arguably the main reason they are not of of the top CL teams.

Nah Pedri is not horrible in his positioning, De Jong is more of a loose cannon at times, yet the main aspect I was reffering was in their ability to do lots of the typical 10s tasks, asking a 10 to take too much burden of the defensive side, it's not very 10 alike, the worst a 10 can do defensivly is being too much reckless with the ball at his feet in whatever play they try while at the same time not loosing that edge that creates sthg at times out of nothing, a difficult balance that makes the 10 role a task for really skill and talented fellas.
With Barca you also have to atke in account the Flick startegy, like Menotti and his "achique", it's a very very risky high line the one they play, more than having stupid midfielders.
 
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Nah Pedri is not horrible in his positioning, De Jong is more of a loose cannon at times, yet the main aspect I was reffering was in their ability to do lots of the typical 10s tasks, asking a 10 to take too much burden of the defensive side, it's not very 10 alike, the worst a 10 can do defensivly is being too much reckless with the ball at his feet in whatever play they try while at the same time not loosing that edge that creates sthg at times out of nothing, a difficult balance that makes the 10 role a task for really skill and talented fellas.
With Barca you also have to atke in account the Flick startegy, like Menotti and his "achique", it's a very very risky high line the one they play, more than having stupid midfielders.
The conversation was about putting Bellingham as an 8.
 
The conversation was about putting Bellingham as an 8.

More than that, I was talking about that Jude even if I get being used as a 10 in Real, I don't feel he has the atributes I like in those. And as an 8, I do think that if has a proper 10 beside, or at least great CMs/deep lying playmakers, his style would suit better to such squeme