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In one word: over rated...
In a word? Averypromisingmanager
In one word: over rated...
In a word? Averypromisingmanager
Nagelsmann has no reason to leave the Red Bull organisation for Arsenal, to be fair. At Leipzig, he has a really good support system around him wrt. team building and scouting and sports science and general analytics — as well as a squad that is fairly young but brimming with quality and capable of gunning for the Bundesliga title (aside from making inroads in the European Cup for the first time in club history). Their revenues are also on the up and up with an 80% increase since 2016, not that they need a ton of external money with Dietrich Mateschitz as the owner if they feel the need to flex for some reason. He would be daft to relinquish those near-perfect and moderate-pressure conditions for a young manager — only to join the arduous battle of Top 4 qualification in the Premier League (and challenging apex predators Guardiola/Klopp when he's still developing and not quite ready to grapple with them on an equal footing for a sustained period of time). If Nagelsmann does leave Leipzig before the expiration of his contract in 2022, it will probably only be to a club that's close to the top of the food chain (or capable of getting there in short order).If Arsenal gets him, oh boy.
What is the point of a post such as this one?People talk about this guy as if he has shown the same type of promise as Mourinho when he left Porto. I don't see it personally but I don't really follow German football.
Hasenhüttl had two seasons there, his first was quite good. His second very bad where they ended up in 6th conceding 53 goals and generally being a porous team that was easy to attack. This year only one team has conceded less than them and no team has scored more. That’s not to take into account Europe where they’re far better this year.Did i really??
Well his teams have yet to convince me. Too open in the back. Ralph Hasenhuttle's Leipzig was a more solid team imo.
I highlighted/bolded the part in your post where you said you don't follow German football. I think that is more than enough context to see why I found your opinion oddYour profile says you are 34 years of age, you just posted a little emoji of a face rolling it's eyes with no actual context as to why you disagree.
The above sounds as though it should be an oxymoron but apparently not.
What is the point on any post online?What is the point of a post such as this one?
Hasenhüttl had them playing as a typical pressing team, very intense, nasty to play against, lots of directness, but little ideas on how to break down opposition. It wasn't the biggest surprise in the world that they struggled to consistently grind out results in their second season, after the novelty and euphoria of their first season wore off. Nagelsmann's profile is much more complete, he kept some of the pressing/transitional style of Hasenhüttl and Rangnick, that's typical for the RB clubs and started to work on their positional play, trying to make them more consistent in possession. Naturally trying to be more dominant can look and be more risky at times.Hasenhüttl had two seasons there, his first was quite good. His second very bad where they ended up in 6th conceding 53 goals and generally being a porous team that was easy to attack. This year only one team has conceded less than them and no team has scored more. That’s not to take into account Europe where they’re far better this year.
I’m going to have to disagree and assume your opinion is not based on actual reality
I don't need to watch German football every week to know that hiring a 32 year old who has only accomplished what numerous young managers have accomplished is hugely risky for a huge club.I highlighted/bolded the part in your post where you said you don't follow German football. I think that is more than enough context to see why I found your opinion odd
Also what has age got to do with it?
Could you jot down a nice list of all of those managers for us?I don't need to watch German football every week to know that hiring a 32 year old who has only accomplished what numerous young managers have accomplished is hugely risky for a huge club.
Maturity mate.
So you think its mature to say you don't see promise in a manager who you have not bothered to follow?I don't need to watch German football every week to know that hiring a 32 year old who has only accomplished what numerous young managers have accomplished is hugely risky for a huge club.
Maturity mate.
Your post was the equivalent of me saying "I don't follow the stock market but you shouldn't buy Apple shares."What is the point on any post online?
Sometimes a bigger challenge and a "double your salary" card is enough to get anyone. I think Arsenal would be a good option for him before getting the Bayern job.Nagelsmann has no reason to leave the Red Bull organisation for Arsenal, to be fair. At Leipzig, he has a really good support system around him wrt. team building and scouting and sports science and general analytics — as well as a squad that is fairly young but brimming with quality and capable of gunning for the Bundesliga title (aside from making inroads in the European Cup for the first time in club history). Their revenues are also on the up and up with an 80% increase since 2016, not that they need a ton of external money with Dietrich Mateschitz as the owner if they feel the need to flex for some reason. He would be daft to relinquish those near-perfect and moderate-pressure conditions for a young manager — only to join the arduous battle of Top 4 qualification in the Premier League (and challenging apex predators Guardiola/Klopp when he's still developing and not quite ready to grapple with them on an equal footing for a sustained period of time). If Nagelsmann does leave Leipzig before the expiration of his contract in 2022, it will probably only be to a club that's close to the top of the food chain (or capable of getting there in short order).
Ed and Co would feck that up to.Double swoop for Mitchell and Nagelsmann would certainly right the sinking United ship.
He is a Bayern Fan and it's only a question of time he will coach them.Got Arsenal written all over this.
chances are close to zero, that he joins Arsenal.Got Arsenal written all over this.
Well, never say never.Sometimes a bigger challenge and a "double your salary" card is enough to get anyone. I think Arsenal would be a good option for him before getting the Bayern job.
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Without doubtsEd and Co would feck that up to.
Absolutely, that's why this appointment is crucial, if whoever gets it can't turn things around and we start losing big names we'll fall down even lower.Well, never say never.
But as it stands — the Arsenal job is like a poisoned chalice — for what it's worth, I'm not saying this to be rude, Manchester United is unfortunately in a similar kind of rinky-dink boat these days...only with higher revenues and a bigger profile. Your squad has some strengths but needs a lot of work, the administrative structure is much poorer than the Red Bull clubs under Rangnick, and you have an owner who just doesn't care — taking a job where he'll inherit those conditions and essentially have his back against the wall from the get go would be more kamikaze than being up for a challenge.
Also, the “double your salary” card will only go so far — not everyone and everything is for sale if you throw enough money around, and as mentioned in the previous post, even though he maintains a discrete profile, the owner of Leipzig is ultra-mega-wealthy (net worth in the current year matches that of Stan and Ann Walton Kroenke combined) and would have no issues countering any offers from Nagelsmann's suitors if he so desires. IMO, barring some crazy attractive offer than can't be refused in the near future, Nagelsmann will further his education at Leipzig and then manage Bayern/Barcelona (or a club with comparable stature).
The manager you should have tried to lure (in the summer gone by) is Brendan Rodgers — he was quite literally chomping at the bit, and would have definitely jumped at the chance to manage Arsenal. Wrt. up and comers, you could target Rose/Marić from Mönchengladbach, who would be a bit more realistic than Nagelsmann all things considered. Or perhaps take a punt Marsch from Salzburg (did well in the MLS and now has a 74% win record in his first season at a European club after succeeding Rose). Also, a European club really needs to invest in Marcelo Gallardo, would be a risky appointment but he can't possibly build a bigger profile at River Plate...
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Reckon we should stop trying at all.Ed and Co would feck that up to.
Yes many have actually given up all hope under their stewardship.Reckon we should stop trying at all.
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I think the most impressive thing about this guy is he has three different formations he uses for differ scenarios and he has his players coached well enough to implement all three superbly.Anyone notice RB Leipzig's formation and style of play resembles what Ole is trying to do here with the back 3. Ofcourse, RB Leipzig's players are more dialed in and technically superior but seems like Ole is definitely onto to something with the new formation. Or it could be nothing and Ole just stumbled across this new formation.
Probably more to do with Ole trying to improve us defensively and us not having many options currently in midfield and attack.Anyone notice RB Leipzig's formation and style of play resembles what Ole is trying to do here with the back 3. Ofcourse, RB Leipzig's players are more dialed in and technically superior but seems like Ole is definitely onto to something with the new formation. Or it could be nothing and Ole just stumbled across this new formation.
Amen. Couldn't agree more. Especially getting Rangnick in to work with himGlad to see him getting recognition. Since following him when he was at TSG 1899 Hoffenheim in 2016, I knew his style of football will finally go global soon when he starts to get exposure.
I'd love for us to really take a chance on him, give him the right structure with possibly working with Ralf Rangnick as a DOF/Technical and you would see him turn this club around and put us back on the top of English and European football with the resources we have.