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WonderfulWe were also in a different competition and goto the semi finals of that.
WonderfulWe were also in a different competition and goto the semi finals of that.
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Well it should be, since your claim is they are better managed. If were gonna praise JNs management for helping them get to the semi final, then Ole has to be praised for doing the same in a different competition.Wonderful
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Well he wrote "far far better" with which I disagree and their first eleven is pretty goo. They have Depth in defense and genuine quality in Upamecano, very good midfielders in Sabitzer and Kampl, and they added Sorloth to that semi final team. I think they have a top first eleven.Really?
I also think that on paper our first 11 are better but not that far apart.I think our first 11 and bench are both better. They played in the CL semis because they are managed and run better.
We have a higher ceiling in terms of most individual player's potential but the overall performance being coaxed out of these players as a team of 11 still suffers from inconsistency.I also think that on paper our first 11 are better but not that far apart.
Well I won't say that we have picked the perfect managers and they have been a factor but the blame should be on the players also, and we obviously overrate them since they are not able to perform consistently no matter who is the manager.We have a higher ceiling in terms of most individual player's potential but the overall performance being coaxed out of these players as a team of 11 still suffers from inconsistency.
On the other hand, he can just as easily become a fraud already come 10PM!This thread will be insufferable if Leipzig win today.
It's going to be insufferable both ways, if United win then Nagelsmann will be called a fraud and if RB win then Ole will be. Both statements are ridiculous and, as your say, insufferable.This thread will be insufferable if Leipzig win today.
Very high stakes for the Hipster Manager Julian Nagelsmann eh?On the other hand, he can just as easily become a fraud already come 10PM!
Not at all.Well it should be, since your claim is they are better managed. If were gonna praise JNs management for helping them get to the semi final, then Ole has to be praised for doing the same in a different competition.
Yes give him a trophy for winning a match against PSG. Incredible stuff.But again, RB lost in the semi final to a CL finalist, a team that Ole just helped to manage to outclass a few months later.
Which is as wank a point as it was then. The cost of teams tends to have correlation to the quality at their disposal, hence big spending United having better players than those that cant spend that much whether that be Reading (rubbish team) or Leipzig (good team). It's not a perfect correlation but works most times.And back to the original point, the cost of our players should have no bearing on quality of the players as this isnt decided by managers.
Lyon made it to the semi final as well. Does this mean Lyon are better managed than City with Pep?Not at all.
They are better managed hence they reached the semi final of the best competition with a relatively weak squad. We reached the semi final of a second rate European team with a far better team, club and squad being not as well managed.
Odd comment. You are changing parameters to not praise Ole but to praise RB / JN? Very odd comment to makeYes give him a trophy for winning a match against PSG. Incredible stuff.
Its not a perfect correlation for a reason. Again, spending and quantity of price of a player like @Kostov said, is not down to the manager.Which is as wank a point as it was then. The cost of teams tends to have correlation to the quality at their disposal, hence big spending United having better players than those that cant spend that much whether that be Reading (rubbish team) or Leipzig (good team). It's not a perfect correlation but works most times.
In the CL, they most certainly were.Lyon are better managed than City with Pep?
Well they have some good players. No doubt about that. But I think we have far more greater players than they have. But let’s take an example, Angelino is a starter for them, the most hated player on RedCafe, Daniel James, ripped him a new arsehole at Etihad. He even got substituted, because of all the problems James created. And also doesn’t that tell you a story when Zinchenko/Mendy was preferred to Angelino? All three of them are rubbish. And now Angelino is starting in a “top first eleven.” Ffs.Well he wrote "far far better" with which I disagree and their first eleven is pretty goo. They have Depth in defense and genuine quality in Upamecano, very good midfielders in Sabitzer and Kampl, and they added Sorloth to that semi final team. I think they have a top first eleven.
Parameters have to be changed to suit the argument against Ole. Every Ole outer I have come across will not praise the manager for things he has done right.Odd comment. You are changing parameters to not praise Ole but to praise RB / JN? Very odd comment to make
In the one game, sure? But thats Pep being too clever for his own good. But now are we taking the one game or overall?In the CL, they most certainly were.
Thats the thing, I dont mind his flaws being mentioned such as being reactive with subs rather than proactiveParameters have to be changed to suit the argument against Ole. Every Ole outer I have come across will not praise the manager for things he has done right.
Again, its easy to say hes shit just because they want a new shiny toy.
That would be a big blow. He just seems to a manager who really studies the game.Off to City I bet.
This is a United forum, if we win and people want to call Nagelsmann a fraud I couldn’t care less.It's going to be insufferable both ways, if United win then Nagelsmann will be called a fraud and if RB win then Ole will be. Both statements are ridiculous and, as your say, insufferable.
It’s a horrendous suit.Nagelsmann's outfit niggles me.