Jurriën Timber | Arsenal player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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His medal looks huge on him compared to Klaassen
His medal looks huge on him compared to Klaassen
well done
His medal looks huge on him compared to Klaassen
His medal looks huge on him compared to Klaassen
It's even funnier when you realise they're actually the exact same height
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An agency that no doubt has numerous players they manage. Means feck all, pure click bait nonsense.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/forza-sports-group/beraterfirma/berater/2553 Pretty likely to be Timber based on that list
Close dealio?
This is some top, top muppetry.
Hmm would we fly him in on some shitty charter flight? We flew Erik and his motley crew in on a private jet.
Which flight tracker app are we all using this afternoon?
Not me, I think it’s still important in the PL.
but the difference between timber and Lindelof is attitude. Timber is proactive, competes, positions well and uses his physicality. Lindelof is passive and well the absolute opposite of everything. So even though timber is smaller, I’d take him over Lindelof every time.
Smaller CBs have succeeded in English football; it’s all about attitude and timing
Im sure there is a clue in there hidden in plane sight
Isn’t he with the Ajax squad for some tour game which Ten Hag didn’t participate? Any Ajax fans know more of this?
His medal looks huge on him compared to Klaassen
He is with the Ajax squad on Curacao. He features on the latest Ajax vid on youtube.Isn’t he with the Ajax squad for some tour game which Ten Hag didn’t participate? Any Ajax fans know more of this?
Then very likely he won’t be on that chartered plane, unless it’s his camp or something. More like click bait nonsense that, I reckon
I find it amusing how often members of this forum dismiss the apparent weakness of players we are linked to, until they join and it turns out to be a major weakness after all.
Just check-out Wan-Bissaka and Maguire's transfer threads. Some were genuinely arguing that 80m was going to be a good deal for Maguire, and that there was nothing wrong with Wan-Bissaka's technique, as if Wan-Bissaka's lack of technical proficiency while he played for Palace wasn't one the most obvious things you'd notice in football. Even someone that had no history as a football fan could see that his ball handling was completely different compared to almost every other Premier League footballer.
For what it's worth, I like Timber as a potential signing because he is a fantastic footballer, and I want him as our RB, but aerial dominance and presence at setpieces should be a prerequisite for a Premier League centerback, and if you sign one who is neither, then you have already made a transfer mistake whether the manager is able to make it work or not.
His agency posted the picture so might be just them going to negotiate.
You would think Cannavaro, Puyol, Baresi, Beckenbauer etc didn't exist judging by reading this thread. 
Not sure if a face to face negotiation is necessary as it can be done virtually online and phone calls till all parties agree. I get your point though. I was more on the player flying in to sign the actual contract
That makes sense but I just want to keep the dream aliveNot sure if a face to face negotiation is necessary as it can be done virtually online and phone calls till all parties agree. I get your point though. I was more on the player flying in to sign the actual contract
You're going back decades, to different leagues to find exceptions.You would think Cannavaro, Puyol, Baresi, Beckenbauer etc didn't exist judging by reading this thread.
It's also worth noting some players may be far far better in the air than their height would suggest, which I can't say applies to Timber given he's bottom 9th percentile in the Dutch league for centre backs.
Again, how many current premier league sides start with a 5'10 centre backs consistently? And in a back 4? And do so with a lot of success that it's not an issue? Someone ought to tell the current premier league managers that Puyol wasn't that tall so they should start signing short centre backs. Is Klopp crazy too because he targets aerially dominant centre backs?
the only recent shorter CB in the Prem I can think off is Nathan Ake. No clue how he has done for City but I thought he was a decent to pretty good defender at Bournemouth. assuming we do get Timber it would be nice if he was taller but he can make up for the lack of height by good positioning and effort in defending. Pretty sure we've been one of the taller teams the last few years and don't really utilize it defending or attacking.
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To be fair Phil Jones is under 6ft tall.
No chance. Some heights on Google are nonsense. Shaw is often listed as 6'1 and Jones towers over him.
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There's plenty of defenders in the PL < 6ft that do just fine - Ben Mee, Ben Davies, Cesar Azpilicueta, Marcal, Malang Sarr, Ake, Guehi. Sure, some play in a back 3, but point is looking at height isn't really the best gauge. There are plenty of occasions when Burnley of all teams have started 3 of a back 4 under 6ft. Especially if we're looking to play a higher line and focus on possession in the opposing team's half, I would think that a player that is comfortable on the ball, has rapid recovery pace and can defend large areas of space is a much more important area for us to address, as we really lack a player with all of those attributes.
With respect, nobody is just looking at height. The height wouldn't matter if he was even on a par with the average defender as the likes of other small centre backs such as Phil Jones can. Jones wins roughly 70% of the headers he competes for. Last year, Maguire was winning 78%. None of the players you named are losing headers more than 40% of the time. Timber is at 50% which is in the bottom 8% of defenders across top five leagues. This is why people have concerns.
Which one you prefer, signing young player that still has room to improve and develop but great potential with cheap fees? Or the holywood signings that cost double or triple fees?
It may not apply to you necessarily, but there does seem to be quite a number of posters in this thread dismissing him on height alone. Either way Who Scored has Timber as winning 58% of aerial duels, which isn't fantastic by any means, but by comparison Ben Mee is only at 61%. Lindelof is at 60%, so basically you could call them even, but Timber's recovery pace and aggression provides a whole new dimension that Lindelof doesn't provide. So long as he's paired w/ a partner that is good in the air, I don't see any reason why his aerial ability would be a huge worry.
Yes, but you have to factor in the league they play in. The PL is way more physical that the Eredevise.
The amount of pages spent arguing over his height is wild.
His heading isn't a strength. Obviously. Blind did pretty well as a CB here next to Smalling and formed our best partnership post Sir Alex despite being useless in the air. It's fine. Timber will regardless be used as a RB if he signs anyway for the first bit, where he'd be an enormous improvement (and in the air he would be an improvement out there), and then he'll transition inside in time if he's capable. It's fine. His potential and talent all around along with filling an immediate need and being depth at CB in the mean time is more than fine.
His heading isn't a strength. Obviously. Blind did pretty well as a CB here next to Smalling and formed our best partnership post Sir Alex despite being useless in the air. It's fine. Timber will regardless be used as a RB if he signs anyway for the first bit, where he'd be an enormous improvement (and in the air he would be an improvement out there), and then he'll transition inside in time if he's capable. It's fine. His potential and talent all around along with filling an immediate need and being depth at CB in the mean time is more than fine.
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