Murder on Zidane's Floor
You'd better not kill Giroud
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It's in their DNA as a club.
dohWell, considering they made “plusvalenze” with a good number of Serie A teams in that saving their ar*e, aka the same eight clubs who were deemed not guilty yesterday… so Juventus were the disloyal pepetrators of injecting liquidity in half Serie A pockets during Covid, while FIGC wrested penalties and VARs to have Inter, Milan and now Napoli to win the league in order to sell the product abroad. Great, great business! Good luck for the future.
It's not like Spain or England is any different. Italy actually once relegated Juve and deducted points from AC Milan.I want to run a club in Italy. You can cheat as much as you want and get away with it. It’s amazing.
I want to run a club in Italy. You can cheat as much as you want and get away with it. It’s amazing.
I would argue the league as a whole never really recovered.Transfer ban, stripping any titles and a heavy fine is better to punishment. Need them in Europe to bring money into the league. Docking Milan point and relegate Juventus in last scandal affected the league so negatively the last time.
Why?You can't take away points from a team if that there is even a possibility of the points being restored in the same season. It's that simple. What a joke Serie A has become now in a season where the league actually have showed up very good in Europe.
Isn't it because it was basically a swap deal and they inflated the values for thr purposes of getting around financial rules, I don't think that's similar to us buying AntonyRight decision.
I don't get why if Ajax sell to Manchester United a one-trick pony for an absurd amount of money as €100m, for everyone it's normal because "Premier League teams are rich" so everything is fine, every single Bohely's Chelsea transfer is fine. If Juventus sell Pjanic to Barcelona for €60m it's a scandal and they're cheating.
The value of a football player cannot be determined with mathematical formulas. In the football market everything is about "supply and demand" and players are just club assets
It changes the table in the league in the ending of the season when teams are fighting for their standings in the league-table so this penalty affects all other teams while it was aimed for just one of the teams.Why?
If the punishment is subject to appeal there is a possibility the penalty could be delayed or repealed pending the completion of the appeal.
And Serie A is only a joke to those who've always considered it a joke in recent years. No one serious looks at this and goes, "ah there's my interest shot"
But the point made by poster is still valid , transfer fees as things stand is exclusive domain of clubs making the deals there is no formula that can be applied to assign a number .Isn't it because it was basically a swap deal and they inflated the values for thr purposes of getting around financial rules, I don't think that's similar to us buying Antony
Right, but rather than registering it as a swap they had both players sold for 60m for the purposes of having it amortised. I don't know, but there must be rules against this sort of thingBut the point made by poster is still valid , transfer fees as things stand is exclusive domain of clubs making the deals there is no formula that can be applied to assign a number .
You can't keep a punishment that is no longer valid on the books just because other teams may be impacted.It changes the table in the league in the ending of the season when teams are fighting for their standings in the league-table so this penalty affects all other teams while it was aimed for just one of the teams.
And Barca.This will be the way City's punishment will go
This is why this way of penalty was idiotic from the beginning. The penalty should be designed so it can't change the league-table and affect all the other teams in the league during on-going season.You can't keep a punishment that is no longer valid on the books just because other teams may be impacted.
Again it's the Clubs prerogative how they want to proceed with the players registration , even if its for the purpose of FFP you simply can't appropriate players valuations because then every player transfer fee could be questioned .Right, but rather than registering it as a swap they had both players sold for 60m for the purposes of having it amortised. I don't know, but there must be rules against this sort of thing
I agree. Imagine this impacted the relegation race in 1 way or another.This is why this way of penalty was idiotic from the beginning. The penalty should be designed so it can't change the league-table and affect all the other teams in the league during on-going season.
Don’t worry though, it’s all ‘hollow’, none of it matters or something…This will be the way City's punishment will go
I somehow hope that Mussolini will be used as an argument.Considering the individuals involved(Allegri, Paratici, etc) were all confirmed guilty, i think it's likely juventus will as well. So we'll see.
Court has 15 days to explain their reasons, then we'll know more
OK but didn't the clubs value the players the same, but instead of it being a swap they each purchased the other player for 60m with the fee spread over multiple years for cost, but registering as 60m income for the season to fudge the books. It's got nothing to do with appropriating values, they valued two players the exact same, but instead of putting it through as a swap as they should have, they each registered it as a saleAgain it's the Clubs prerogative how they want to proceed with the players registration , even if its for the purpose of FFP you simply can't appropriate players valuations because then every player transfer fee could be questioned .
Not sure how this works, but if (when) one of Juventus or Roma win the Europa League, will the Serie A get another CL slot next season?So as we speak both Milan teams aren't qualified for the CL next season. It's gonna be between them and Roma for the last qualifying place.