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I thought it was Kevin Phillips for a second. Would take him in his prime right now.
 

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I’d say he’s currently better than Matic from an athletic perspective. Like to tackle and run.
 

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I’d say he’s currently better than Matic from an athletic perspective. Like to tackle and run.
I'd suggest if being more athletic than Matic (at this point in his career) is our criteria, we're casting a very wide net. :D
 

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He's just signed a new contract hasn't he?
Do contracts matter that much anymore. Sometimes clubs even extend it to make sure they get maximum value when they sell. We extended Evra's contract and sold him a month later.
 

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Surprised were targeting an English player.
Because they bought 2 English players in the summer?

If the lad has been scouted and they think he’s good enough it doesn’t really matter what nationality he is. In fact if anything being a native speaker only helps him settle quicker
 

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My mate is a Leeds fan, watches them every week. He’s says Phillips is their best player and is surprised no one from the Premier League has taken him.

We need to be more ambitious than this though. 2 potential signings from the Championship, no elite club would do that on the hope of winning the top division.
 

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My mate is a Leeds fan, watches them every week. He’s says Phillips is their best player and is surprised no one from the Premier League has taken him.

We need to be more ambitious than this though. 2 potential signings from the Championship, no elite club would do that on the hope of winning the top division.
Harry Maguire, Andy Robertson, James Maddison and many others played in the Championship.

This is when we should be buying them, not a transfer later when their price has went through the roof.
 

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My mate is a Leeds fan, watches them every week. He’s says Phillips is their best player and is surprised no one from the Premier League has taken him.

We need to be more ambitious than this though. 2 potential signings from the Championship, no elite club would do that on the hope of winning the top division.
The level of Championship is on par with many national leagues. And last year's top players are performing really well in EPL.: James, Mcginn,Grealish, Abrahams just to name a few.
So if we go for the right player,as we did with James, I think he ll be a success here.
Moreover as someone else said, there are less issues with acclimatisation.
 

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He's good but not amazing. Definitely a favourite with Leeds fans for much the same reasons Herrera was with United. He works super hard, excellent defensively and is dirty and good at winding up the opposition in a way that is lovable when it's one of your players but detestable when it's an opponent. For a defensive midfielder in the Championship he is very good on the ball, less so when compared with elite DMs at big clubs.

I wouldn't be massively against this signing but I think we could do better. Unlike a lot of gems in the Championship he wouldn't be cheap. Leeds have already rejected several decent offers for him and he just signed a new contract so there is no bargain to be had like there was with James or there currently is with Bowen.
 

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The only way this transfer would happen would be either if we put on a huge bid or else Leeds miss promotion again.
I see it highly unlikely considering Leeds are favourites to go up.
 

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Watched a 10 minute video of him on YouTube and I'm sold.

5'10 but got a cracking leap on him, looks strong as an ox and quick too, seems like he's got a good reading of the game and racks up interceptions, similar style of tackling to Wan-Bissaka as in he just gets to the ball first and takes it off you and to top it all off he's got a pinpoint long pass on him. Would do brilliantly at the base of our midfield as a possession recycler and distributor.

The kind of player every other club, big or small, has but we don't. I'd take him in Jan if we could.

The level of Championship is on par with many national leagues. And last year's top players are performing really well in EPL.: James, Mcginn,Grealish, Abrahams just to name a few.
So if we go for the right player,as we did with James, I think he ll be a success here.
Moreover as someone else said, there are less issues with acclimatisation.
This hasn't always been the case but now more than ever this is so true. The Championship is a long, hard season where you play a hell of a lot of, usually physical, football but now more than ever they've got good teams who play good football under good managers. Perfect place for us to recruit the next generation of undiscovered talent rather than paying double for some teenager from the other side of the world with a fancy name.

Saying that, I'd drop 100m on Kai Havertz in an instant so swings and roundabouts ey?
 

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Do contracts matter that much anymore. Sometimes clubs even extend it to make sure they get maximum value when they sell. We extended Evra's contract and sold him a month later.
Well they add value on someone, say we buy Phillips for £30m but he was available in summer for £15-20m, people would berate Woodward for not getting him for cheaper.

Also, using Evra was a bad example, he'd told us he didn't want his contract extending but Woodward went ahead and did it anyway, that's how they ended up falling out.
 

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It is not like he has suddenly become a good player. Signing him now for £30m-£40m would be typical of this club, when we could have signed him during the summer for half the price.

Not a world beater but knows how to play out of defence. Can pass short and long. Good defensively and can run.
 

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It is not like he has suddenly become a good player. Signing him now for £30m-£40m would be typical of this club, when we could have signed him during the summer for half the price.

Not a world beater but knows how to play out of defence. Can pass short and long. Good defensively and can run.
A cheaper version of Ndidi?
 

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Perfect signing. Value in the market.

Not a perfect player. Could do with improving his pass success rate; nor is he hard to dribble past (a bit like Fred in that respect). Yet no player is perfect. His contract runs to June 2024 (extended 2 months ago). We are a little bit late here!

He's better than Emre Can; certainly more mobile. More experienced than Tonali (better able to handle PL). Cheaper than almost everyone else. Excellent replacement for Hererra, but 5 months late. I don't think we'll play him as a defensive midfielder, more a box-to-box. Plus - we are light in midfield anyway.
 
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It is not like he has suddenly become a good player. Signing him now for £30m-£40m would be typical of this club, when we could have signed him during the summer for half the price.

Not a world beater but knows how to play out of defence. Can pass short and long. Good defensively and can run.

Leeds turned down 27m from Spurs in the summer
 

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We do need two DMs, first team and backup, so this is a good buy for the backup position.
 

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Leeds turned down 27m from Spurs in the summer
£27m is nearly double what a Championship side have payed for a player. Villa's squad improvements this summer were mostly about the £10m mark. Leeds really must consider whether one player in their side is worth that as much as £30m, when they can do a Villa and make 3 improvements with the same cash in hand.
 

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Maybe good but he kicked on as soon as Bielsa was coaching him in a very particular style. United is obviously a massive move, but a step back in terms of being coached. Would he be able to cut it?
 

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Leeds rejected all offers in the summer, as Bielsa sees him a a key player, and the club didn't want to sell against the managers wish.
But things might change, and money talks..
 

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Leeds turned down 27m from Spurs in the summer
Didn't know that. Then I reckon we have to pay £50m for him now. Only read the rumours linking him to all the bottom teams, not Tottenham.

I watched a number of Leeds games during the beginning of the last season and it was obvious that he was good enough for EPL. If the MUFC scouts did not take notice of him before this season they must be effing blind.
 

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Sorry but can’t see Philips leaving for United, especially with interest from other Premier League clubs and the fact he’s from Leeds born and bred
 

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Do contracts matter that much anymore. Sometimes clubs even extend it to make sure they get maximum value when they sell. We extended Evra's contract and sold him a month later.
We extended Jones, and Rojo contracts also, and still can't sell them.
 

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£27m is nearly double what a Championship side have payed for a player. Villa's squad improvements this summer were mostly about the £10m mark. Leeds really must consider whether one player in their side is worth that as much as £30m, when they can do a Villa and make 3 improvements with the same cash in hand.
They rejected it because he was a key player and the manager would have left otherwise

Its not always about money

Also Dan James cost 18m so its not relevant what Villa paid for additions. Villa also rejected a decent fee for Jack Grealish
 

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We extended Jones, and Rojo contracts also, and still can't sell them.
There is a deference in extending contracts for players that are attracting attention of other clubs and extending those of duds. Smallings contract is from last year, he has left on loan and there is already talk of Roma wanting to make the move permanent
 

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Wasn’t Alan Smith Leeds born and bred?
I’d say those circumstances are different though. Leeds could get up this season, United are shit and the squads in disarray. I think the appeal of abandoning your boyhood club for a bitter rival is a bit higher when Sir Alex Ferguson is still at his peak with a selection of world class talent at his disposal.

I’m saying this as he has other options, too. He’ll go to Spurs or someone.
 

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Well they add value on someone, say we buy Phillips for £30m but he was available in summer for £15-20m, people would berate Woodward for not getting him for cheaper.

Also, using Evra was a bad example, he'd told us he didn't want his contract extending but Woodward went ahead and did it anyway, that's how they ended up falling out.
You are repeating what I said about the contracts adding value. Evra was always going to leave buying triggering his extend we got whatever small amount we sold him for. He could have walked on a free
 

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Sack the whole transfer committee... enough with the overpriced English players. We are acting like England are the best national team in world football.
 

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There is a deference in extending contracts for players that are attracting attention of other clubs and extending those of duds. Smallings contract is from last year, he has left on loan and there is already talk of Roma wanting to make the move permanent
I never mentioned Smalling, mate.
 

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We were linked with him lots last summer but Leeds wanted 25m and we weren't up for that.

I hadn't seen much of him but seen a bit this season and he's certainly decent in possession and can take a good set piece. @Yagami will tell you more though.

He's a Leeds boy though and think it will be similar to Grealish in that he'll give Leeds one more season to get up and then move in the summer if it dosen't happen. Can't see him leaving in January.
 

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We were linked with him lots last summer but Leeds wanted 25m and we weren't up for that.

I hadn't seen much of him but seen a bit this season and he's certainly decent in possession and can take a good set piece. @Yagami will tell you more though.

He's a Leeds boy though and think it will be similar to Grealish in that he'll give Leeds one more season to get up and then move in the summer if it dosen't happen. Can't see him leaving in January.
Ha, I can't say that much. I've only seen Leeds a bit and whilst I reckon he'd a decent PL level midfielder, I think that's all he'll be.

Honestly, I wouldn't want him, but considering our options I don't think I'd say no either! Especially if it's in January as we need someone ASAP.
 

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A cheaper version of Ndidi?
Ndidi is more of a destroyer than Phillips, but it should be said that Ndidi has improved his abilities on the ball under Rodgers.
Personally I think Phillips game is really good in most areas. His main area of improvement is the attacking part of his game, and when playing in the final third.