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Mané is far better than Giggs tbh.
Mané is far better than Giggs tbh.
How old are you?I do remember early Giggs. As I have said repeatedly, that was the best Giggs. Current Mané is a better player. Balloon level good. We’ve won the CL twice in Giggs’ career, and the PL multiple times. He had every opportunity to be recognised as that guy, but he just wasn’t that guy. Very good player, but was never amongst the best few players in the world. And not very often amongst the best very few in the PL, and he hung around for more than long enough to be at some point, beyond his first few years before other teams started catching up.
No, what's ridiculous is you saying Mane is better than Giggs. I can name a lot of players who over the years had a better season than Giggs in 99. But that does not make them a better player.What a ridiculously skewed metric.
This freak as a left inside forward today would be ridiculous. He would eat these fubacks aliveThis is 90s Giggs
Mane scored in the super cup? Keane meant big games , not charity matches.Carragher was making the decision based on one season. Mane had a better season.
Roy's argument was that Giggs scored more important goals even though it was only 3 goals/2 assists and another factor was loyalty (which shouldn't even be used as it should be an objective decision)
For the first one, Mane scored two goals against Chelsea in the Super Cup to win it. Also, Mane has scored 5 winners already this season already in the league. He won Liverpool 10 points alone this season.
If it's strictly 99 Manutd team vs 2020 Liverpool team then Yorke should make the team who scored 29 goals and 20 assists that season.I’m glad I watched the clip before responding or I’d be hopping mad too at any united fan choosing Mane over Giggs. After seeing the choice was strictly 99 Giggs or today’s Mane in his current form it makes sense, Mane is the right choice. Of course if you’re looking at overall contribution Giggs will win this now and I’m certain we’ll say the same 10 years from now.
Giggs would be unreal in a different way.He wasn’t the finisher Salah was, more a creator, it’s unreal to think he would score 31 goals in the league and be top scorer.This freak as a left inside forward today would be ridiculous. He would eat these fubacks alive
If people think Salah scores many in that pool side Giggs would be unreal
Absolutely ridiculous comment. Mane is nowhere near Giggs.Mané is far better than Giggs tbh.
This place is hilarious at timesMané is far better than Giggs tbh.
That can be debated, yes. But the outrage is over posters claiming Mane is a better player than Giggs ever was.What Carragher said isn’t a big deal it was based off one season and Giggs wasn’t anything special in 98/99, he scored 4 goals all season.
The go to players were Beckham and Keane, York’s has a great season also.
He isn’t career wise.Absolutely ridiculous comment. Mane is nowhere near Giggs.
That’s more Salahs role not Mane, Mane’s role is one of a ball carrier also.Giggs played a completely different role to Mane.
Giggs was primarily a creator and a ball carrier. Mane's job is stand up the field, break the offside trap and score.
You're telling me a young Giggs couldn't have done that? if he was 18 now he'd be considered one of the best inside forwards in the game
Well the outrage is unjust, he said Manes peak is a higher level than anything but a young Giggs attained, this is true, Ginola and Pires both came to the league and arguably had better peak seasons than Giggs from the time they entered to the time he retired.That can be debated, yes. But the outrage is over posters claiming Mane is a better player than Giggs ever was.
Absolute rubbish. The revisionism of Giggs' career on this forum is astounding.Well the outrage is unjust, he said Manes peak is a higher level than anything but a young Giggs attained, this is true, Ginola and Pires both came to the league and arguably had better peak seasons than Giggs from the time they entered to the time he retired.
I've just caught up with this debate (very funny from Keano by the way) and I agree, if we're talking about United '99 v Liverpool '20 I'd have Mane in the team too, even at the cost of Giggs on the left, as I don't see how you could leave him out. But obviously I prefer Giggs over his illustrious career than what Mane's done so far.What Carragher said isn’t a big deal it was based off one season and Giggs wasn’t anything special in 98/99, he scored 4 goals all season.
The go to players were Beckham and Keane, York’s has a great season also.
Oh for feck sakes.Mané is far better than Giggs tbh.
What part do you think is rubbish? The Ginola part might be actually Giggs has definitely had better seasons than his PFA winning one, but at the same time he hasn’t had a season where you could say he was top 5 players in the world imo, Keane and Beckham both have coming 2nd and 4th in Ballon d’or rankings, Giggs especially after his major injuries certainly hasn’t IMO.Absolute rubbish. The revisionism of Giggs' career on this forum is astounding.
And what is this peak season rubbish I keep reading? Giggs on his best day is comfortably better than all of those players on theirs.
A lot of teenagers were compared to x or y in football. If you have to go back to a player’s teenage years to find when he was compared to Best, a player who played for another 20+ years - chances are he didn’t deliver on that promise. Otherwise he’d beI know fans have short memories, but this is a different level. Giggs in his teens/early 20's was so good that he was seriously compared to George Best.
34How old are you?
It’s not about 99. If you are saying ‘Mané was better than Giggs in 99, but Giggs was better in ‘x’ years’, then let’s hear those years. Adding up a little bit of 20 different years to make one better player renders the comparison pointless. Mané obviously hasn’t played at the top for 20 years. He’s fecking 26 or whatever. And playing at the top for 20 years is not the metric used to judge top players. Many players better than Giggs didn’t play until 40.No, what's ridiculous is you saying Mane is better than Giggs. I can name a lot of players who over the years had a better season than Giggs in 99. But that does not make them a better player.
Giggs played in teams mainly 4-4-2. His job was to create not to score.
You ignoring my future posts will make me very happy.Mane better than Giggs amazing how one simple opinion can make every single future post by someone totally meaningless. Must be a wum, and a bloody good one, I'm seething!
What Giggs is he nowhere near? Which version? Or you mean ‘if you add up all the best bits over 20 years and put them together, Mané can’t reach that?Absolutely ridiculous comment. Mane is nowhere near Giggs.
he'd have been absolutely devastating in the inside forward roleGiggs played a completely different role to Mane.
Giggs was primarily a creator and a ball carrier. Mane's job is stand up the field, break the offside trap and score.
You're telling me a young Giggs couldn't have done that? if he was 18 now he'd be considered one of the best inside forwards in the game
He'd have been insane. His pace, agility and dribbling would have made him very difficult to stop. Not to mention he had a real crack of a shot too.he'd have been absolutely devastating in the inside forward role
would have loved to have seen that
I never said he would be. I said he would be unrealGiggs would be unreal in a different way.He wasn’t the finisher Salah was, more a creator, it’s unreal to think he would score 31 goals in the league and be top scorer.
Becks was an assist machine that season, to say Mane is better than Becks is ridiculous.Mane is not as good as Giggs but better than Beckham, so he does make a combined XI, but on the right.
VVD was a Lionel Messi away from winning the Ballon D’Or so he makes it in automatically.
Salah is a better player than Yorke ever was.
Those three would make a combined XI for sure.
Trent vs Neville is debatable.
Neither Ronaldinho or Kaka for example played at the top for 10 let alone 20 years, it’s not favourable to a lot of African and South American players who don’t even arrive in Europe till their early or mid 20’s.'And playing at the top for 20 years is not the metric used to judge top players.'
Maybe it should be? Call it 10 though. 20 is freak.
Pretty much all of it, mate.What part do you think is rubbish? The Ginola part might be actually Giggs has definitely had better seasons than his PFA winning one, but at the same time he hasn’t had a season where you could say he was top 5 players in the world imo, Keane and Beckham both have coming 2nd and 4th in Ballon d’or rankings, Giggs especially after his major injuries certainly hasn’t IMO.
Sorry yeah I just edited. Don't think the argument works as you can only really do it after they've retired.Neither Ronaldinho or Kaka for example played at the top for 10 let alone 20 years, it’s not favourable to a lot of African and South American players who don’t even arrive in Europe till their early or mid 20’s.