Kevin De Bruyne

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DeBruyne didn't come to City until 2015.
:rolleyes: Well you can count from 2015 onwards then, until Augero/D.Silva no longer at their peak.

De Bruyne is still not undisputed better player than any of them.
 

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You are perhaps also reading too much into it - the fact that Beckham might've had a higher peak year in 1999 (and voting was undoubtedly skewed because his team won the treble) doesn't mean that he was a better footballer than De Bruyne or had a better career.

Not saying he was worse either by the way. I was too young when he had his peak at United.
Do you have any idea what my post is actually referring to? You just jump into the middle of another conversion. Its nothing about what you saying here.
 

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Do you have any idea what my post is actually referring to? You just jump into the middle of another conversion. Its nothing about what you saying here.
You wanted to prove that people outside the Caf rated Beckham higher than KDB. But the fact that he once ended second in Ballon d'Or voting while de KDB hasn't cracked the top 5 yet doesn't prove that "people in general" rate Beckham higher than KDB at all - merely that he had a better individual season at one point (and, like I said, undoubtedly aided in voting by the fact his team won the treble).

Basically you wanted to prove something but used the wrong argument for me, fine if you disagree.
 

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You wanted to prove that people outside the Caf rated Beckham higher than KDB. But the fact that he once ended second in Ballon d'Or voting while de KDB hasn't cracked the top 5 yet doesn't prove that "people in general" rate Beckham higher than KDB at all - merely that he had a better individual season at one point (and, like I said, undoubtedly aided in voting by the fact his team won the treble).

Basically you wanted to prove something but used the wrong argument for me, fine if you disagree.
Not exactly. I never said "people in general" - you misinterpreted it.

All I have to do is to show there's "other place outside Cafe" which rate Beckham higher to prove his claim wrong. Truth is, there are people "outside Cafe" who rate Beckham as the 2nd best player in the world on 2 different occasions, whereas De Bruyne only got to 8th and 9th place in his best years up to dated. Thats all I need to do to prove his claim wrong. I never even need to prove which player is better to most.
 

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Not exactly. I never said "people in general" - you misinterpreted it.

All I have to do is to show there's "other place outside Cafe" which rate Beckham higher to prove his claim wrong. Truth is, there are people "outside Cafe" who rate Beckham as the 2nd best player in the world on 2 different occasions, whereas De Bruyne only got to 8th and 9th place in his best years up to dated. Thats all I need to do to prove his claim wrong. I never even need to prove which player is better to most.
The fact that he ended 2nd a few times doesn't mean that the people voting back then rate Beckham higher than KDB right now. Not at all. Like I said, you use the wrong argument to try and disprove his claim.
 

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The fact that he ended 2nd a few times doesn't mean that the people voting back then rate Beckham higher than KDB right now. Not at all. Like I said, you use the wrong argument to try and disprove his claim.
Yeh, like 8th and 9th place over past 2-3 years is better than 2nd place in 1999 and 2001. Of course it makes perfect sense.
 

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Yeh, like 8th and 9th place over past 2-3 years is better than 2nd place in 1999 and 2001. Of course it makes perfect sense.
I think the point is that they might also rate a lot of the players who finished ahead of KDB in those years ahead of Beckham as well. You're comparing where they finished among different sets of players, not where they finished relative to each other.
 

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De Bruyne has had an odd season, plenty of games(especially in the first half of the season) were he looked a bit pedestrian and non-threatening to plenty of games when he has been superb. A bit like post prime Yaya who could was still more than capable of being the best player on the pitch against anyone but also of really struggling.

De Bruyne's raw numbers are outstanding this year but my impression is that in general play he has not been quite as good as some of his previous seasons, am I wrong?
 

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Do we know if LVG did actually turn down the chance to sign Debryne when he was at Wolfsburg?

If that is true then its crazy that we could have had toni kroos and debryne in the same midfield.
 

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De Bruyne has had an odd season, plenty of games(especially in the first half of the season) were he looked a bit pedestrian and non-threatening to plenty of games when he has been superb. A bit like post prime Yaya who could was still more than capable of being the best player on the pitch against anyone but also of really struggling.

De Bruyne's raw numbers are outstanding this year but my impression is that in general play he has not been quite as good as some of his previous seasons, am I wrong?
I think your right

Is this due to lack of striker?

You don't have de bryune and not let him set up a striker.

I felt for example when Gabriel Jesus came back in to the first XI that De Bryune started performing an extra level up aswell.
 

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Won the challenge on the edge of the box and played inch perfect pass to assist Title Winning goal.
 

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That challenge and assist is what makes him POTY, he was not at the races today but still produced when it mattered.
 
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Roy Keane wouldn’t be having that, lad would’ve been kicked right there and then with Keane standing over him when he’s down and calmly saying “take that you cnut”.
Exactly :lol:
 

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I can’t hack those “freestyle” lads anyway. A load of skill with the ball that takes them nowhere and then booting it though his legs at 60km/h and he’s delighted with himself.
 

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I can’t hack those “freestyle” lads anyway. A load of skill with the ball that takes them nowhere and then booting it though his legs at 60km/h and he’s delighted with himself.
Yeah, they always annoy the shit out of me too.
 

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I can’t hack those “freestyle” lads anyway. A load of skill with the ball that takes them nowhere and then booting it though his legs at 60km/h and he’s delighted with himself.
Yeah, they always annoy the shit out of me too.
fecking hell lads, you two must be great at parties!