Klopp's ex Assistant for 17 years: "I did the job of a manager, except speaking in public and giving interviews"

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Every assistant has an elevated view of themselves and their contributions. Didn't Rene say something similar about his time as first team coach at United?

(Disclaimer: I have not yet gotten around to reading the article)
 

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Most managers do that I believe. They leave the entire coaching of the team to their assistants while focusing on the actual tactics and stuff.
 

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I wanted to invest a lot into this. But they won everything after he left. He probably felt under appreciated so his ego goes on a tangent.

I'd like it to be true, but it doesn't appear to have had any effect. Not like Faria departing from Jose, say.
 

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I remember the celebratory like atmosphere when he was announced to be leaving, because of just how key he apparently was :lol: they've been brilliant ever since.
 

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Since he's left we've won the Champions League and Premier League.
 

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There might be something to it. The successful team was pretty much the one that was playing when he was there.

Now they need to change players and tactics it’s more difficult.

Also, it might be bullshit.
 

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Clearly true

Klopps probably blackmailing his family or something and this guy is still pulling the strings. Would definitely fit with Klopps behaviour
 

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To be fair, Klopp has done just fine since he left but at this present moment his team needs freshening up after the years of success or it faces stagnation and being overtaken by other teams.

Its been more like Brian Kidd leaving Sir Alex Ferguson rather than Peter Taylor leaving Brian Clough
 

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This guy should join Arteta, they would be an unstoppable force. The masterminds behind Joergen and Pep.
 

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Their success came after he left.

Some said Rui Faria departure was one of biggest reasons we were so bad in Jose's 3rd season but reality is he had even worse third season at Chelsea and Faria was there.
 

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Expected a juicy article and got nothing.

Seems bitter and feels he did the job of a manager, as I am sure most AMs do, but that's it - never says anything like what the article suggests.
 

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I remember when he was leaving, there were loud noises about him taking the Arsenal job... but in the end it went to Unai Ebening.
 

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This is the problem with people who are good at executing a vision. They don't realize that it is equally important (if not more important) to have the vision in the first place. With managers like Klopp, having the vision of how he wants his teams to play is far more critical to long term success than match tactics, training, and in-game management.
 

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This is the problem with people who are good at executing a vision. They don't realize that it is equally important (if not more important) to have the vision in the first place. With managers like Klopp, having the vision of how he wants his teams to play is far more critical to long term success than match tactics, training, and in-game management.
Not really. Without the proper training it's just a nice thing in his mind. I mean, a poster on the Caf can have a coherent beautiful vision of how a team can play. Implementation is equally fundamental and that's where Pep has excelled.
 

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Was ready to 100% support him and bash Klopp, but yeah he just sounds bitter and after a job. The Barcelona one apparently :lol:must have been drinking that scouse water.
 

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Every assistant has an elevated view of themselves and their contributions. Didn't Rene say something similar about his time as first team coach at United?

(Disclaimer: I have not yet gotten around to reading the article)
Often assistant coaches are the tactical brains behind the scenes and the reason they fail making the step up to #1 is the extra responsibility of decision making, club added exposure to club politics, more media responsibility's, having to manage people aswell as players etc.

I could see that being the case with Fergie because wasn't he pretty open about the fact he wasn't a tactics obsessive? Hence bringing the likes of Rene and Quieroz. That probably was Fergie greatess strenth, he knew his strength's and weaknesses and instead of being pig headed and adopting an "i'll work it out" mentality he made sure his staff were filled with people who specialized where he didn't.
 

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Klopp won the Champions League and the Premiership. Falling in a barrel of thumbs and sucking a tit springs to mind if this guy was so important to the cause.
 

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This guy should join Arteta, they would be an unstoppable force. The masterminds behind Joergen and Pep.
:lol:
The only question is who would be the assistant to their joint-managers.
 

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Klopp has done pretty well since Snape left, and he always credited him anyways
Klopp used to refer him as “the brain” and Klopp was “the heart”, it’s not like Klopp stole his thunder or anything.
 

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To be fair, I have heard this claim before from others. But any claim that he deserves credit for Klopp's success kind of falls down when you see Klopp continuing to be successful without him.
 

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Often assistant coaches are the tactical brains behind the scenes and the reason they fail making the step up to #1 is the extra responsibility of decision making, club added exposure to club politics, more media responsibility's, having to manage people aswell as players etc.

I could see that being the case with Fergie because wasn't he pretty open about the fact he wasn't a tactics obsessive? Hence bringing the likes of Rene and Quieroz. That probably was Fergie greatess strenth, he knew his strength's and weaknesses and instead of being pig headed and adopting an "i'll work it out" mentality he made sure his staff were filled with people who specialized where he didn't.
I think that's one of Klopp's greatest strengths as well. He surrounds himself with world class people in areas that aren't his strengths and uses their expertise effectively. He's had Krawietz and Buvac with him since the start of his managerial career, and Pep Lijnders had more or less morphed into the role Buvac left before Buvac even left. All of them have helped him develop the tactics and design the training methods needed to implement them. He follows the advice of experts rather than stick with his own ideas all the time, like when the recruitment team convinced him to focus on getting Mane instead of Gotze and Wijnaldum instead of Dahoud or Pielinzki in his first big transfer window, and Salah instead of Brandt the next year. He's also brought in top class people for stuff like nutrition, fitness management, youth development, even a psychiatrist and a specialist throw-in coach, all to gain small edges here and there with specialist expertise he lacks.
 

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Professor Snape getting more and more vindicated by the day.
Apart from us actually winning the two major trophies on offer after he left. We won nothing whilst Severus was sitting in the dug out. We won a Premier League and a Champions League after he left.

Nothing story.
 

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Apart from us actually winning the two major trophies on offer after he left. We won nothing whilst Severus was sitting in the dug out. We won a Premier League and a Champions League after he left.

Nothing story.
That much is true, although a cursory search on RAWK will tell you that fans thought the football was better, more intense and more fluid under Severus' influence. You can't underestimate the residual effect of his stamp on the club contributing to what became of them post-exit.