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2025-26 Performances


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19
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0
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3
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Fulham best and clear chance until final of quarter of 30 minute is the first half corner sequence which led to one vs one against Lammens.

The main tactic difference is what I described in my last post. We were so comfortable with the lead which was not the case in the previous two games, so going in second half pressing is optional.

The Fulham chance around 80th, our defense communicated to the front line to drop instead of pressing, this led to us making the pitch large by our own choice thus made us easy to play through. It’s not a depth issue. that is personnel preference from the like of Maguire aka personnel issue. Starter CBs at former high pressing teams don’t get subbed unless for injuries or disastrous performance. The whole CB for CB sub nonsense is an Amorim special. You don’t need CB depth so to sub them to play full 90 minute of high press if you have the right personnel. The last second decision to switch from pressing high from a goal kick to drop and leave big space between the lines in a well drilled team is rare. Here our issue is the defenders prefer a difference approach which creates issue with the plan seeing game out. You can have prime Kante, but when the defenders decide to switch things up this way, you still can’t stop Fulham to progress the ball.


Bruno asked the back line to push up, but they refused. This was before the actually goal kick occurred. The ball was being returned to Leno.


Couple seconds before Leno made the short goal kick, Bruno was now talking to Sesko to instruct him to drop.


Few seconds later, Fulham progresses up the pitch unchallenged due to the big space created from our deep defensive line.


Classic Maguire moment to prefer to drop deeper and deeper to create one man defensive line because he’s too worried about the space behind rather than trusting the execution of offside trap. This sequence should have been a non story, but the change due to the on field decision of the back line creates an issue.


Now compare to 5 minute earlier, for the Sesko hitting the post chance: we pressed high and forced a turn over. we can see Maguire on Fulham half of the pitch when the ball was headed toward Mainoo. Saying we didn’t press it’s merely a structural issue, tactical instruction from Carrick is wrong.

We were trying to be more positive to get the third goal at 2-0, but were caught between two mind at times. In previous games, a draw could have been good result. We were in one mind in staying compact less adventurous in our high pressing.

Edit: Now for the chance leading to the penalty:

Fulham tried to break away but their attackers were man maked. Sessegnon was being chased down Ugarte. our defensive line had already dropped too deep and created acres of space.


Ugarte managed to press Sessegnon into slow down, thus allowed Sesko, Mainoo arguably Amad to get back and regroup.


The midfielders and right sided attackers trapped and pressed Fulham players. Bruno Mbeumo and Amad ran out of gas and was slacking in tracking back. This gives Fulham number advantage in midfield and good passing option, even after we successfully stopped a quick break.


Sander Berge gets lot of space and time to find and make a good pass in behind for Jimenez targeting Maguire. By the time the pass was played, another same old problem was on display: we’re terrible at organizing offside trap. Shaw all these years has still been very poor at it. Martinez to a lesser extent.

This time, we tried to press in the midblock, but the deep defensive line betrayed the effort. You can’t ask for more from Mainoo. He ran non stop during this part of the sequence. the problem is not tactical instruction either as the example of Sesko chances showed. The problem lies with the defenders’ choice to drop deep out of sync with team. It’s a theme going back to Ole’s last season, Rangnick, ETH first season when playing the high line.

Thanks for a beautiful little analysis and illustration! Better than most sports articles I read. It both makes me understand both what I already agreed with you upon, and also allows for better understanding of some other points as well. Joyful.

I think your main point about the stretching propensities attached to Maguire (and I would add Bruno) is an implicit vulnerability in itself. Bruno tends to want to press high and Maguire tends to want to drop early, and most of the time they stay disciplined and aware (both good and intelligent players with good attitude), but when it becomes hectic, nervy, intense or desperate, it can pose a problem. I would say in this game they yearned for differing approaches, and the half way solution became the worst of both worlds for a fifteen minute spell. Either strategy done whole heartedly could have been sensible choices at 2-0.

I don’t think it completely absolves Mainoo on the second goal. Yes, if Maguire and Licha had stayed on the same level as Dalot and Shaw, it wouldn’t have been a big issue likely, because Licha would have snuffed Berge out in time. But Mainoo needs to learn to see that this is not the situation. They are outnumbered, there is an acre in front of defence, crowding the ball is wrong in that situation, he needs to fall of to cover the space Berge will move into, IMO.

Apart from that situation, I thought Mainoo was one of our best players vs Fulham.
 
He's like a more technical version of Tom Cleverley which has both its positives and negatives.

I can see potential in him; yet at the same time I can see why some people think we should be seeing more on the pitch.

I think Amorim training him has actually made him better in terms of strength, tackling & some more creative passes.

However; my biggest issue is that in a 3 man midfield

1) Mainoo's taking the position of a deep lying playmaker.

2) Casemiro is the destroyer

Mainoo is more like a connecting player than a deep lying playmaker - Mainoo keeps the ball moving through our team almost so we don't lose possession rather than actually dictate our play from deep. Mainoo kind of keeps us in control rather than actually 1

Will a primed Mainoo ever play like Carrick, Pirlo, Scholes, Kroos?

If he can then thats great, if not then which player in the past is he actually similar too?

The main leeway I can give him is that maybe I remember Xavi not performing so well at Barcelona & suddenly it kind of clicked with him under Guardiola's management where he became this connecting player but also with great long passing ability.
 
He's like a more technical version of Tom Cleverley which has both its positives and negatives.

I can see potential in him; yet at the same time I can see why some people think we should be seeing more on the pitch.

I think Amorim training him has actually made him better in terms of strength, tackling & some more creative passes.

However; my biggest issue is that in a 3 man midfield

1) Mainoo's taking the position of a deep lying playmaker.

2) Casemiro is the destroyer

Mainoo is more like a connecting player than a deep lying playmaker - Mainoo keeps the ball moving through our team almost so we don't lose possession rather than actually dictate our play from deep. Mainoo kind of keeps us in control rather than actually 1

Will a primed Mainoo ever play like Carrick, Pirlo, Scholes, Kroos?

If he can then thats great, if not then which player in the past is he actually similar too?

The main leeway I can give him is that maybe I remember Xavi not performing so well at Barcelona & suddenly it kind of clicked with him under Guardiola's management where he became this connecting player but also with great long passing ability.
If I were Mainoo I'll be working everyday on my medium to long range passing, I don't know if it's something you can get so good at to execute in high intensity match scenario but his lack of it is the most obvious limitation. He's never going to be someone who can get up and down the pitch all day, all game.

His progressive ability at the moment depends on being pressed so he can take on his man, it affects our play because opponent aren't so scared of the early passes from deep so they come at us because ultimately dribbling is more limited than passing, it gets worse when Ugarte is his partner cause he has similar limitations hence our worse games tend to be when they're paired.
 
If I were Mainoo I'll be working everyday on my medium to long range passing, I don't know if it's something you can get so good at to execute in high intensity match scenario but his lack of it is the most obvious limitation. He's never going to be someone who can get up and down the pitch all day, all game.

His progressive ability at the moment depends on being pressed so he can take on his man, it affects our play because opponent aren't so scared of the early passes from deep so they come at us because ultimately dribbling is more limited than passing, it gets worse when Ugarte is his partner cause he has similar limitations hence our worse games tend to be when they're paired.
Definitely, if we're going to pair him with Baleba, he simply has to pass more and be more progressive - to his credit, that is improving under Carrick. Certainly against Fulham I thought that was evident.
 
While Saha's actual comments about playing and improving arent wrong, saying no initially when asked if Mainoo should get a new contract is wrong. At the end of this season Mainoo will have 1 year on his deal. So if hes staying then we absolutely need to get him a new deal and not risk losing him for free or on a cheap deal.

He's on 25k and has been a starter at times here and is currently a starter. Even if a new deal tripled his wage and he went to 75k he'd be joint 17th on our wages with Malacia - and thats with Rashford and Sancho to one side because they are on loan
 
While Saha's actual comments about playing and improving arent wrong, saying no initially when asked if Mainoo should get a new contract is wrong. At the end of this season Mainoo will have 1 year on his deal. So if hes staying then we absolutely need to get him a new deal and not risk losing him for free or on a cheap deal.

He's on 25k and has been a starter at times here and is currently a starter. Even if a new deal tripled his wage and he went to 75k he'd be joint 17th on our wages with Malacia - and thats with Rashford and Sancho to one side because they are on loan
If that's what he's after then that's more then fair, issues arise if he's have more though. Think 75-125k in that region doesn't seem unrealistic, Yoro is on similar isn't he?
 
Man Utd 2:0 Tottenham New
Amorim dropping Mainoo must be the biggest crime in recent football history. What a player. Bossed the midfield, i dont think he misplaced a single pass today, was everywhere, calm, elegant, good vision. Loving every minute!
 
People wanted to get rid of this demon because of that bozo. Incredible

one of our own! one of our own
 
Superb today.

Granted we played 10 men, but he’s starting to picking up form and reminds us of his talent.

Once he gets the confidence and works on his long range passing, he can become a very good midfielder
 
MOTM type of performance from him, his compilation video from today will go viral I'm sure
 
So strong and composed on the ball, can't believe some backed Amorim so vigoriously in this case. Nuts/Cnuts.
 
Amorim dropping Mainoo must be the biggest crime in recent football history. What a player. Bossed the midfield, i dont think he misplaced a single pass today, was everywhere, calm, elegant, good vision. Loving every minute!
Then you haven't watched him very well. I think, he played well and his ability on the ball gives us something we haven't used for ages but his passing remains uninspiring. He surely is able to hit passes sideways and with a bit of space also through the lines here and there.
 
So strong and composed on the ball, can't believe some backed Amorim so vigoriously in this case. Nuts/Cnuts.
Could’ve been Ndidi or Gallagher beside Casemiro for the rest of the season. Scary
 
Looked so so classy on the ball today. His best game in this run. MOTM today for me.
 
Then you haven't watched him very well. I think, he played well and his ability on the ball gives us something we haven't used for ages but his passing remains uninspiring. He surely is able to hit passes sideways and with a bit of space also through the lines here and there.

Was watching with some mates out so probably didn’t see everything. But overall felt he was excellent. Hope he only improves going forward. At such a young age, massive talent
 
Credit where it's due, this was his best performance under Carrick, he was moving the ball forward better than usual, and I saw some good defensive work from him too.

A couple of sloppy moments, but the whole team was guilty of that.
 
His composure will only get better. Receiving the knee high balls facing back to the goal needs some improving but we have just our own Iniesta.
 
Then you haven't watched him very well. I think, he played well and his ability on the ball gives us something we haven't used for ages but his passing remains uninspiring. He surely is able to hit passes sideways and with a bit of space also through the lines here and there.

75/80 passes (94%)
4 chances created
10 passes into final third
 
Had a good game, we're using him the correct way now as a "connector", and he's very good at keeping possession but there are still levels to his game we're not seeing. He is very important in how well we the ball through midfield though.
 
Brilliant performance, even before spurs went down to ten he was pulling the strings. Again, thank feck you know who went before we sold him.
Unlike Garnacho there’s a top player in there with the right development and time.
 
Played well again today, we've really missed him this season.
 
Then you haven't watched him very well. I think, he played well and his ability on the ball gives us something we haven't used for ages but his passing remains uninspiring. He surely is able to hit passes sideways and with a bit of space also through the lines here and there.

75/80 passes (94%)
4 chances created
10 passes into final third

Oooff
 
His best performance since his return into the team. We were a bit open in the middle before the red card but even then he was individually impressive. After that he was untouchable, he also has the perfect skillset for this scenario.
 
Did what he needed to do again, a few misplaced passed but overall a solid display and looked like he had energy in his legs still at the end which is a massive plus.

I hope he keeps just putting in these types of performances till the end of the season, keeps improving his forward passes and learns to control the tempo from Casemiro.
 
He’s a great player. Connects and links up the play very well. Can be a bit sloppy at times, but he’s still young.