Kobbie Mainoo | Athletic: Ready to leave Manchester United on loan in January

Ollie Derbyshire said:
Yoro & Heaven will be first choice subs and De Ligt and Martinez have shown they get injured a lot.

In this example formation, Amad, Mbeumo, Cunha & Sesko should all be treated the same, most in form 3 play.
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Also I forgot Maz. He’s 1st choice RB for me.
 
Wezzaldo said:
Agree. A team of
Lammens
Dalot MDL. Licha. Shaw
Cas
Bruno. Mount
Bryan. Cunha
Sesko

Would allow us to really press aggressively up the pitch.

Drama is going to be what happens with Amad, Yoro and Heaven more than anything else.
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You have not learnt anything at all from the last few years
 
I am amazed any player, at any level, would go onto socials.

It's just not worth it. Have your agent/management team control all that if they want to do any sort of extra commercial stuff with brands etc.
 
RuudTom83 said:
I am amazed any player, at any level, would go onto socials.

It's just not worth it. Have your agent/management team control all that if they want to do any sort of extra commercial stuff with brands etc.
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This.
 
RuudTom83 said:
I am amazed any player, at any level, would go onto socials.

It's just not worth it. Have your agent/management team control all that if they want to do any sort of extra commercial stuff with brands etc.
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Thinking of that South Park episode where Butters curates the negative comments for Cartman
 
Apparently liked multiple posts about Amorims sacking. What a sweet guy. Didn't a former MU graduate, that now plays at Chelsea, do something similar with ETH?



Edit: not passive aggressive at all.
 
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He's well within his rights to like whatever the hell he wants. A manager who almost killed his career at his dream club for feck all. Hopefully he's back playing again very soon.
 
Mockney said:
It’s fecking dumb though. They all know Itll go public, so it’s not the greatest indicator of maturity.
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He's 20. And even if people see he liked a meme about the manager who kinda fecked him over getting sacked... Who cares? He's gone. He has nothing to do with Mainoos career anymore, or this club.
 
Just immature and tone deaf really. What will be worse is if he goes down the Garnacho path. Let your football do the talking and not your like function.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Do we want players like that in our squad?
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20 year olds who have liked a post about a manager who he didn't get along with at all getting sacked?

Do you remember what guys like Scholes, Rooney and Giggs did both on and off the pitch? It's a complete non story FFS. It's not even him being a dick or unprofessional, he's liked a post. About somebody who is not part of this football club and who Mainoo will never work with again in football. It's very much a shrug and move on thing.
 
On the topic of professionalism.

You have a manager that destroyed TVs in anger, regularly attacked players in the media, had multiple public meltdowns, did interviews that the club had to stop broadcasters from publishing because of the stuff he said, and so on.

On the other hand, you have a player liking a joke about said manager celebrating his £10m payout.
 
NotChatGPT said:
How was he kinda fecked over
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By having the fewest minutes in our entire squad, obviously. Any player who is pretty much getting 0 minutes across half a season would be in a shit mood and would feel glad that the manager is gone. Because they'll now be able to play football again.
 
Dannn411 said:
He's well within his rights to like whatever the hell he wants. A manager who almost killed his career at his dream club for feck all. Hopefully he's back playing again very soon.
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He starts on the bench today, but what about my player fc??? Fletcher out already ffs I can't believe he's done this to Mainoo, he's entitled to that position, he's earned it!!
 
NotThatSoph said:
On the topic of professionalism.

You have a manager that destroyed TVs in anger, regularly attacked players in the media, had multiple public meltdowns, did interviews that the club had to stop broadcasters from publishing because of the stuff he said, and so on.

On the other hand, you have a player liking a joke about said manager celebrating his £10m payout.
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Nah professionalism only applies for our players. Just look at the reaction to the coach speaking out against his boss or a player doing it
 
hellhunter said:
Nah professionalism only applies for our players. Just look at the reaction to the coach speaking out against his boss or a player doing it
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Em... he was sacked?


That aside I don't think any of this is too much of an issue. Ideally players would rise above this but hey ho.
 
No wonder we have one wasted talent after another. Entitled and childish behavior and lots of excuses in here for this because he showed some promise.
 
moses said:
Em... he was sacked?


That aside I don't think any of this is too much of an issue. Ideally players would rise above this but hey ho.
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Sorry meant the reaction on here.

We're expecting more professional behaviour from our players, who are quite often still silly kids. It's a pet peeve of mine. Teenagers will be stupid, it happens. And there's no real malice here. Small time and should avoid it, sure, like you say nothing that should be an issue going forward
 
bosnian_red said:
By having the fewest minutes in our entire squad, obviously. Any player who is pretty much getting 0 minutes across half a season would be in a shit mood and would feel glad that the manager is gone. Because they'll now be able to play football again.
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He’s been shit, not fecked over.
 
bosnian_red said:
By having the fewest minutes in our entire squad, obviously. Any player who is pretty much getting 0 minutes across half a season would be in a shit mood and would feel glad that the manager is gone. Because they'll now be able to play football again.
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He arguably should have gotten more mins as sub, but he hasn't been good for a while so its hard to get too angry. It's fine, he's 20.
 
NotChatGPT said:
He’s been shit, not fecked over.
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He's been ignored. He hasn't even had the chance to be shit. Everyone's been shit anyway.

In a 343 with the squad we have, I actually agree with Amorim in that it's Bruno and Casemiro in midfield. And it's clearly Ugarte for case and Mainoo for Bruno there. My issue was always the system itself that I blamed Amorim for. Any normal system of play gives Mainoo more minutes. He's a 20 year old who needs development, who needs minutes, and who needs time. If he's locked on the bench, then it's a waste of time. Glad Amorim is gone now and Mainoo will be relieved as his Man United career has a chance to survive now, while Amorim was clearly pushing him out.
 
moses said:
He arguably should have gotten more mins as sub, but he hasn't been good for a while so its hard to get too angry. It's fine, he's 20.
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With 343 goggles on then I can't even complain about Mainoo's game time. It makes sense that it's Bruno or him, and that means its always Bruno. The issue was we don't fit the 343, and a 433/4231 just gets him more minutes to develop anyway which he needs at his age. He's not an automatic starter even with Ole or Fletcher, but at least he won't see it like needing Bruno to get injured for him to get a chance.
 
bosnian_red said:
He's been ignored. He hasn't even had the chance to be shit. Everyone's been shit anyway.

In a 343 with the squad we have, I actually agree with Amorim in that it's Bruno and Casemiro in midfield. And it's clearly Ugarte for case and Mainoo for Bruno there. My issue was always the system itself that I blamed Amorim for. Any normal system of play gives Mainoo more minutes. He's a 20 year old who needs development, who needs minutes, and who needs time. If he's locked on the bench, then it's a waste of time. Glad Amorim is gone now and Mainoo will be relieved as his Man United career has a chance to survive now, while Amorim was clearly pushing him out.
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He’s been poor for quite some time now, including last season, and whenever he’s come on this season he’s looked lethargic at best. Off the pich he’s moaning about his situation and like so many other entitled youngsters he’s sulking rather than looking at himself.
 
bosnian_red said:
With 343 goggles on then I can't even complain about Mainoo's game time. It makes sense that it's Bruno or him, and that means its always Bruno. The issue was we don't fit the 343, and a 433/4231 just gets him more minutes to develop anyway which he needs at his age. He's not an automatic starter even with Ole or Fletcher, but at least he won't see it like needing Bruno to get injured for him to get a chance.
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343 goggles is where you lost me.
 
And when this lack of professionalism of which liking these type of posts are a sign of translates to downing tools under the next, and next, and next manager, we’re supposed to think ”well he doesn’t like the manager so why should he play well for him??” and excuse that as well?

Our players are paid handsomely to be part of the club and with that comes an expectation of a certain level of professionalism. Having your family signal stuff to the manager (assuming he knew about his half brother’s stunt or else his camp would’ve leaked his condemnation to Whitwell et al) and liking this type of posts on social media signals the next manager is going to need to get used to it if he doesn’t fancy playing a young player that’s paid a lot of money to play for his boyhood club.

Not really a player I would build a squad around if you ask me. If they’re likely to turn on you in public, why would they not be liable to train poorly, down tools on the pitch and whatnot?
 
JBG said:
Apparently liked multiple posts about Amorims sacking. What a sweet guy. Didn't a former MU graduate, that now plays at Chelsea, do something similar with ETH?



Edit: not passive aggressive at all.
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Whats the evidence this is real? I really hope we have that and are not irresponsibly spreading nonsense.
 
moses said:
That's not a good barometer of much.
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Considering we are all posting here, it does mean something significant, otherwise we wouldn't have had the 'toxic negativity' that was bandied around in Amorim's thread whenever there was mostly justified criticism levied at him. Now some on here are being 'toxic' with a player liking a social media post about a sacked manager that disrespected the club, his seniors and the fans with 14 months of absolute dross.

For these forums, I would imagine this barometer of discussion is exactly what would be of general concern. Not saying that it needs to be 'moderated' but I don't think calling out the reaction is of less signficance. In the grand scheme of things, of course it means absolutely zero, just as all of these words on a screen are.
 
Not sure he's worth the fuss but we will find out now I guess.

He needs to get his head down, work hard to get in/stay in the team and tell his brother to shut the feck up.
 
Dannn411 said:
He's well within his rights to like whatever the hell he wants. A manager who almost killed his career at his dream club for feck all. Hopefully he's back playing again very soon.
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Killed his career at twenty by starting him every game he was fit last year. Three months of being told he needs to buck up and improve won't hurt him because he needs it.
 
criticalanalysis said:
Considering we are all posting here, it does mean something significant, otherwise we wouldn't have had the 'toxic negativity' that was bandied around in Amorim's thread whenever there was mostly justified criticism levied at him. Now some on here are being 'toxic' with a player liking a social media post about a sacked manager that disrespected the club, his seniors and the fans with 14 months of absolute dross.

For these forums, I would imagine this barometer of discussion is exactly what would be of general concern. Not saying that it needs to be 'moderated' but I don't think calling out the reaction is of less signficance. In the grand scheme of things, of course it means absolutely zero, just as all of these words on a screen are.
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I'd personally say there are too many variables to gauge much, but that doesn't matter how you read the hysteria on here.
 
Dannn411 said:
He's well within his rights to like whatever the hell he wants. A manager who almost killed his career at his dream club for feck all. Hopefully he's back playing again very soon.
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If he keeps doing that he won't be at the club much longer. Just like that idiot Garnacho. End of story.
 
Noticed he was first off the coach and leading the group down towards the dressing rooms. Clearly has something to prove.
 
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