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You strike me as a very rational individual who has put a lot of thought into this
You don't help yourself sometimes
 
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Closer to reality to say he was acting as security, the mob were acting to mete out vigilante justice on Rittenhouse after the first shooting (which they believe was justified)
He said he'd gone there to help a friend protect their business/property yeah?

Wonder why he was wandering around. I'd have thought he just have stayed by/inside that property (that he was helping to protect).
 

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You don't help yourself sometimes
No one who has ever been in this thread is gonna see the username and think of anything else. Of all the causes you could make the one you're so belligerent on that it comes to define you.
 

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He said he'd gone there to help a friend protect their business/property yeah?

Wonder why he was wandering around. I'd have thought he just have stayed by/inside that property (that he was helping to protect).
He'd been separated from the group because of the police pushing their line up the road, and he was heading to the other car source when he got a call from one of his friends saying there was a fire. He asked someone if he could take their extinguisher and if they could come with him, they just gave him the extinguisher.

He then was heading towards where the fire was with a mix of running and walking to catch his breath.

The owners say they didn't give permission now, but they had the keys, the owners took photos with the group, gave them lifts etc. They were evasive on the stand
 
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He'd been separated from the group because of the police pushing their line up the road, and he was heading to the other car source when he got a call from one of his friends saying there was a fire. He asked someone if he could take their extinguisher and if they could come with him, they just gave him the extinguisher.

He then was heading towards where the fire was with a mix of running and walking to catch his breath.

The owners say they didn't give permission now, but they had the keys, the owners took photos with the group, gave them lifts etc. They were evasive on the stand
A security guard, an EMT and now a fire-fighter.

Multi talented.
 

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He'd been separated from the group because of the police pushing their line up the road, and he was heading to the other car source when he got a call from one of his friends saying there was a fire. He asked someone if he could take their extinguisher and if they could come with him, they just gave him the extinguisher.

He then was heading towards where the fire was with a mix of running and walking to catch his breath.

The owners say they didn't give permission now, but they had the keys, the owners took photos with the group, gave them lifts etc. They were evasive on the stand
So was playing fireman Sam too, while having a AR15 hanging off his shoulder.

Had no business taking out fires and going into those areas, it's like throwing a lit match into a box of fireworks.
 

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You strike me as a very rational individual who has put a lot of thought into this
You could at least answer me on my question about the precedent this sets and your view on it. I'm genuinely interested.
 

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So we can call him a security guard, an EMT and a firefighter despite him being none of those things but we can’t call him a murderer after he’s killed two people. Ok then.
 

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We have surnames now. But calling people by surnames is super weird around here. Even our president don't get called by his last name, but Jokowi , which is like calling Donrump for donald trump.
If that is the reason why you used the first name, along with the typing on the phone, then the wrong person behind the post got caught in the fire and I'm sorry for that, even if I stand by the use of the first name as clearly signifying closeness and familiarity in this context, no matter whether you intend it to.
And, while I'm sorry if the insinuation of instinctively buddying up was wrongfully directed at you, it still stands and who knows, you might also want to take notice of that.

Ultimately, we are not dealing here with each other as persons as much as with each other's posts. I can't know more about you than what I read which also means I would never address, attack, or argue with, more of you than what I read - the aim isn't to insult you as a person, just as I'm not actually worried or offended if you say you might shoot me :lol:
 
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You could at least answer me on my question about the precedent this sets and your view on it. I'm genuinely interested.
Doesn't set any precedent. A lot of the narrative around the case is utter bullshit and anyone who goes to intentionally provoke a situation to get away with a kill is ignorant as well as psychotic and will end up severely punished, or dead before they are arrested.
 

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Speaking of the whole thing what to people think about looting and arson? Like setting dozens of cars on fire? Would you want them convicted or just get away with it because it's just like a just cause?
 

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Doesn't set any precedent. A lot of the narrative around the case is utter bullshit and anyone who goes to intentionally provoke a situation to get away with a kill is ignorant as well as psychotic and will end up severely punished, or dead before they are arrested.
The narrative that he was decidedly antagonistic towards people in this riot even saying if I had my AR I would shoot these people. Then proceed to insert himself in the riot and do exactly that?

How would this be different than going to the next riot with an AR 15 secretly hoping you can kill someone in self defense? Which part would be impossible? I honestly don't see it.

I do agree on the psychotic and ignorant part. Kyle Rittenhouse obviously needs mental help.
 

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Speaking of the whole thing what to people think about looting and arson? Like setting dozens of cars on fire? Would you want them convicted or just get away with it because it's just like a just cause?
Start a thread.
 

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Speaking of the whole thing what to people think about looting and arson? Like setting dozens of cars on fire? Would you want them convicted or just get away with it because it's just like a just cause?
I remember discussions about this last year and someone said it's a non-issue as businesses have insurance and all that. Meanwhile forgetting that plenty of these smaller businesses were minority-owned with not-so-good insurance.

There's a New York Times article on it describing their struggle to recover.
 

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Doesn't set any precedent. A lot of the narrative around the case is utter bullshit and anyone who goes to intentionally provoke a situation to get away with a kill is ignorant as well as psychotic and will end up severely punished, or dead before they are arrested.
I think Cuomo encapsulated everything last night. The WI law was incredibly bad the way it was written.

 

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I remember discussions about this last year and someone said it's a non-issue as businesses have insurance and all that. Meanwhile forgetting that plenty of these smaller businesses were minority-owned with not-so-good insurance.

There's a New York Times article on it describing their struggle to recover.
Well I just remember footage from that night and I wonder when people feel entitled to burn down people's private property. As a matter of principle I would want someone burning down my stuff arrested and convicted. For people who think that is off-topic people are linking his not-guilty verdict with the rise of Nazi Germany.
 
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If that is the reason why you used the first name, along with the typing on the phone, then the wrong person behind the post got caught in the fire and I'm sorry for that, even if I stand by the use of the first name as clearly signifying closeness and familiarity in this context, no matter whether you intend it to.
And, while I'm sorry if the insinuation of instinctively buddying up was wrongfully directed at you, it still stands and who knows, you might also want to take notice of that.

Ultimately, we are not dealing here with each other as persons as much as with each other's posts. I can't know more about you than what I read which also means I would never address, attack, or argue with, more of you than what I read - the aim isn't to insult you as a person, just as I'm not actually worried or offended if you say you might shoot me :lol:
I know you don't mean it, so did I

But seriously, It's insulting to be lumped with what that dude represents (white supremacist, KKK, etc) . It's like you're being called a nazi symphatizer because you used Adolf instead of Hitler.
 

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Speaking of the whole thing what to people think about looting and arson? Like setting dozens of cars on fire? Would you want them convicted or just get away with it because it's just like a just cause?
If this was another thread I'd probably say that cars can be replaced. A lot of people see property damage covered by Insurance as victimless but life can be hard for some people and it isn't victimless whatever people might say. You still can't just replace a living human being, or the damage caused to family or friends, sometimes the missing is never gotten over.
 

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This still isn't close to what the Nazis did...why do I have to point that out again and again? It's plain obvious that the current state of the US/UK is far away from being early 1930/1933.



You don't have to educate me about my country's history. I'm very aware of it. The bullshit part is the connection to the current UK/US. It's hyperbolic to such an extent that it sounds ridiculous to any sane person.
It's just that the selective quoting made it look like you were disputing the facts, not the connection.
 

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If this was another thread I'd probably say that cars can be replaced. A lot of people see property damage covered by Insurance as victimless but life can be hard for some people and it isn't victimless whatever people might say. You still can't just replace a living human being, or the damage caused to family or friends, sometimes the missing is never gotten over.
I wasn't equating property with human lives.
 

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The early 1930s vibes I'm getting
If anything, this vibes are coming from people like you, the hard left-wingers.

And you know it and you are proving it with every post you make.


The loud re-emergence of people like you two AfD drones are an example of why I'm getting them, too.
Yeah, you completely fell for the left-wing propaganda and probably you would have fell for the Nazi propaganda back then aswell.
 

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If anything, this vibes are coming from people like you, the hard left-wingers.

And you know it and you are proving it with every post you make.




Yeah, you completely fell for the left-wing propaganda and probably you would have fell for the Nazi propaganda back then aswell.
Who are you, Hubertus Knabe? Stop molesting your interns, then.
 

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I did yeah. It's not really surprising considering all the shit burnt down that night.
Well, you got one over on me.

On another thread I'd probably say that cars can be replaced. A lot of people see property damage covered by Insurance as victimless but life can be hard for some people and it isn't victimless whatever people might say. You still can't just replace a living human being, or the damage caused to family or friends, sometimes the missing is never gotten over.
 

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We have surnames now. But calling people by surnames is super weird around here. Even our president don't get called by his last name, but Jokowi , which is like calling Donrump for donald trump.
It's very much a school thing calling people by their surnames- would be odd in the office. I like Donrump though.
 

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If anything, this vibes are coming from people like you, the hard left-wingers.

And you know it and you are proving it with every post you make.




Yeah, you completely fell for the left-wing propaganda and probably you would have fell for the Nazi propaganda back then aswell.
Who are you, Hubertus Knabe? Stop molesting your interns, then.
Can the two of you take it to PM to avoid derailing the thread.
 

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He was always going to be found not guilty. I would have been amazed for a whole jury to find him guilty based on the videos and the little bit of law that I read.
 

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I couldn't get past the 20 second mark...

That's even better that I thought :lol:

I was at least expecting him to feign a bit of remorse or say that he feels bad about having killed people, but it's just a load of "I could have been hurt instead :(". Fecking hell.
 

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I think Cuomo encapsulated everything last night. The WI law was incredibly bad the way it was written.

Good clip, and good on Cuomo for reignign it in.

How awful has been the media covereage of this thing. CNN is terrible, but MSNBC takes the cake as per usual. Clear example of "white privilege" - like what the actual feck?

There's absolutely no racial angle on this case, everybody is the same color, so I don't understand how you can make a white guy shooting three other white guys about racism unless it's pure whataboutism and hypotheticals which don't contribute to a civilized discourse.