From the little I have seen, the lack of Kroos replacement is your biggest issue, there is no game manager and elite passer.
Kylian Mbappé | Real Madrid watch
- Thread starter Samid
- Start date
From the little I have seen, the lack of Kroos replacement is your biggest issue, there is no game manager and elite passer.
And they had two fellas at that with Luka, this last one sadly is on his last days. If they add more pause, more control to their game and rearm a bit their defense, as long upfront they get along, they are settle.
PD: still they still can win everything just how they already are.
Why were you guys talking about zirkzee in an Mbappe thread
didn’t know. I’ve double checked. It was Pogues fault. Basically cos Mbappe started a bit meh he suggested maybe there should be patience with Zirkzee. Then he scored two against Everton so Pogue poked me…. And now he’s not scored since ….It looks like Mbappe is back to his best form. Forgive us for doubting a player who scored a hattrick in a world cup final.
Nah, we won't forgive you.
I wont question the greatness of such exceptional players again.
I mean, he took 6 months to adapt to the pressure and expectations of playing for Madrid, nothing new or noteworthy honestly. Same thing has happened to many a great player, including Zidane
Now he's back to his level. The whole fit issue with Vini isn't really an issue either, of course, because they're way too good and especially way too good individualists and different enough players not to figure it out
Rather the issue is with team balance. The reality is we can't afford all 4 of Vini, Mbappé, Rodrygo and Jude at the same time against great sides, something the last clasico taught Carlo for good, so we most likely won't see it again. Ceballos is playing well and at this point I doubt he loses his place in midfield, Camavinga is going to have to be ready for his chance
Beyond that, the backline continues to be an issue due to the injuries
Now he's back to his level. The whole fit issue with Vini isn't really an issue either, of course, because they're way too good and especially way too good individualists and different enough players not to figure it out
Rather the issue is with team balance. The reality is we can't afford all 4 of Vini, Mbappé, Rodrygo and Jude at the same time against great sides, something the last clasico taught Carlo for good, so we most likely won't see it again. Ceballos is playing well and at this point I doubt he loses his place in midfield, Camavinga is going to have to be ready for his chance
Beyond that, the backline continues to be an issue due to the injuries
Shin-yian Mbappé.
World class, but not out of this world. He's been a top 5 player for a long time but can never seem to cement himself as really the best.
Didn't think he looked better than Vinicius, Bellingham or Haaland today. They are all of the same class in my opinion. This will be the reason why he should never be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, even if he somehow becomes more succesful trophy-wise (which would be a hard task).
He does play for arguably the two most talented teams in world football.
Didn't think he looked better than Vinicius, Bellingham or Haaland today. They are all of the same class in my opinion. This will be the reason why he should never be compared to Messi or Ronaldo, even if he somehow becomes more succesful trophy-wise (which would be a hard task).
He does play for arguably the two most talented teams in world football.
Amazing!
Nearly sent him to the hospital with that turn.
Beautiful, up there with Messi leaving Boateng on his arse.
His stats are insane….
Is he actually better than Rashford though?
Put Rashford in this Real Madrid side and he gets similar numbers
I hope this is irony
Nothing significant. I dare him to do it at Manchester United.
It shouldn't be. La Liga is overrated. I indulged my hate boner earlier and the data from clubelo.com suggested that scoring for RM in La Liga is actually easier than scoring for PSG in Ligue 1. The gap between top and the rest is that absurd but RM have none of the scrutiny because of what they are - the most succesful team in the history of the sport. Yet it's hard to deny that they're 1 (Barca) and a half (Atletico) side away from being THE farmers league.
In the last 5 years, Spanish teams have won the Europa League 3 times (to go with the 2 wins for Real Madrid in the Champions League.)
In the same period, no French team has reached the final of the Europa. "Hard to deny" that there's at least some depth there.
You can spit out whatever stats you want, you'll still look stupid if you're using them to justify Rashford matching Mbappe's scoring record in that Madrid team ffs.
Here we go with this nonsense again.
Well, of course not. Football played outside of England is completely irrelevant. We can’t rate players based on their performances in the WC, the UCL or La Liga. Only the mighty PL matters.
This is a lot of crazy talk. I wonder when that LaLiga is nothing stuff started.
Ballon d'Or runner-up Vinicius Jr has not ever reached 30 goals in a single season at RM but we're now supposed to believe current-day Marcus Rashford would.
This nonsense has been debunked time and time again. I’m starting to think that how someone rates other leagues should be some sort of litmus test for their ball knowledge and maybe even IQ.
Fair point. You can score hundreds of goals in the French League, dozens of goals in the Champions League, 30 goals in your first season in the Spanish League, and four goals in the World Cup final (more than anyone else, like ever), but if you haven't scored against Southampton, you haven't actually proven anything.
I do wonder what price those numbers come at. They are clearly not getting the best out of Vini with him in the team.
I guess it doesn’t matter if they win the CL again, get in the ear of another few players they fancy to run down their deals etc…
I guess it doesn’t matter if they win the CL again, get in the ear of another few players they fancy to run down their deals etc…
What Vinicius could do with a ball, Rashford could do it with an orange.
There is an issue with the balance, for sure. There's probably loads of ego stuff going on behind the scenes as well. Buying Mbappe was not necessarily the correct move (remains to be seen), but I was just pushing back against this silly notion that it is easy to score goals for them, or in La Liga generally.
No, you are right to disregard that notion, especially given how poor the quality has been in the PL this year.
It’s definitely not “right” as regards to the interplay between the front players, and as you say, something has to give with the egos involved.
How is La Liga overrated if almost everybody thinks the Premier League is the best? Including La Liga fans like me. The prem is the best league mostly due to the absurd quantities of money it gets from in and out of football. The quality of the game however, is rather mediocre for all the big names it has.
I want to see Vinicius peel a football.
Well. He definitely hasn't peel any orange to La Liga fans.
Last edited:
Killian, can always pull out numbers, when playing great, so so or even bad in the course of a season.
He could have been out of CL, more than probably massacred if that happened and instantly makes a golazo and scores two in La Liga and he is still on the race for every title.
He can end as the Ballon de Or favorite when he played the season like he usually plays games, with moments and some entire great match on between.
He is a rare player in such regard, he has lots of talent and some sort of disconnection that works wonders most of time for him no matter what on the long run.
At the end of the season if from now he pulls out some important goals in CL and La Liga and wins a lot, the difficulties when he started, his up and lows, the matches where he was poor against big rivals, will mean nothing and he'll be on top for any award.
Anyway, he already had in my view a very good season given its his first, given he started really bad and turned it around. For all that irregularity, he also gave some great instances and some very good performances when the team wasn't precisely at its best at all.
So far it's quite a rare season, yet not that rare with him.
PD: The EPL fanboyism it's the worse from every period any other League has been more or less regarded as the best. And the disrespect the French, Italian and German ones receive it's even worse than with La Liga.
He could have been out of CL, more than probably massacred if that happened and instantly makes a golazo and scores two in La Liga and he is still on the race for every title.
He can end as the Ballon de Or favorite when he played the season like he usually plays games, with moments and some entire great match on between.
He is a rare player in such regard, he has lots of talent and some sort of disconnection that works wonders most of time for him no matter what on the long run.
At the end of the season if from now he pulls out some important goals in CL and La Liga and wins a lot, the difficulties when he started, his up and lows, the matches where he was poor against big rivals, will mean nothing and he'll be on top for any award.
Anyway, he already had in my view a very good season given its his first, given he started really bad and turned it around. For all that irregularity, he also gave some great instances and some very good performances when the team wasn't precisely at its best at all.
So far it's quite a rare season, yet not that rare with him.
PD: The EPL fanboyism it's the worse from every period any other League has been more or less regarded as the best. And the disrespect the French, Italian and German ones receive it's even worse than with La Liga.
The EPL fanboyism is so silly sometimes. Yes, it's the best, most in-depth and most exciting football league in the world. But La Liga is no farmers league and the technical and tactical level there is on par and sometimes even better than the EPL.
On another note, Mbappé is class and even in his new role at RM he's thriving. They didn't really need him but I suppose they have some flexibility going forward with Vinicius now.
On another note, Mbappé is class and even in his new role at RM he's thriving. They didn't really need him but I suppose they have some flexibility going forward with Vinicius now.
He’s an incredible player. Doesn’t get the praise he deserves at times.
This year I don't think PL is the best league in the world.
Next round no PL teams will be left in CL final 4.
Next round no PL teams will be left in CL final 4.