Kylian Mbappé | Real Madrid watch

Gio said:
I get the theory, but the numbers don't back it up. The season before Mbappe moved from Monaco, PSG scored 83 goals. His first season with PSG they score 108 goals. Then 105 goals. The Covid season was curtailed but on track to score 96 goals. Then 86, 90, 89 and 81 (but with 34 games). He leaves to join Real and it goes up to 92 goals - so an improvement but fairly average compared to Mbappe's PSG career. And this season PSG are projected to reach 75 goals, their lowest in 15 years.

For Real the figures are similar. We need to go back a few years to when Real had a stronger team and a stronger midfield to reach the point when they scored a lot more than they typically score nowadays. That is the main point I would make is that we are judging the individuals by the outcome of their teams, which isn't right for me.
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I've looked through the recent RM seasons, its roughly the same as with Mbappe in the team, and actually, the season before he joined, the team scores more.

You can say its due to other factors, i guess.
 
giorno said:
I like him but I don't know that he's good enough for us honestly

Plus I don't want to kinkshame or anything, but a wolf fursona is uninspired
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I can't believe this got missed

The caf is honestly the last place I'd expect to see people talking about fursonas :lol:
 
I could have kept going without typing fursona into Google. I blame myself.
 
Acrobat7 said:
Griezmann is heavily underrated on this forum. I‘ve always been a fan and his career for the national team is absolutely fantastic. He will also absolutely destroy MLS when he moves there this summer(?).
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Not sure he is; he’s just not spoken about much.
 
Gazza said:
Yeah the caf has always rated him highly/world class as I recall. There has been a clamor to sign him in more than one summer window in years previous.
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Yep. And his World Cup winning run was drooled over from start to finish.
 
bosnian_red said:
It's really not... Mbappe is ridiculously underrated just because of who he's played for. Mbappe has more club goals in 350 fewer games. More National team goals in 30 fewer games. He's had 2 world cups better than what Henry has ever done at a world Cup, I mean he's almost certainly going to become the all time top world Cup goalscorer this tournament barring injury. Champions League as well, Henry was never a patch on what Mbappe has shown in his career already.
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I dont agree. The game is different now, there are more games and bigger gulfs between teams. Its far easier to pad your stats than it used to be.

Mbappe might end up with better stats but not the better player.
 
There aren't more games in comparison to when Henry played.

It all pretty much levels out. No qualifying rounds for big sides in Champions League, no cup replays, no second group stage in Champions League...the number of games over season is pretty similar in comparison between Henry and Mbappe.
 
Long_Harry said:
I dont agree. The game is different now, there are more games and bigger gulfs between teams. Its far easier to pad your stats than it used to be.

Mbappe might end up with better stats but not the better player.
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Its already been said, and it's an opinion shared among the majority of French people who I've heard talk about the comparison.. but there's only really nostalgia going for Henry. Their performances for the national team are not remotely comparable, neither are performances in the CL. Mbappe has more career goals for club and country despite having like 400 career games fewer. Yes it's easier to stat pad now, but to that extent? Nah.
 
MiceOnMeth said:
He is in every single metric except he didn't strike fear into your 10 year old heart
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Firstly your maths doesn't quite add up.

However, besides that, how would you compare generations?

Stats don't help you because style of play changes, tactics change, even balls change. Having grown up seeing amazing defenders, the art of defending has been lost. Balls move differently. Systems are more important.

So yes, I think fear is a decent metric because it reflects impact. Everyone knew when they got on the ball something could happen. R9 was another when we played them. It marks special talent.
 
Madrid fans have massively turned against him
No PSG fan regrets his departure
PSG is still on track for a back to back UCL wins while Madrid are about to go trophyless for the second straight season.

If he's the "best player in the world" then we haven't had a worse one in a very very long time.
 
Another one done his hamstring / muscle just before the world cup...

To go with Yamal, Estevao, Gnarby and lots of others. Schedule bloat is killing the game.
 
BalanceUnAutreJoint said:
I absolutely agree with that sentiment but he's the "best player in the world" in the eyes of many.
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I don't think anybody who watches spanish football would consider him better than Lamine Yamal at this point. Not even Roncero :lol:
 
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giorno said:
I don't think anybody who watches spanish football would consider him better than Lamine Yamal at this point. Not even Roncero :lol:
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I think him winning the world cup so young and France being so competitive in most international tournaments since then has meant that to many people who mostly follow other leagues and dont watch him regularly, his reputation hasnt dropped much.
 
BalanceUnAutreJoint said:
Madrid fans have massively turned against him
No PSG fan regrets his departure
PSG is still on track for a back to back UCL wins while Madrid are about to go trophyless for the second straight season.

If he's the "best player in the world" then we haven't had a worse one in a very very long time.
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He's not the best player in the world in my opinion. Always thought he was more about incredible pace than technique (though his technique is competent).

But there's a good chance that he wins the Ballon D'Or this season. As you appear to the president of his haters' club, this could be a very difficult year for you (even though it would mean France winning the World Cup, and you appear to be French) :lol:
 
Jogger Bonitoe said:
He's not the best player in the world in my opinion. Always thought he was more about incredible pace than technique (though his technique is competent).

But there's a good chance that he wins the Ballon D'Or this season. As you appear to the president of his haters' club, this could be a very difficult year for you (even though it would mean France winning the World Cup, and you appear to be French) :lol:
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Dembele and Olise are in a better spot than he is right now should we win the World Cup. They're both having vastly better CL campaigns and one of the two is likely to lift the CL.
 
BalanceUnAutreJoint said:
Dembele and Olise are in a better spot than he is right now should we win the World Cup. They're both having vastly better CL campaigns and one of the two is likely to lift the CL.
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I don't think that matters, TBH. Dembele won it last year, so he is highly unlikely to win it back to back. He doesn't have that kind of PR. Olise maybe, but the World Cup tends to make everyone completely forget about the Champions League, and Olise plays out of position for France.

If France win the World Cup, Mbappe is likely to score a lot of goals, and if he does that, he will become the leading scorer in World Cup history at age 27. Hence, in that scenario, he will almost certainly be awarded the Ballon D'Or.
 
It's literally the pre-game picture against Espanyol
 
I couldn't believe when he was 23/24 and not interested in pressing. He got away with too much babying at PSG and that has ruined him.
 
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