GatoLoco
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What did Gareth Bale do there?
I mean, after scoring.
I mean, after scoring.
No, I didn't. Could've done that again to settle it. I'm still sure that a human decides when the ball is passed which will have an impact in very tight calls.It is a computer that draws the line for offside. Did you not see them showing the graphics in the first half some 10 minutes after Griezmann goal?
They've been getting fecked over by VAR week after week before tonightEven with VAR Real still get help from the refs. Some things will never change I guess
Is he actually 18? Looks 30!I do rate Vinicius.
Are there any other 18 year old players who are starters at big clubs? Maybe there is some but it would be quite surprising.
I still don't know why Lopetegui didn't give him more chances.Very impressive by Madrid to come back from the dead to looking like a very good team, Vinicius starting completely changed the direction of their season.
Great timing for it to happen too just before the Champions League restarts. Still don't think they'll win it but now I don't see them having any problem to go past Ajax.
I thought they'll show it again for Morata but didn't happen. I don't like VAR the way it is right now. Helps with offside calls but in game referee decisions can not be challenged by teams. Should be like tennis.No, I didn't. Could've done that again to settle it. I'm still sure that a human decides when the ball is passed which will have an impact in very tight calls.
Think it was a foul on Vini before Griezmann's goal too.Think Real were a bit lucky today. The penalty was probably just outside the box and Morata's disallowed goal was difficult to call. Fair play to Solari for turning it around though.
I was just going to say it has been disallowed.Oh Rayo...
Edit: Goal chalked off by VAR. Point would still be good from this.
Class goal to be fair.
Imagine giving Bale that much space.
I think Lopetegui had a very definite idea of how to play with a lot of passing, very much mirroring the strength of the Spanish national team he had managed. In that scheme, players like Isco and Asensio had a much bigger role. Vinicius was not only young and raw, but probably too direct for his liking.I still don't know why Lopetegui didn't give him more chances.
Getting excuses ready for what? For Messi failing? That is only in your imagination, I'm afraid.Already getting your excuses ready. Really convenient.
I wouldn't go so far as to say the worst fanbase out there. I know we're not winning any sympathies, but that seems exaggerated.Valverde is also not average. The Barca fanbase is average, if anything. Actually below average: appaling is the fitting word.
Man goes unbeaten 37 league games, wins the double, is in pole position in every competition again, several blowouts in Clasicos (3-0 in Bernabeu, 5-1 at home, even without Messi) and they think they have an average manager because of 1 loss when the entire team mentally switched off for 90 minutes after a 4-1 first leg result.
They think Suarez, the guy who is already Barca's top 5 top scorers of all time and will end up 2nd highest by the time he retires, is average as well because he is clumsy at times.
Bunch of teenage kids who started watching around 2009 earliest and think Barca must forever play like prime Xavi, Iniesta, Alves days.
Worst fanbase in the world bar none. There is no support for anyone whatsoever. Even booed one of their own legends, Luis Enrique, who won them the treble and double because of 1 average season. Imagine calling Ole names after he wins treble and double but then wins only the Cup in his third season.
Yep. Pep never finished undefeated, but his teams will be talked about for a long time. No one, not even Barça fans, will be talking about Valverde's teams once he's gone. I actually hope this is Valverde's last season with us, so enough said. I just don't feel we can compete with the best.Valverde is barely an above average manager. He plays some of the most boring football a Barca team has played in nearly 15 years. Just dire football and he was far too pragmatic. He is better off with an Atletico type team that likes to sit back and grind out 1-0 games.
I think this season he has done a much better job playing the youth and he is quite good at making impact subs. However, despite the record last year in La Liga, nobody will be talking about that 2018 Barca squad several years from now, they played some dire football.
Messi is absolutely not playing next to average players. I don't think that's the argument people are making. What's clear, though, is that when Messi is on the pitch, everything gravitates towards him. This is due to both the manager and the players. Of course, "give the ball to Leo" is the easiest tactic in football and, as we can see, it can win you a domestic double, more than one actually. Problem is, that tactic is exposed in the big Champions League games. I can see the look on Rijkaard's face even now, back in 2006-07 when his game plan consisted of begging Messi to score.I'm making that point not to make a narrative but to counter the people who come here on every Barcelona match day trying to build the narrative that Messi is playing next to a bunch of average players and carrying their squad to trophies.
I've been saying it here for years now, Barcelona's last problem is their squad. They have the players to do it, they don't have the tactics for it.
The reason why I give Messi such a hard time for Barcelona's tactical problems is because he's the whole damn system. That team is completely built around him in a way no other top team is built around a single player. The moment that changes is the moment the best squad in the world will actually play like the best team in the world imo.
Valverde is a defensive coach who has Messi in his team.Valverde is defensive for Barcelona standards. Generally speaking he's not particularly defense oriented. Barcelona have 60 goals in the league as of now, the second best attack has 37.
All hail Leganes.What happened to Betis?!?! Lost 3-0 against Leganes
"El Lega" has conquered your heart, or was the pepino?All hail Leganes.
The big trophy of the day has already been won, Leganes beat Rayo 2-0 and won the Pepino de Oro, here shown alongside the runners-up trophy the Pepino de Plato.
For anyone uncertain what that trophy is - a pepino is a Spanish cucumber, usually short and with a bumpy surface.
Leganes are the pepineros.
It's their president and fanbase etc! I just liked the story of how the club staggered it's way up the league and how hard they've fought to hang on."El Lega" has conquered your heart, or was the pepino?
I have to admit that I was not a fan of filling the Primera with teams from Madrid, maybe because I identified them with Getafe, which is not very popular, but as you say, their president seems nice and has nothing to do with Angel TorresIt's their president and fanbase etc! I just liked the story of how the club staggered it's way up the league and how hard they've fought to hang on.
In any case, Setien was quite catty about them after the match, so I feel obliged to be their defender. They do their best - which is basically what the Leganes manager said in reply.
Eh, I wanted a draw.Perfect result today...
...for FC Barcelona.
Didn't play that strong a side, Jese actually started upfront for them who I forgot existed after his non-existant spells at Stoke and PSG. They were resting players for Valencia second leg whenever it is.What happened to Betis?!?! Lost 3-0 against Leganes
He's not a bad manager tbh, had a great season with Alaves. Just a bit defensive minded and that obviously wasnt a good fit at Southampton.2 defeats in 13 for Leganes, Pellegrino doing well there.