Lamine Yamal
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
He’s going to win it isn’t he?
You spelled Rashford wrong.
He's actually Quaresma's spirit animal.
It feels like he has gone up a level since the start of the CL semi finals. Before that I he was in the contention for best in the world but still got some extra points from people because of his young age. Now it just feels like he is clearly the best.
Not sure how reliable the graphic is, but cool nonetheless. Not sure which Messi season it is. That kit is from their 19-20 season, but I doubt it's that season with Messi's highest dribbles in La Liga. For Neymar, I'm pretty sure it's 2016-2017.
Whichever one they beat Juventus in the CL final. Twas a thing.
Not sure how reliable the graphic is, but cool nonetheless. Not sure which Messi season it is. That kit is from their 19-20 season, but I doubt it's that season with Messi's highest dribbles in La Liga. For Neymar, I'm pretty sure it's 2016-2017.
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That season definitely makes more sense than 19-20.
Not sure if the data goes back as far as 2010-2011. Still think that's Messi's best season overall.
Going to assume this is the most by a player in each individual season rather than just a comparison between these three players?
Not sure how reliable the graphic is, but cool nonetheless. Not sure which Messi season it is. That kit is from their 19-20 season, but I doubt it's that season with Messi's highest dribbles in La Liga. For Neymar, I'm pretty sure it's 2016-2017.
Yeah I just saw the graphic on another forum and thought it was interesting.
Still the best.
The best player in the world currently although Cherki needs to do it at the highest level but those two man. Wow!
Good to see him share a pitch with Dembele, Mbappe and Doue, so we can clearly see the difference between him and them. The French guys are all fantastic players that I have a lot of respect for, but Yamal is a genius. There's a gap. And it's not even about the goals - they were only a pen and à toe poke finish. My favourite things he did were the clipped pass over the top for the goal that was disallowed for offside, and another beautiful pass in the second half that wasn't finished.
Only 3 replies since yesterday shows that people are already getting used to his brilliance.
I got tired writing “another great game”
Just a normal day at the office for this kid
.To be fair, they were trying to charge £2.50 to watch the game in the UK. A lot of people won’t have seen the match because of that.
With all of his talent the most impressive thing about him is how well under pressure he plays. People talk about his age, but damn, he is 17. He shouldn't be playing with that composure on such a stage, but he does.
Hmm we might be seeing something a bit special again...
Absolutely scandalous, by the way.
But it looked like there was a gap between those players mentioned and Cherki too…
Not only that but he adds to the pressure by talking shit and going on to back it up. He laid the Ballon d'Or challenge vs Dembele with his comments pre-match and went on to show it.
Rivers were available, but still not interested personally as it's just a glorified friendly in a plastic tournament.
Cherki was great, but he came on as a sub, it's a different thing coming on fresh after 70 minutes or whatever against tired players.
Nevertheless, his first cap is long overdue, as we all realise now.
Man, this is probably the wackiest Ballon d Or ceremony in the making.
The Ballon D'Or has increased massively in importance over the past few years, and it's become kind of like the MVP in the NFL, where the candidates are debated endlessly on TV, radio, social media and Internet forums throughout the season.
But I guess in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter. It's great for the person that wins it, but I'm sure most players would prefer a huge team trophy over a Ballon D'Or, if they had to pick just one.
Also, it doesn't really determine who the best player is, but rather who is deemed to have had the best season. I think Yamal is the best player in the world right now, but that doesn't mean that Dembele would not be deserving if he won the Ballon D'Or (as I believe he still will), because he had a great season and PSG won a fantastic treble. The two things can be true at the same time.
I'll restate it again but it's really incredible how polished he already is. He's basically already a peak Neymar level player (more one footed), with the decision making to boot, and he's only 17.
It'll be interesting to see how he develops physically and how it affects his game. Really the only part he needs to improve is just his goalscoring instincts and maybe a bit more general sharpness in front of goal, but he's already as good as many of the Cafe's favorite wingers over the years. Wild.
It'll be interesting to see how he develops physically and how it affects his game. Really the only part he needs to improve is just his goalscoring instincts and maybe a bit more general sharpness in front of goal, but he's already as good as many of the Cafe's favorite wingers over the years. Wild.
Surprised this wasn't bumped after yesterday, but maybe it's been discussed in other threads - really underwhelming performance from him, no? Just tiredness after a long season? Though I guess playing against Nuno Mendes in beast mode doesn't help.
He's been massively overplayed for his age and over hyped. The concern has to be he'll decline early and / or have attitude issues.
Yep, agreed
If you watch him consistently I don’t think he gets hyped enough. People just tune into the big UCL games where he performs and are amazed that this 17 year old is performing at this level when he’s actually doing it week in week out
He’s been touted as the best player in the world and potential Balon Dor winner but the hype isn’t enough?
Mendes completely nullified the right side but it was weird how little take-ons he attempted, one thing about Lamine is he doesn't shy away from a battle but last night he was more interested in keeping it simple. Tactics from the manager? Who knows. Spain do have an issue down that right side as Mingueza and Porro just aren't good enough at this level and Mingueza especially doesn't offer much support for Yamal. Have to also take into account the combination of Nuno Mendes and Leao is bordering on unfair
He did get the better of Mendes though during that Barca-PSG game last year before the red card.People calling him overhyped are just bitter, waiting for their moment as they can't fathom a 17 year old doing what he's doing.
Very true, especially in his passing IQ, it's very impressive (combined with is excellent foot). If you compare him to another hyped player like Doué (who's 2 years older with less talent), Yamal looks like a far more mature player.
He's not a peak Neymar level player though, still far from it, a lot of people don't realize how good peak Neymar was. It was another level. Faster, better dribbler, better passer (because he was 2 footed), better finisher, elite free kick taker, prime Neymar was amazing.
Peak Neymar? Seriously?
A peak Neymar would far and away be the best player in the world with no competition in today's game.
Yamal being a BdO candidate has only been a thing since the past 2 months.
Worst I've seen him play. Everyone has an off day
Its certainly not overhype because how do you overhype this?
However Messi and Ronaldo werent putting in great performances and winning finals for their country's first team at 17 either. They both took some time. Yamal already has the euros banked
Its certainly not overhype because how do you overhype this?
However Messi and Ronaldo werent putting in great performances and winning finals for their country's first team at 17 either. They both took some time. Yamal already has the euros banked
17yo kid has the odd bad game after a long season where he was incredibly consistent, playing against the best LB in the world who's been on a godlike run. Shocking. Big bust.
I didn't mean he's literally as good as Peak Neymar right now (misworded it), moreso that he's on that level of a Neymar or similar type player that's ridiculously creative, unmatched as a dribbler, and extremely explosive and dynamic all while being very efficient in his actions/decision making, and to be at that level at 17 is pretty unheard of.
The actual peak Neymar was essentially a player who should have been the best in the world but played at the same time as two of the greatest the sport has ever seen. I've always thought Neymar is ridiculously underrated in history because people hated that he went to PSG and he was a bit of a diver (but also got kicked a shitload). I received pelters on here for suggesting he's above Ronaldinho as a national team player even though he carried that Brazil side basically by himself for a decade.
Love watching him play. Awesome player
He didn’t have a bad game yesterday per se, but relative to him usually looking peerless, he just looked like any other player on the pitch yesterday, which is an abnormality for him. His passing was still exceptional, but more in flashes than the constant stream we’ve become accustomed to.
Morally, you wonder if a 17-year old should be taking on even more load after the club season ends. I would love to know which other 17-year olds have played as many games in a season at the highest levels as he just has. You really have to hope this is not to the detriment of his career into the late 20’s, let alone 30’s.
Morally, you wonder if a 17-year old should be taking on even more load after the club season ends. I would love to know which other 17-year olds have played as many games in a season at the highest levels as he just has. You really have to hope this is not to the detriment of his career into the late 20’s, let alone 30’s.