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Lindelof vibes
Lindelof vibes

Van Dijk was still at Celtic at Yoros age, plenty of time to come good.I think we have to keep in mind that this kid is only 20.
That being said, we spent 50+ million on this kid with the thought that he was our future van Dijk and after nearly 60 matches played I've not seen much to suggest that he's going to be the world beater we anticipated.
Def needs to bulk up but he has barely played this season. Can you even consider him "match fit"?
He has 26 appearances. Significantly more than any other CB.
Bruno has 27.
He's making the same mistakes and struggling in the same aspects of play though, that's the worry. He has fantastic attributes, but he's also got some obvious weaknesses that are being brought to the forefront in this league.I'm surprised people are writing him off. We have seen how good he can be last season and one-off games this season. Inconsistency comes with being a young centre back, it's a position where experience is very important. His potential is massive, but there will be more tough matches for him the next couple of years. That's just the name of the game.
I am not worried at all.
Not buying it. Check fotmob for stats, he has 1300 minutes in the league this season.
So he has played over half of total minutes available in the league this season... #9 overall in minutes played at the club this season.
What do you consider "match fit" for a 20 year old?
Are you ranking him below Heaven? As Carrick doesn't seem to.It's easy to forget that Leny is still only 20 years old. For his age, his development at this stage is outstanding. But if we had to nitpick him it would be his lack of physicality in tight spaces. But for a fifth choice CB at the age of 20, he's an outstanding option for Carrick to turn to.
Are you ranking him below Heaven? As Carrick doesn't seem to.
Pointless to argue when you make up stats like 2nd in appearances behind Bruno. What do you think is match fit? He had one full 90 since Jan 17.
Right now, certainly. Heaven has been comfortably better for the last three or four months. However I do think that in the latter part of last season Yoro was playing at least as well, and probably a bit better.I rank Yoro below Heaven, but Carrick pulls rank on me. Yoro, who is 20, is a year older than Heaven, who is 19, but based on what we've seen so far if we found ourselves in a cup final and we had to choose between Yoro and Heaven to partner with Maguire, I would go with Heaven.
He had an excellent cameo against West Ham and so deserved to start the next game in Martinez absence in which we kept a clean sheet against Everton and he did pretty well. He made a mistake against Palace and struggled a bit but he settled down a lot as the game went on. I do agree that we miss Martinez though, particularly on the ballThink that he would have been better off kept out of the firing line for another while, he is clearly struggling. Hopefully Martinez is back very soon.
Yea, he had a couple of great blocks against West Ham. I still trust him alright in open spaces, but he just looks a bit lost when we are defending deeper at the moment. Hopefully he is learning anyway and isn't taking too many blows to his confidence along the way.He had an excellent cameo against West Ham and so deserved to start the next game in Martinez absence in which we kept a clean sheet against Everton and he did pretty well. He made a mistake against Palace and struggled a bit but he settled down a lot as the game went on. I do agree that we miss Martinez though, particularly on the ball
And when he gets stood up by tricky winger types. Very reactive defender at the moment.Yea, he had a couple of great blocks against West Ham. I still trust him alright in open spaces, but he just looks a bit lost when we are defending deeper at the moment. Hopefully he is learning anyway and isn't taking too many blows to his confidence along the way.
Are you ranking him below Heaven? As Carrick doesn't seem to.
Right now, certainly. Heaven has been comfortably better for the last three or four months. However I do think that in the latter part of last season Yoro was playing at least as well, and probably a bit better.
Hopefully they both keep improving and in a couple of years they establish themselves as the main combination.
The club spent a lot of money on Yoro. There is probably a certain amount of pressure on Carrick to give their investment a chance. I think Yoro does have a high ceiling but clearly still has a lot to improve on.I rank Yoro below Heaven, but Carrick pulls rank on me. Yoro, who is 20, is a year older than Heaven, who is 19, but based on what we've seen so far if we found ourselves in a cup final and we had to choose between Yoro and Heaven to partner with Maguire, I would go with Heaven.
(Not sure how the double quote popped up here!)
I highly rate both Yoro and Heaven, both still incredibly young to be featuring for a club like United and have put in some magnificent performances, as well as some poor performances. Yoro's one noticeable flaw is a lack of physicality and in a league where set pieces are such a huge part of opposing clubs' tactics, such as Arsenal, that's a flaw that needs to be rectified. Heaven doesn't have any obvious flaws per se, but just needs to continue developing into the outstanding CB I think at least he will become.
Yup cost us huge with that, though he was alright outside of that. Well at least not bad anyway, alright might be stretching it a bit.Piss poor effort with that header.
Definitely. Probably due to transfer fee which is a joke. I'm starting Heaven every day of the week and twice on a Sunday over Yoro.Still don't see why he's playing over Heaven.
In his games so far, Heaven has proven more aggressive, stronger, and better on the ball. At this stage, his qualities should outweigh Yoro.
The club spent a lot of money on Yoro. There is probably a certain amount of pressure on Carrick to give their investment a chance. I think Yoro does have a high ceiling but clearly still has a lot to improve on.
Not the mess with Amorim?That missed header is what we look back to if we finish 6th. Huge huge miss