Way too soon. He’s had his poor moments but also shown real quality for us. For me, he’s an ideal backup CB at this moment. It would help for our big young talents to be surrounded by better experienced players too.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
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Loan.
He continues to struggle.
I don't think we did any favours pairing him up with Martinez against Calvert-Lewin, poor tactics/team selection IMO. Heaven would have made a lot more sense to me.
Thought it was a game of two halves. Abysmal in the first, but quite good in the second. He is very young but for me the talent is so clear that its worth sticking with him.
This is silly. He’s shown a lot of potential for us already. He may not be ready to be first choice but he’s clearly got a lot of excellent qualities. DCL got away with a lot of nonsense yesterday. But his arm in Yoro’s face for the opener, for one.
He looks weak, not just physically
Yeah, and he’s not a great passer of the ball either IMO.
Exactly. Not much more to be said. He is easy to fluster without guidance and cover, but that’s where your backline is supposed to protect young players, not exacerbate the problem.
He was extremely careless yesterday. Did my head in. And yes as has been mentioned: put the lad on steaks and creatine and send him to the gym to do some heavy lifting.
Needs a loan. But sadly our senior three CBs are not reliable. Maguire is getting old, and he definitely will not be able to play two games a week next season. De Ligt and Martinez are crocks. You sign someone like Yoro when you have two reliable guys in front of him, we banked on Martinez and De Ligt being those guys and it’s not worked.
Genuinely - when has he shown this potential, and what are his excellent qualities?
I want Yoro to become world class, and show me wrong but I'm just not seeing it.
When didn't he just go down for the first goal? This is ruled out if he does and VAR actually looks at it. He's another low IQ player.
Yep hard agree from me, Heaven has looked way more promising to me if not a little bit more raw
He’s got to sharpen up.
I’ve heard and read that he has a preference to play on the left side, and in my head it does tie in with his better performances for us (mainly under Amorim last year in the EL run).
As of today all I’m seeing is someone who is weak, nervous, poor in duels, incapable of playing incisive passes, hasn’t got the redeeming raw pace needed and often needs to slide in order to win the ball. To be compared to Rio and have that said about you doesn’t add up.
He’s definitely one who needs to work on his physique to play in that position as a starting point. I’m not sure if he was deemed to be a ball playing centre back or if he’s struggling with the poor immobile midfield in front, but he needs to buck his ideas up fast, or that dream Madrid move won’t happen!
I’ve heard and read that he has a preference to play on the left side, and in my head it does tie in with his better performances for us (mainly under Amorim last year in the EL run).
As of today all I’m seeing is someone who is weak, nervous, poor in duels, incapable of playing incisive passes, hasn’t got the redeeming raw pace needed and often needs to slide in order to win the ball. To be compared to Rio and have that said about you doesn’t add up.
He’s definitely one who needs to work on his physique to play in that position as a starting point. I’m not sure if he was deemed to be a ball playing centre back or if he’s struggling with the poor immobile midfield in front, but he needs to buck his ideas up fast, or that dream Madrid move won’t happen!
You're right he's young and definitely for a CB, but if he's not aggressive enough then he should be loaned sent to gym etc.. He jsut played next to a leader like Martinez and it didnt work out for him. Needs to take responsibilities. He also played next to Maguire and De Light and these are also leaders. You cant be the weak link all the time.
I am sure he iwll become decent player, defo better than the likes of Lindelof but he needs tot work extra hard to takte the next step.
I dounno there is something about his built that doesnt strike ma a top level prospect, he's very slight and doesnt tackle hard enough or uses aggression as other defenders. It can be understandable now he's 20 but then he cant play at the top level yet.
Exactly. A smarter player would’ve got the foul.
Looks scared, he is on bad form and could use a spell on the bench. We probably can't afford him that though.
Looks like he needs a coming of age loan where he plays pretty much every game.
Needs to toughen up. If he's not going to toughen up he needs to play smarter, if he's going to be bullied make a big enough fuss to make it obvious you're being fouled.
That's how I feel about it too, he was not supposed to be playing this much and there are growing pains here, but this is very valuable learning for the young man, I am still confident he'll come good.
Martinez was the anthesis of a leader last night. A regular partner would do him wonders. There seems to be so little communication.
Ideally you'd want him beside Maguire every week. Someone who is a leader and who does the basics well to give him that PL guile and leadership.
He was up against an old pro last night in calvert-lewin and his use of the dark arts. Hopefully Yoro learned from this
good learning experience for him
next time im hoping he's holding his face screaming in pain
next time im hoping he's holding his face screaming in pain
I know he's young and everything but I don't really see it with him unfortunately.
Just looks gangly and clumsy to me. Hope I'm wrong.
Just looks gangly and clumsy to me. Hope I'm wrong.
Needs a few weeks this summer working daily with Rio
Last night he fell victim to substandard officiating - and Dominic-Flying-Elbow or whatever his name is...of course he should be stronger but that was bad from the man in black.
Generally, the issue is how near to being the finished article is Yoro? Nowhere near, clearly. His presence / strength, passing and focus all need work but should improve in time.
Ideally, United will have Yoro & Heaven as the 3rd & 4th CB option with Maguire & a new elite level CB going forward. Martinez & de Ligt have both had very good spells this season but both are very injury prone which makes the back four terribly unsettled - arguably the worst thing that can happen to a team. United need to get this right as along with midfield, it is becoming a major issue.
Strength in numbers is needed if Europe beckons, not strength in the physio room. Mazraoui, Shaw, de Ligt & Martinez is an entire back four of oft-injured talent. That needs to change, ideally with a few outgoings and incomings.
Generally, the issue is how near to being the finished article is Yoro? Nowhere near, clearly. His presence / strength, passing and focus all need work but should improve in time.
Ideally, United will have Yoro & Heaven as the 3rd & 4th CB option with Maguire & a new elite level CB going forward. Martinez & de Ligt have both had very good spells this season but both are very injury prone which makes the back four terribly unsettled - arguably the worst thing that can happen to a team. United need to get this right as along with midfield, it is becoming a major issue.
Strength in numbers is needed if Europe beckons, not strength in the physio room. Mazraoui, Shaw, de Ligt & Martinez is an entire back four of oft-injured talent. That needs to change, ideally with a few outgoings and incomings.
I agree with you, he’s obviously a nice lad but you get the impression he’s really not all that, he’s supposed to be quick but I don’t see it, he’s awful on the ball and lacks physicality, he’s just not going to make it here and this why buying players too young is a strategy that just won’t work in the mid to long term?
Yoro did show enough last season though. He was fairly solid for most of it, and downright good for the final few months. Overall it was quite a good debut season considering his age.
Obviously he's struggled this season though. Unless Heaven has been poor in training I really don't see any good reason why Yoro has been getting picked ahead of him. Heaven himself was dropped at the start of the season as he was performing poorly, but since coming back in he's been comfortably better. Now obviously that was in a back three so maybe it would be different in a back four, but Yoro really should be getting the same treatment and dropped for a while while Heaven gets his chance.
He had a mixed game, unfortunately he was involved in both the two goals so I understand why hes getting some criticism. I just feel like it was more like 60% bad and 40% good - he had several good clearances and pieces of good defending too. Unless blind you can see that there is a good young defender in him, but those lapses ultimately meant it was a subpar performance. He did win the ball more than Martinez while he was on the pitch and I'd argue that Maz and Shaw had just as many problems and they arent 20 years old lacking experience. He's had much worse games than that
He played in a back 3 though. RCB in a back 3 is completely different to being an actual CB in a back 4. He did fine last year without really standing out in any quality that counts for an actual CB. That's the issue with him. He doesn't have some great pace, he's not big and strong, he's not dominant on headers, he's average at best on the ball, he's not really an aggressive player.
Lindelof is honestly the best comparison to him at CB. Lindelof was extremely highly rated as a young CB at Benfica. But he had the same issues. Decent reading the game and average at best for everything else, what potential does he really have in this league?
If he cost £20 million as a young prospect, these type of performances would be easier to accept. But £50 million plus can buy you a lot of quality premier league central defenders that would do a far better job than Leny at the moment.
Spending that money on Yoro is a joke. He's rubbish. You can see that. He plays like an Academy player. He is nowhere near what we need. No other club would pay £50m plus for him.
A complete joke. The kid is a bag of nerves.
Yup, a 50m CB should get you a world class talent or an established proven CB. Yoro is neither.
He's only 20 but wow he makes every single match such an ordeal. He's finding this league very difficult to adjust to.
I think Leny Yoro’s issue is more mental than physical. He’s got the tools. Just needs to impose himself more and show that presence defensively.
No he's a much better athlete than Lindelof.
He is a big lad. Remember he's 20, he hasn't filled out yet. He's much quicker than Lindelof as well.
But he's likely 4 years away from being ready. That's the reality of signing teenage CB's.
Damn - potentially out for the season.
Christ