Let's not buy Raiola players again - ever
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Because we may be in shit state but we are still United and we are nobody's "stepping stone" or player farm.
I am not sure why people think Dortmund is either, to be honest. Don't really remember ton of players who stepped on Dortmund and then had their career skyrocket. Sure didnt happen for Mkhitarian
That's the point of their double act. SAF was onto what Pogba's personality type was.
Whenever it gets you down, just imagine Romero's interactions with Raiola. "Sergio, it's time for renego-" "If you say one bad word about my club in public you will never be able to say another word again." "Yes, Sergio."
Then dont complain. What's the fuss? You cant say you're united then cursing halaand because he choose dortmund.
All said and done we cant give the boy what he wants, we can pretend we're the dogs bollocks but halaand didnt think so.
Time to fix ourselves up and get back on our throne.
Badmouthing halaand and raiola only shows we're a petty club.
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Just a reminder of what a twat Raiola is, I mean Sir Alex had to say it in his face twice just to reiterate that fact.
We need to drop De Gea and let that sweet man Sergio finally become a starting goalkeeper. But it won't ever happen because they just started paying De Gea 400K/week so he is now unbenchable. So we will need to keep seeing him feck up in every other game
Nobody is cursing Haaland. He can choose whatever he wants, good riddance, as far as I am concerned.
As for Raiola, much better men than me have called him out about being a pig of a agent, namely: SAF, so I like the company I am in there, thank you very much
Is it true Klopp refuses to deal with him? I've seen that a few times.
Not to take anything away from his legacy, but when you consider that Juve apparently was willing to present a contract worthy of Raiola's Chihuahuas, got the player on a free, had him as a regular starter within a couple of months and got four good years out of him before selling him back to United for a record fee, maybe there is a tiny chance that SAF got it wrong in this instance and Raiola had a better idea of Pogba's worth?
Pogba has proven absolutely nothing of SAF being wrong. He's been inconsistent or not fit when needed and fans have always been finding excuses for him (play him in this position, put this sort of player beside him etc etc). Fans wouldn't need to find excuses for him if he was performing well consistently. That's not to say he's not our most talented player but it's saying he's not been good enough consistently to warrant his pay check.
I promise you, for as long as I live, I will never deal with Raiola
I promise you, for as long as I live, I will never deal with Raiola
If you want quality players you must work with fickle agents. Jose had his flaws, but he had absolutely no problems with handling Mino. Zlatan even said he'll break Raiola's legs if Pogba fail to join Man United.
Heard an interesting take on why Raiola is mouthing off these past few days! Basically Haaland wanted to sign for United but we refused to pay Raiolas extortionate demands and thus pulled out! Mino’s pride has been hurt and so he’s hitting back like a toddler!
Probably bollocks but an interesting take on the situation
Probably bollocks but an interesting take on the situation
Won't be surprised if that s true.
What are the chances Raiola wanted a Haaland-deal to include United lowering the fee for Pogba and selling him?
He doesn't kidnap his clients
I agree - there must be something in this - as it’s amazing that he has started spouting his mouth off so publically so soon after the Haaland deal - it was all quiet before then - it’s just a ploy now to get everyone to turn against Pogba to enable him to leave easier and cheaper.....
I’m glad we told him to poke it - I hope others do the same - I’m sure a lot of clubs will be wary of dealing with him now......
Of course
Not so much 'we' here. This is the MUFC board we are talking about, the *owners and the thing who passes for a CEO
What are you talking about? Fair and square? This is a footballing agent, this is what he does. Moves with big money are his stock in trade
Wrong. With Raiola his priority, it could be argued is to himself. Don't let any out of control ego football player think he is at the centre of Raiolas world
Yikes! So now you/"we"/us have become Raiola, with some kind of 1970's attitude to women?
You might have bothered to put the name of your fat ugly hero in capitals, though.
And we or you or they paid him 15m in cold hard cash, the fat ugly pig
Sounds like slavery in Spartacus series. Not a surprise Raiola migth be a decendant of Claudius Glaber or just a gifted negotiator.
I think this Raiola situation may be a curse from Pogba's old club in France, because several report that we played dirty at them to get Pogba. We could have had a transfer ban like Barca and Chelsea, luckily the rules were not existed yet.
I would happily never sign a Raiola player again. It’s a pointless exercise. You pay an inflated fee, get them for two years and then then they unsettle the squad and the fans as they are touted around every club in Europe
Absolute circus and he is the chief clown. Waste of time
Absolute circus and he is the chief clown. Waste of time
Non existent. There’s a thing called privity of contract. It would merely be a gentlmens agreement...
More than likely exactly what happened. He’d have got nothing out of Redbull so his pay day is when Haaland makes his next move.
There has been started wars over gentlemen's agreements before.
We knew this though. We dealt with this guy before... the club dealt with him before. It just shows what a farce we are now.
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Thankfully the legal system works far more rationally. You don’t enter into gentlmens agreements over millions. Stupidity at its highest if you do
Fergie never doubted Pogba as a player. He questioned whether he'd be a proper professional, being guided by Raiola...SAF was absolutely correct.
A lot of butthurt people in here.
Just get over it, Mino's not the devil and he's not always moving his clients. Pogba's been at two clubs in his entire career, Veratti has been at PSG forever now, for every bad example there's a good one. He's not some puppet master who decides for his clients what they're going to do. He's an agent so by definition he's going to be a pain in the ass for clubs at times, but some on here are acting as if players like Zlatan or Pogba are just checking in with Master Mino to find out what they have to do next in their career.
If a player is looking to move, it's not because of Raiola, it's because of the player and most likely the club as well not doing a good job of being an attractive place to stay in. It's not that long ago that he said Pogba wanted to stay at United, but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone of his talent would if United don't make some serious investments.
Pogba is a model professional, a world cup winner, and your best player by a country mile. Get the red-tinted glasses off and breath in that dose of reality. The revisionist history on the Pogba saga is so boring at this point, I will be reading it at night to help deal with my insomnia. You'd think we're talking about a Ronaldinho there, or a Hatem Ben Arfa. Pogba is one of the best personalities you can have at your club. Doesn't party, doesn't drink, barely heard a peep of him in social media while he was out injured, and he's loved by every teammates he's ever had, never in the news for troubles with the law, or women, or anything really outside of the nonsense media rumors.
It's really shameful how some portray your best player.
Just get over it, Mino's not the devil and he's not always moving his clients. Pogba's been at two clubs in his entire career, Veratti has been at PSG forever now, for every bad example there's a good one. He's not some puppet master who decides for his clients what they're going to do. He's an agent so by definition he's going to be a pain in the ass for clubs at times, but some on here are acting as if players like Zlatan or Pogba are just checking in with Master Mino to find out what they have to do next in their career.
If a player is looking to move, it's not because of Raiola, it's because of the player and most likely the club as well not doing a good job of being an attractive place to stay in. It's not that long ago that he said Pogba wanted to stay at United, but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone of his talent would if United don't make some serious investments.
SAF was wrong, get over it, everybody makes mistake even if this was a world-record expensive one.
Pogba is a model professional, a world cup winner, and your best player by a country mile. Get the red-tinted glasses off and breath in that dose of reality. The revisionist history on the Pogba saga is so boring at this point, I will be reading it at night to help deal with my insomnia. You'd think we're talking about a Ronaldinho there, or a Hatem Ben Arfa. Pogba is one of the best personalities you can have at your club. Doesn't party, doesn't drink, barely heard a peep of him in social media while he was out injured, and he's loved by every teammates he's ever had, never in the news for troubles with the law, or women, or anything really outside of the nonsense media rumors.
It's really shameful how some portray your best player.
What are you talking about? Did you actually read my post? Just because Pogba doesn't smoke or do all the other things you said, does that take away from my comment? No it doesn't. How he spoke in the summer about moving away from us, is that professional? Him not telling his agent to shut the f up, is that professional? Him showing a lack of commitment to his club (not mentioning him as a mufc player on any of his social media) by jetting off around the world whilst rehabilitating this so called injury of his.A lot of butthurt people in here.
Just get over it, Mino's not the devil and he's not always moving his clients. Pogba's been at two clubs in his entire career, Veratti has been at PSG forever now, for every bad example there's a good one. He's not some puppet master who decides for his clients what they're going to do. He's an agent so by definition he's going to be a pain in the ass for clubs at times, but some on here are acting as if players like Zlatan or Pogba are just checking in with Master Mino to find out what they have to do next in their career.
If a player is looking to move, it's not because of Raiola, it's because of the player and most likely the club as well not doing a good job of being an attractive place to stay in. It's not that long ago that he said Pogba wanted to stay at United, but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone of his talent would if United don't make some serious investments.
SAF was wrong, get over it, everybody makes mistake even if this was a world-record expensive one.
Pogba is a model professional, a world cup winner, and your best player by a country mile. Get the red-tinted glasses off and breath in that dose of reality. The revisionist history on the Pogba saga is so boring at this point, I will be reading it at night to help deal with my insomnia. You'd think we're talking about a Ronaldinho there, or a Hatem Ben Arfa. Pogba is one of the best personalities you can have at your club. Doesn't party, doesn't drink, barely heard a peep of him in social media while he was out injured, and he's loved by every teammates he's ever had, never in the news for troubles with the law, or women, or anything really outside of the nonsense media rumors.
It's really shameful how some portray your best player.
No it's not. So SAF was correct on this occasion. SAF was wrong many a time at his tenure at United, of course he was, but he wasn't wrong about Raiola and his impact on Pogba!
SAF was right.A lot of butthurt people in here.
Just get over it, Mino's not the devil and he's not always moving his clients. Pogba's been at two clubs in his entire career, Veratti has been at PSG forever now, for every bad example there's a good one. He's not some puppet master who decides for his clients what they're going to do. He's an agent so by definition he's going to be a pain in the ass for clubs at times, but some on here are acting as if players like Zlatan or Pogba are just checking in with Master Mino to find out what they have to do next in their career.
If a player is looking to move, it's not because of Raiola, it's because of the player and most likely the club as well not doing a good job of being an attractive place to stay in. It's not that long ago that he said Pogba wanted to stay at United, but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone of his talent would if United don't make some serious investments.
SAF was wrong, get over it, everybody makes mistake even if this was a world-record expensive one.
Pogba is a model professional, a world cup winner, and your best player by a country mile. Get the red-tinted glasses off and breath in that dose of reality. The revisionist history on the Pogba saga is so boring at this point, I will be reading it at night to help deal with my insomnia. You'd think we're talking about a Ronaldinho there, or a Hatem Ben Arfa. Pogba is one of the best personalities you can have at your club. Doesn't party, doesn't drink, barely heard a peep of him in social media while he was out injured, and he's loved by every teammates he's ever had, never in the news for troubles with the law, or women, or anything really outside of the nonsense media rumors.
It's really shameful how some portray your best player.
It just amazes me how people pay attention to what he says regarding football.
I know footballers are not the smartest and they probably keep their mouth shut when it comes to dealing with clubs as their agent will tell them if they listen to them they will have riches beyond their dreams and who can blame them.
I do have an issue however how an athlete cannot honour a contract once it is signed and giving their best to their employer for the duration and that tends to show the character of the individual.
I know footballers are not the smartest and they probably keep their mouth shut when it comes to dealing with clubs as their agent will tell them if they listen to them they will have riches beyond their dreams and who can blame them.
I do have an issue however how an athlete cannot honour a contract once it is signed and giving their best to their employer for the duration and that tends to show the character of the individual.
So you think someone should honour a contract with an employer who has not honoured the promises made to get them to sign a contract?
This isnt related to Pogba by the way, just in general. Clubs make all sorts of promises about their project, if they are not met a player has every right to want to leave, contract or not
The contract will entail what is expected of the individual for the duration of the contract and the amount he will be paid, image rights and everything that goes with it
I expect both parties to honour that contract.
Haha...the only people whose butt should be hurt are that fat pig and his puppets. The fat feck has no business in foul mouthing our club. He talked out of turn and unprovoked and so he will have to deal with the vitriol that follows. And because you are defending Raiola let me ask you this: why is he ranting against United now? Is it because we refused to butter his bread in the Haaland deal? Or is it because we are blocking his pay day on the Pogba to Madrid deal? You say Pogba is a model professional. When this said model professional openly courted a move to Real, new challenge and all that, had "chance" meeting with Zidane etc. has our club ever uttered a word against his behaviour. Pogba is cunning, whether it's his own brain at work or that of the snake Raiola only time will tell. And yes, Pogba has been erratic for United at best. If he was really a model pro and a true world class footballer he would have taken the challenge of improving us by the scruff of the neck instead of downing tools and courting other clubs. Instead of ranting, the fatso could have asked his player to put in an official transfer request. But no. Why take the decent path right? I hope he chokes on his own lard.A lot of butthurt people in here.
Just get over it, Mino's not the devil and he's not always moving his clients. Pogba's been at two clubs in his entire career, Veratti has been at PSG forever now, for every bad example there's a good one. He's not some puppet master who decides for his clients what they're going to do. He's an agent so by definition he's going to be a pain in the ass for clubs at times, but some on here are acting as if players like Zlatan or Pogba are just checking in with Master Mino to find out what they have to do next in their career.
If a player is looking to move, it's not because of Raiola, it's because of the player and most likely the club as well not doing a good job of being an attractive place to stay in. It's not that long ago that he said Pogba wanted to stay at United, but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone of his talent would if United don't make some serious investments.
SAF was wrong, get over it, everybody makes mistake even if this was a world-record expensive one.
Pogba is a model professional, a world cup winner, and your best player by a country mile. Get the red-tinted glasses off and breath in that dose of reality. The revisionist history on the Pogba saga is so boring at this point, I will be reading it at night to help deal with my insomnia. You'd think we're talking about a Ronaldinho there, or a Hatem Ben Arfa. Pogba is one of the best personalities you can have at your club. Doesn't party, doesn't drink, barely heard a peep of him in social media while he was out injured, and he's loved by every teammates he's ever had, never in the news for troubles with the law, or women, or anything really outside of the nonsense media rumors.
It's really shameful how some portray your best player.
I like this post and agree wholeheartedly, do the right thing Pogba, hand in a transfer request and take yourself and that fat cnut away from our club.
Still missing the point