Let's talk 'keepers: who do we buy and why?

Either:
- a young GK like Lammens, Chevalier, Atubolu, Bulka, Hermansen
- an experienced stop-gap like Koen Casteels (Saudi league)
- sign Petrovic from Chelsea (apparently on their list because they want Maignan)

IF we don't sign a new GK this summer, then we could go for a bit more expensive, young GK next season like:
- Bart Verbruggen
- Mile Svilar
- James Trafford

What do you think?
 
aeh1991 said:
Either:
- a young GK like Lammens, Chevalier, Atubolu, Bulka, Hermansen
- an experienced stop-gap like Koen Casteels (Saudi league)
- sign Petrovic from Chelsea (apparently on their list because they want Maignan)

IF we don't sign a new GK this summer, then we could go for a bit more expensive, young GK next season like:
- Bart Verbruggen
- Mile Svilar
- James Trafford

What do you think?
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If it was my choice I would go after Chevalier or Lammens and pull the ripcord on Onana.

But we need to improve our midfield and attack, so it really comes down to how well we sell.
 
aeh1991 said:
Either:
- a young GK like Lammens, Chevalier, Atubolu, Bulka, Hermansen
- an experienced stop-gap like Koen Casteels (Saudi league)
- sign Petrovic from Chelsea (apparently on their list because they want Maignan)

IF we don't sign a new GK this summer, then we could go for a bit more expensive, young GK next season like:
- Bart Verbruggen
- Mile Svilar
- James Trafford

What do you think?
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Don't think he's anywhere near good enough and very prone to clangers
 
Not even seen us linked with many keepers. Who are the main ones we’re looking at?
 
aeh1991 said:
10m is disrespectful! We should make a sneaky 20m bid
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For 20-30m fee for Maignan you have to make a move and then get Onana a Saudi deal. Then sell Bayandir and give the 2 position to Vitek. You then have a year to assess him and if Vitek is not up to scratch, can sell him next year.

Maignan is a better keeper than Onana and if we can sell Onana for a fee that makes us PSR compliant, we have to make the upgrade.
 
Marc-André ter Stegen is the obvious choice for me. 33 years old and experienced. I don’t doubt he can still be one of the best goalkeepers in the world, despite being out of favour at Barcelona. Sometimes a new challenge is required for a return to form. Look at De Gea now…

I think it could be an Edwin van der Sar type move. This group needs an injection of calmness and leadership, especially at the back. A young project is not the answer right now.
 
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Lammens stands out to me as my clear choice, 6'4, 22 years of age and could have the role for the next 10 years plus, obviously would prefer to have had him whilst we still had De Gea in goal or someone he could learn from/compete with but can't stand the idea of Onana in goal again next year unless financially we have no other choice.
 
Kingslayer18 said:
For 20-30m fee for Maignan you have to make a move and then get Onana a Saudi deal. Then sell Bayandir and give the 2 position to Vitek. You then have a year to assess him and if Vitek is not up to scratch, can sell him next year.

Maignan is a better keeper than Onana and if we can sell Onana for a fee that makes us PSR compliant, we have to make the upgrade.
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Maybe Milan would even consider a swap?
 
I believe the scenario would be to sell Bayındır and get a new GK to be capable of competing for No.1 spot.
And if that happens, Onana would be sitting on a bench.
 
Kingslayer18 said:
For 20-30m fee for Maignan you have to make a move and then get Onana a Saudi deal. Then sell Bayandir and give the 2 position to Vitek. You then have a year to assess him and if Vitek is not up to scratch, can sell him next year.

Maignan is a better keeper than Onana and if we can sell Onana for a fee that makes us PSR compliant, we have to make the upgrade.
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Where does this idea that we can send him off to SA for a great fee come from?

I suppose as the league has oversight they could buy him for laughs?

As stated earlier or another thread the most they have ever paid for a goalkeeper is circa €13.
 
With the state of the goalkeeping options I dont think we should be overly picky on Maignan or Martinez. Either player is a good age, plenty of experience and a no 1 for a major international team. Move quickly and take the cheapest option, then sort out the ST and CM.

20m euros for Maignan is an absolute steal.
 
Why can't our scouts unearth a gem somewhere? Need them to step up now more than ever .

Can't believe Onana turned out so bad.
 
Getting rid of Onana could be (no, will be) troublesome in the typical United sense:

He's on very decent money for a keeper. There aren't that many potential buyers who could easily match his current wages at United. And those potential buyers won't be buying an obviously attractive player - quite to the contrary, they'll be buying a player United actively want to get rid of (because he's a flop, basically).

Why would a top club (that can afford it) be interested in Onana (a flop on a big salary - relatively speaking)?

His contract doesn't expire until 2028 (unless I'm mistaken). And he is among the best paid goal keepers in the world (if he isn't top 10, he's not far off - according to all sources I've seen).
 
RedRocket9908 said:
I dont know why anyone would want us to waste money on Ter Stegen at this point, he isnt out of favor at Barca and their fans apparently want him gone because he is terrible
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Exactly and they are signing a keeper to replace him while he isn’t injured.
 
Smudger22587 said:
Lammens stands out to me as my clear choice, 6'4, 22 years of age and could have the role for the next 10 years plus, obviously would prefer to have had him whilst we still had De Gea in goal or someone he could learn from/compete with but can't stand the idea of Onana in goal again next year unless financially we have no other choice.
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Yes.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Getting rid of Onana could be (no, will be) troublesome in the typical United sense:

He's on very decent money for a keeper. There aren't that many potential buyers who could easily match his current wages at United. And those potential buyers won't be buying an obviously attractive player - quite to the contrary, they'll be buying a player United actively want to get rid of (because he's a flop, basically).

Why would a top club (that can afford it) be interested in Onana (a flop on a big salary - relatively speaking)?

His contract doesn't expire until 2028 (unless I'm mistaken). And he is among the best paid goal keepers in the world (if he isn't top 10, he's not far off - according to all sources I've seen).
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Onana is currently on 120k per week which isnt that bad compared to some of the other big clubs keepers
 
RedRocket9908 said:
Onana is currently on 120k per week which isnt that bad compared to some of the other big clubs keepers
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That seems like a plausible ballpark number - yes.

But at 120k per week he is - like I said - pretty close to being in the top 10 for keepers (in the world).

More importantly, though - surely no big club is in the market for Onana (why would they be?).

The question, then, is this: how many clubs who might be in the market for him could match his current wages?

(The wages in themselves aren't insane - but they are very high for a keeper, relatively speaking. And the keeper in question isn't very attractive. Onana's reputation is pretty shite at the moment, let's be honest.)
 
Chesterlestreet said:
That seems like a plausible ballpark number - yes.

But at 120k per week he is - like I said - pretty close to being in the top 10 for keepers (in the world).

More importantly, though - surely no big club is in the market for Onana (why would they be?).

The question, then, is this: how many clubs who might be in the market for him could match his current wages?

(The wages in themselves aren't insane - but they are very high for a keeper, relatively speaking. And the keeper in question isn't very attractive. Onana's reputation is pretty shite at the moment, let's be honest.)
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Saudi, that's pretty small fry wages for them.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
That seems like a plausible ballpark number - yes.

But at 120k per week he is - like I said - pretty close to being in the top 10 for keepers (in the world).

More importantly, though - surely no big club is in the market for Onana (why would they be?).

The question, then, is this: how many clubs who might be in the market for him could match his current wages?

(The wages in themselves aren't insane - but they are very high for a keeper, relatively speaking. And the keeper in question isn't very attractive. Onana's reputation is pretty shite at the moment, let's be honest.)
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No top club is buying him.

No PL would even contemplate touching him. No club with aspirations of CL would go near him.

How low would you have to go in terms of quality? Turkey?

Unlike an outfield player who can pull out occasional moments of magic - a goalkeeper who is fundamentally so bad is of no use to anyone.

Maignan is French no 1 and currently on circa £50-60k per week.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
Would a shite moneybags team want him? Or would they not just buy a better keeper?
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Good question. I have no idea, honestly. What's the actual recruitment philosophy of shite moneybags teams in Saudi Arabia? Onana is - if nothing else - an almost infamous figure at this point. Perhaps that is considered a plus. An infamous, unpredictable, frequently calamitous keeper may be preferable to a unknown, half decent (but dull) one.
 
Gregor Kobel (27) @ Dortmund would be my first choice as our new number 1 goalkeeper.. Young English keepers who are worth a look at are James Trafford @ Burnley (22) and Sam Tickle @ Wigan (23) as a possible number 2... However one of the top rated young keepers in Europe is Lucas Chevalier @ Lille (23).. I think we should take a serious look at him also as being a contender for our number 1 keeper... Cheers
 
I still think we should go for Espanyols keeper. But I think we should also play games with Villa and show interest in the Lille keeper who they want to replace Martinez. It may make them put Martinez price down.
 
DJ_21 said:
I still think we should go for Espanyols keeper. But I think we should also play games with Villa and show interest in the Lille keeper who they want to replace Martinez. It may make them put Martinez price down.
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He's pretty much confirmed to go to Barcelona
 
It's going to be very difficult to bring in our new long-term goalkeeper this summer. We need a capable stopgap. I think we might be lucky enough to take advantage of Villa's PSR hole and bring in Martinez for an inexpensive fee.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
It's going to be very difficult to bring in our new long-term goalkeeper this summer. We need a capable stopgap. I think we might be lucky enough to take advantage of Villa's PSR hole and bring in Martinez for an inexpensive fee.
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What would you define as inexpensive then?
 
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