Diogo Costa for me
Let's talk 'keepers: who do we buy and why?
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
Wouldn't mind Ter Stegen, if it's true his wages are only 100k then that's a ridiculously low cost for a keeper of his quality.
He'll have a chip on his shoulder for being pushed out of Barca and would want to try and prove himself again.
He'll have a chip on his shoulder for being pushed out of Barca and would want to try and prove himself again.
Anything is better than Onana, especially Ter Stegen. He was one of the best players of Barcelona before his injury. He's experienced GK and for 10 million euros he would be a complete bargain.
Your analysis is completely flawed. It would only work if Goalkeepeers cost the same as strikers, and the scarcity of players in those positions was the same.
The reality is that we can significantly improve a key position (goalkeeper) for £15m. Whereas as striker will cost significantly more.
Furthermore the reality is that this is not an either/ or scenario. Given the sheer number of goalkeepers we could buy for a small capital outlay means that buying a new keeper is essential and will not have an effect on other purchases.
Duncan Castles saying on his Transfers podcast that if Donnarumma doesn't agree a new deal with PSG this summer. They will sell him before the window closes. They will not allow him to leave on a free next summer. Apparently they have learnt their lesson from mbappe.
Donnarumma won't be short of options. Only issue his wages are €10mil net a season with PSG.
Donnarumma won't be short of options. Only issue his wages are €10mil net a season with PSG.
I agree. A solid but unspectacular keeper would be an upgrade on Onana and Bayindir. Not sure if there are any clubs in the league that would swap their first choice for Onana. If there are, you could count them on one hand.
The other thing, apart from the fee, is wages. A 15 goal striker is £100kpw minimum, probably £150kpw plus. Could get a better keeper than Onana for just over minimum wage, I reckon.
Tbh I considered this but don’t think your core assumption is true - which is that it’s easy to find an affordable keeper who will perform better HERE than Onana
Let’s not forget the lesson from the six years between Schmikes and VDS: solid keepers wither under the pressure of United. Maybe more than any other role, the keeper position is psychological - all about confidence and mentality
I think there are any number of keepers we’d say are better than Onana today who would flop here.
I will say you’re probably right that we should just get on the keeper merry-go-round now, until we find one that sticks. But I don’t share your confidence that we’ll quickly find a keeper who will perform well for us
Edit: And in case anyone is forgetting, we had to pay a British record fee for a GK to immediately get DDG after VDS retired. In other words, high-confidence of success ain’t cheap.
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Yeah does feel like we might be on a keeper merry go round again, just can't be for six years this time
I think the mental side of things is key, and to an extent you don’t know how a player will react.
I would also argue that we are in a position that getting in someone for a couple of years is absolutely fine, we don’t need to find the best or a keeper for the long term - we just need improvement. Actually VDS was that type of signing - he was a stop gap, and then he confounded everyone with how long he stayed and at such a top level. There is of course, no chance of replicating that - but we didn’t buy him expecting him to play for 6 years.
Lastly, it’s probably the least pressure any keeper will ever have in joining the club. Expectations are low, they are replacing the worst keeper we’ve had in 50 years and there won’t be many high pressure games as not in Europe.
You have a world class keeper for 10 years so will end up being cheap.
They didnt tweet about it but l'equipe announced that Nice has accepted an offer from Neom for Marcin Bułka. The player is now considering the offer.
https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...che-de-rejoindre-neom-arabie-saoudite/1573999
https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...che-de-rejoindre-neom-arabie-saoudite/1573999
Very true, however wouldn't want to come here
Joan Garcia was my first choice but since Barca got him, my next pick is Diogo Costa.
Sunderland are in for him as well according to Fabrizio
Yea it is mentioned in the article that Sunderland has not been able to find an agreement with Lyon yet, unlike Neom. Of course it's up to the player eventually who could very well prefer Sunderland to the Saudi league. Nice wants €20M apparently, but Neom has also made a €15M offer for Lucas Perri from Lyon.
If you can shift Onana then I suppose Costa makes some sense. Just never really been all that impressed with him. Most the people that push for him are the same people that wanted DeGea out as Onana would be transformative. So I’m a little skeptical.
If we can’t shift Onana then sell Bayinder and go for that John Victor or something,if he’s 10mil. If he can shift Onana great, if not could still likely sell him on at a profit as long as he isn’t absolute dog turd.
Then look at keepers again next season.
If we can’t shift Onana then sell Bayinder and go for that John Victor or something,if he’s 10mil. If he can shift Onana great, if not could still likely sell him on at a profit as long as he isn’t absolute dog turd.
Then look at keepers again next season.
I believe Costa has clangers in him also, so he wouldn't be the saviour everyone is hoping for. Just be a slightly better Onana.
Think everytime I’ve watched him he has made an error but he seems quite highly rated so he must have something about him.
Maybe by some miracle Onana can actually sustain his early season form from last season as if I remember correctly he started out ok then progressively got worse.
He's going to cost a fortune though. He's my no. 1 pick but we can't afford spending that amount on a goalkeeper, especially because we need a world class striker in our team. I would rather sign Gyokeres than sign Costa.
Buy Ter Stegen for 10 million euros and spend a lot on Mbeumo and Gyokeres. It seems that we're gonna have a hard time selling the likes of Sancho, Antony, Rashford etc. Our main priority is a striker and that should be our main focus.
I keep hearing Costa but i have watched him twice once against Morocco in the world cup and then against us Porto away both times he looked awful and goals were due to his mistakes. With Onana i was fooled in to thinking that having a great sweeper keeper and somebody can play with its feat will transform our style of play. But having learned the lesson the hard way, I hope we go for a big and strong keeper who is a great shot stopper, and good at crosses and corners, even if he is okayish at passing it should work fine as well because 80% of teams never press the keeper anyway and starts their press with defenders and midfielders.
Among the goalkeepers I’d love to see at Manchester United, one is Diogo Costa. He’s an excellent penalty stopper and, both physically and technically, he’s quite similar to Raya at Arsenal, which makes me think he could adapt well to English football and to United’s style.
The other is Donnarumma. He’s an absolute beast, and his transfer fee wouldn’t be crazy high either, because PSG signed him on a free transfer. From what I’ve read, PSG would actually be open to selling him, since Luis Enrique prefers a goalkeeper who is more comfortable with the ball at his feet.
The other is Donnarumma. He’s an absolute beast, and his transfer fee wouldn’t be crazy high either, because PSG signed him on a free transfer. From what I’ve read, PSG would actually be open to selling him, since Luis Enrique prefers a goalkeeper who is more comfortable with the ball at his feet.
Costa usually is a pretty good shot stopper, including penalties. And he has good feet.
He is prone to a bad day here and there, like against you in the EL.
He is not that good at crosses to be honest. Needs to Improve there.
He had a poor season like most of the team so I think he can do much better and he is still young, so many years of football ahead of him.
I feel we have been burned very badly with Onana, therefore any keeper who is poor at crosses, corners and overall not strong and tall enough for PL is a big no for me. Costa looks smallish with 6'0 to 6'1. I would stay clear from him personally, plus as you said he is young and needs time to mature up, while we need a ready made keeper. Lastly he is also very expensive, while we are haggling over a few millions rightly so over Mbeumo, it shows we are cash strapped so this signing is very unlikely.
Yeah would think John Victor is best hope for GK signing this summer unless Onana actually gets sold
Don't we at least need a backup keeper anyway, we only have Heaton who was third choice.
Yeah needs to be someone that is good at taking crosses to succeed in this league which isn't Costa apparently
Ter Stegen for £10m would be my new choice for sure.
Ter Stegen would be obvious no brainer if fee is cheap, I'd imagine wages would be high to convince him.
I'm just glad there's no more mention of Pickford or Meslier, although in hindsight either of those would probably of worked out better than Onana.
I'm just glad there's no more mention of Pickford or Meslier, although in hindsight either of those would probably of worked out better than Onana.
Ter Stegen or Martinez
Martinez price looks too high
Press just throwing shit at the wall for clicks. Here I can do it too -
“Manchester United may be interested in signing Ter Stergen. Talks ongoing with the player’s inner circle to see if he’d be open to a deal. Reports that Barcelona is keen on a potential move this window.”
“Manchester United may be interested in signing Ter Stergen. Talks ongoing with the player’s inner circle to see if he’d be open to a deal. Reports that Barcelona is keen on a potential move this window.”
Ter Stegen is 33 and has just come back from an injury that kept him out for most of the season so he wouldnt be a good option at this point
No Ter Stegen, no Martinez. Both had disappointing seasons and cost a lot (wages). Please think long term. Chevalier or Lammens would be much better.
Club clearly don't rate Maignan
I wouldn’t be overwhelmed with joy at either ter Stegen or Martinez, but if the former was cheap or either moved in some deal that saw Rashford go the other way, then they would fulfil my ambitions for the number 1 shirt: not being Andre Onana.
If we replace Onana this summer it cant be for players like Martinez and Ter Stergen wbo ate in there 30's and declining so arnt really an upgrade on what weve got, Diogo Costa is apparently available for €50m but City will probably go and buy him now after Ederson's performance last night.
We need a right winger, United should offer Anthony and some cash for Costa.
Anthony doesn’t have a new club yet right?
Wouldn't mind that at all. How has Costa been developing though, is he still a bit hit and miss?
Porto was awful this year(again), so not much development for him, he had an average season at best. A bit hit and miss like you said.
He played very well for the national team though which is kinda of annoying in a way.
What about Beadle? At worst he’d be an upgrade on Bayindir and if he didn’t kick on, could move him down the line. Any number two that came in would fancy their chances of being able to usurp Onana.
That said, despite being dead for nearly 20 years, I’d back Jeremy Beadle to usurp Onana. Ironically, he’d probably have a shorter blooper reel…
That said, despite being dead for nearly 20 years, I’d back Jeremy Beadle to usurp Onana. Ironically, he’d probably have a shorter blooper reel…