Lewis Hall

Wouldn't suprise me if Lewis-Skelly became available. Adding Bruno G will take their spending to over £110mil and only £30mil coming in from sales.

Skelly being home grown is pure PSR profit, which helps the transfer fund towards another striker.
 
dinostar77 said:
Wouldn't suprise me if Lewis-Skelly became available. Adding Bruno G will take their spending to over £110mil and only £30mil coming in from sales.

Skelly being home grown is pure PSR profit, which helps the transfer fund towards another striker.
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80 net isn’t much for them. They are very very healthy financially right now. I think if they move for Vini then yes they’ll be looking to increase outgoings.
 
macheda14 said:
80 net isn’t much for them. They are very very healthy financially right now. I think if they move for Vini then yes they’ll be looking to increase outgoings.
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If they add a striker like alverez they will need sales. All conjecture and remains to be seen. Can only hope, if we can't Hall maybe we can get MLS
 
croadyman said:
Well that just shows ownership wasn't ever fit for purpose but then we knew that anyway. So stupid not moving for this guy before window had even started, makes us look like right amateurs in transfer market
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Yep. I think the owners would be happy if we could just qualify for cl every season without breaking the bank, they wouldn't be bothered if we never won the league again. We should be a giant, still mentioned on par with real, barca, Bayern, psg. Them days are long gone though and may never be coming back. The difference is they crave success above all else, we don't apparently
 
He isnt worth anywhere near the price Newcastle are asking for, it would be incredibly foolish to spend £80m on an unproven LB who waant good enough for Chelsea and has missed 34 games through injury over the last 2 seasons.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Nowadays if a target looks obvious I tend to think it's probably not the real one. The obvious targets all cost big money and all our signings have been surprises so far. Vivell's influence presumably.
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That's if we even still sign one
 
RedRocket9908 said:
He isnt worth anywhere near the price Newcastle are asking for, it would be incredibly foolish to spend £80m on an unproven LB who waant good enough for Chelsea and has missed 34 games through injury over the last 2 seasons.
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I wouldn’t be too concerned about Chelsea’s judgement, he’s proven them wrong. Injuries may be a concern but 80m is a no go anyway.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
He isnt worth anywhere near the price Newcastle are asking for, it would be incredibly foolish to spend £80m on an unproven LB who waant good enough for Chelsea and has missed 34 games through injury over the last 2 seasons.
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This is a massive issue that people, including myself, are overlooking. We already have Shaw (bar last season), Martinez, de Ligt etc.. and are running quite a small squad. It might be best looking at someone more robust for a cheaper fee, as much as I like Hall.
 
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RedRocket9908 said:
He isnt worth anywhere near the price Newcastle are asking for, it would be incredibly foolish to spend £80m on an unproven LB who waant good enough for Chelsea and has missed 34 games through injury over the last 2 seasons.
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We could get him for around £70m, however get the impression you don't think he's worth that either
 
What genius thought it was a good idea to wait for Newcastle to sell Gordon, Tonali and Bruno G before making a move for Hall. Really smart.
 
Dominos said:
What genius thought it was a good idea to wait for Newcastle to sell Gordon, Tonali and Bruno G before making a move for Hall. Really smart.
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Yeah that’s what I said yesterday. If you really want him, then why not try earlier? “We didn’t know how much we would have left after other signings + outgoings” I mean, there are very well paid professionals that should be easily able to figure this out and anticipate roadblocks etc. Our netspend so far is a joke anyway.
 
Maluco said:
This is a massive issue that people are overlooking. We already have Shaw (bar last season), Martinez, de Ligt etc.. and are running quite a small squad. It might be best looking at someone more robust for a cheaper fee, as much as I like Hall.
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Who would you consider more robust?
 
Dominos said:
What genius thought it was a good idea to wait for Newcastle to sell Gordon, Tonali and Bruno G before making a move for Hall. Really smart.
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Yeah that is absolutely dumb beyond belief, well played
 
Dominos said:
What genius thought it was a good idea to wait for Newcastle to sell Gordon, Tonali and Bruno G before making a move for Hall. Really smart.
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As if Newcastle didn't know they were going to lose that bunch. Its easier to replace midfielders or wingers than to replace a LB in the league at the moment as there are no good alternatives Newcastle can sign. Its a complicated move for all parties
 
RedRocket9908 said:
He isnt worth anywhere near the price Newcastle are asking for, it would be incredibly foolish to spend £80m on an unproven LB who waant good enough for Chelsea and has missed 34 games through injury over the last 2 seasons.
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Do you think anyone Chelsea sells isn’t good enough for them?
 
RedRocket9908 said:
He isnt worth anywhere near the price Newcastle are asking for, it would be incredibly foolish to spend £80m on an unproven LB who waant good enough for Chelsea and has missed 34 games through injury over the last 2 seasons.
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How can you say he has missed 34 matches through injury ? He missed 15 games in the league - I doubt he missed more cupgames than league games. I even think he was benched in a few of those 15 games
 
lysglimt said:
How can you say he has missed 34 matches through injury ? He missed 15 games in the league - I doubt he missed more cupgames than league games. I even think he was benched in a few of those 15 games
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Trasfermarkt shows he's missed 34 games in two seasons but 25 was for ankle surgery in 24/25 and a hamstring that put him out for a month last season.

But he's also played 80 games in the last two seasons and around 5916 minutes so 65 full games over two seasons.

He's definitely playing a lot despite the injury and surgery.
 
I came across a guy on twitter called ‘Geordie Josh’ and I’ve never wanted to sign a player just to spite one person so much. Arrogant little prick he was. Saying it’s ‘2026, not 1996, he’s not going to go to Manchester United’
RedRocket9908 said:
He isnt worth anywhere near the price Newcastle are asking for, it would be incredibly foolish to spend £80m on an unproven LB who waant good enough for Chelsea and has missed 34 games through injury over the last 2 seasons.
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Yeah I wouldn’t use Chelsea deeming him not good enough as any sort of stick to beat him with. They are a shit show.
 
This ain't happening. Newcastle won't really sell for anything below 70/80, and we are not paying anyway near that. In this market with clubs like Chelsea and City, Newcastle are right in valuing him astronomically

Let's take the L and settle for mid players so we hope to barely achieve top 5 in most positions. There was some promise last window in terms of deciding a target and going after them with clarity. This season is the exact opposite, where we are settling for 3rd-4th choices on our list.
 
We might not sign him but we may agree a contract extension with Shaw which will be like a new signing
 
RedRocket9908 said:
He isnt worth anywhere near the price Newcastle are asking for, it would be incredibly foolish to spend £80m on an unproven LB who waant good enough for Chelsea and has missed 34 games through injury over the last 2 seasons.
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Just say you don't watch him and move on.
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What genius thought it was a good idea to wait for Newcastle to sell Gordon, Tonali and Bruno G before making a move for Hall. Really smart.
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Absolutely baffling. What's worse is our fans seem to just be lapping it up as if we are these masterminds just doing everything in the shadows and have this super secret finish planned to the window.
 
dinostar77 said:
Wouldn't suprise me if Lewis-Skelly became available. Adding Bruno G will take their spending to over £110mil and only £30mil coming in from sales.

Skelly being home grown is pure PSR profit, which helps the transfer fund towards another striker.
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He's better in mf and wants to play in mf. He wouldn't come here to play lb
 
AdNani said:
I came across a guy on twitter called ‘Geordie Josh’ and I’ve never wanted to sign a player just to spite one person so much. Arrogant little prick he was. Saying it’s ‘2026, not 1996, he’s not going to go to Manchester United’
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I despise him! Just as bad as that city fan on the overlap
 
ron86 said:
I despise him! Just as bad as that city fan on the overlap
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I don’t understand why he has this weird thing with United? I genuinely think he hates us more than Sunderland.

‘Chompy’ is miles worse though.
 
AdNani said:
I don’t understand why he has this weird thing with United? I genuinely think he hates us more than Sunderland.
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I Iive up there now and toon fans despise us. It comes from the 1996 title and has then been passed down to kids from their parents. They still talk like we're massive rivals.
They still try and mock from beating us 5-0 in October 96 and signing Shearer over us, it's hilarious how they haven't moved on
 
MissKatie said:
Trasfermarkt shows he's missed 34 games in two seasons but 25 was for ankle surgery in 24/25 and a hamstring that put him out for a month last season.

But he's also played 80 games in the last two seasons and around 5916 minutes so 65 full games over two seasons.

He's definitely playing a lot despite the injury and surgery.
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In that case Transfermarkt is wrong - Newcastle played a total of 48 matches in 24/25 and 58 matches in 25/26 - a total of 106 matches. Hall played 34 and 46 games - so 80 in total. And I know he was benched for at least 2 of those games. So he missed no more than 24 matches through injury (and that is assuming he wasn't benched for any games in 24/25 - which I couldnt be bothered to check)
 
lysglimt said:
In that case Transfermarkt is wrong - Newcastle played a total of 48 matches in 24/25 and 58 matches in 25/26 - a total of 106 matches. Hall played 34 and 46 games - so 80 in total. And I know he was benched for at least 2 of those games. So he missed no more than 24 matches through injury (and that is assuming he wasn't benched for any games in 24/25 - which I couldnt be bothered to check)
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Might include international games maybe?
 
Left it too late. Should have gone in for him far earlier in the summer. This will take an absolutely stupid fee to turn their heads now.
 
Not sure LB makes sense to spend a big transfer fee on

Yes, we need to add a LB, but I'm still not sure we need to splash 70M+, which will be what Hall costs

Shaw is here for another year and I'd rather we spend 20-30M for a different elite young talent without the PL premium

If that player comes good, then great - we've got our new starter to replace Shaw

If not, we have a backup and can go sign someone else as the long-term starter next summer
 
Dazzmondo said:
Maybe, but Shaw is still a very good lb and unlike Robinson he's actually not reliant on his speed, which he lost quite a while ago due to his injuries. His defensive and positional ability is actually good, so he's a bit less prone to physical decline imo. Robinson offers far more going forward so I could see us rotating based on the strength of opposition too, but I wouldn't expect Shaw to suddenly just be a backup after being our first choice lb for a decade. Particularly at the start of the season given Shaw's already looking fit and any lb we sign at this stage would be unlikely to start the first few games. I do agree with you that the player we sign needs to be good enough to be 1st choice though. It's a position where choosing a player based on form instead of a clear no 1 and no 2 would be preferable for this season. Shaw might renew also, I'm not sure what the club is thinking in regards to this right now, it might also depend on his actual availability this season. Regardless of whether or not Shaw will be here next season though, we should be preparing to have a reliable new first choice lb for the next 5 years ideally.
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Shaw, if he had no injury problems, I think we'd just keep as LB for the season and put money elsewhere but last season was the first in forever he's not had a significant injury and it's highly likely it's because we played quite pragmatic football combined with about half the amount of games as everyone else. I see Shaw a bit differently to you, I think he's dropped a level now his rapid acceleration has gone and it's shown up his positioning has issues. Last season we really played safe, sensible and a style that suited our older, less mobile players - I think there's going to be a lot more onus on FBs and CMs this season to cover much more ground and if we want to really free up Cunha/LW we have to have someone who can go up and down for 90mins, which Shaw cannot.

That's not to say Robinson is a dream signing, but if he's the best option it's an option we need to take.

Personally, I am really liking Ineos' approach and I expect we might get linked with someone we don't expect for LB if these players aren't available for normal(ish) fees.
 
Have people really forgotten Shaw's injury record? As soon as he goes down we're completely fecked at LB. It would be genuine negligence to into a season with Shaw as first choice and only natural LB in the squad.
 
I disagree with the idea that Shaw is still a very good left back, even ignoring injuries.

I think he used to be a class player and he's still very strong defensively but he hasn't got the legs to get up and down the pitch with any intensity now.

We need a left back, whether it's Hall or we try and find a Lammens type signing there, I don't mind. But we do need someone with legs.
 
Bebe said:
Have people really forgotten Shaw's injury record? As soon as he goes down we're completely fecked at LB. It would be genuine negligence to into a season with Shaw as first choice and only natural LB in the squad.
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Which people? Everyone agrees a left back is required.
 
Dominos said:
What genius thought it was a good idea to wait for Newcastle to sell Gordon, Tonali and Bruno G before making a move for Hall. Really smart.
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This is how you know this won't happen. You honestly think we haven't enquired about how much a potential deal cost ?

We've moved on from this but because there are no leaks its all guesswork from the media.
 
Bebe said:
Have people really forgotten Shaw's injury record? As soon as he goes down we're completely fecked at LB. It would be genuine negligence to into a season with Shaw as first choice and only natural LB in the squad.
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It seems we have some fans who are fine just signing no one, they say we have cover at fb, say mount can cover in mf, we have enough forwards. It's crazy, you should wmat to upgrade on excellent teams and squads, we have fans who don't want to fill clear gaps
 
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