Liam Delap | £30m release clause?

It sounds like Delap has offers from lots of clubs including going back to 130 charges FC.

I think we face an uphill battle to persuade him to come here.
 
MaMa given red said:
It sounds like Delap has offers from lots of clubs including going back to 130 charges FC.

I think we face an uphill battle to persuade him to come here.
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At 30m, there will probably be quite a few big clubs interested. It wouldn't make sense for City though.
 
MaMa given red said:
It sounds like Delap has offers from lots of clubs including going back to 130 charges FC.

I think we face an uphill battle to persuade him to come here.
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Unless its Arsenal or Liverpool, he'll be on the bench more often everywhere else
 
Raoul said:
Just swapping Hojlund for Delap would be very risky imo, and probably not a risk Berada and Amorim would be willing to tolerate given that not seeing a massive improvement in league position next year could mean the end of Ruben's time at United. Delap and Cunha on the other hand would be much less risky. As could Schick and Cunha or any other combination involving an inexpensive striker who has demonstrated he can score at least 15-25 goals before.
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I'm with you on this. I think Delap allows us to go for another 9/10. Schick doesn't appeal to me because of the injury record, but the premise of a combination you described would do wonders for our attacking options.
 
Get him in, Hojlund off to Italy.

I think the majority of United's summer business needs to be for talent in the league. When you consider Amorim is essentially working off a 2+1 contract he will need every signing to hit the ground running immediately.

Between Delap, Cunha and Dibling they are physically imposing in different ways and offer the team versatility in attack. Not saying to sign all three but if the interest in Semenyo is valid I'm all for it.

Signing a multitude of players with no domestic experience in the league will define failure and the only way you get around that approach is signing monumental talents (Wirtz etc) who United simply won't be in the market for.
 
Lash said:
I'm with you on this. I think Delap allows us to go for another 9/10. Schick doesn't appeal to me because of the injury record, but the premise of a combination you described would do wonders for our attacking options.
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If we sign Delap/Schick, we should be going for a striker with pace as the other option.
 
I have a feeling that Delap will be our only no 9 signing alongside with Cunha as the L10 due to 30m release clause (which is a good deal for PL striker), our technical director has known him since he was in City academy, and Delap is will choose us because we will offer him more game times while he will need to compete with Jackson at chelsea.

He’s physically far stronger than Hojlund based on eye test, far better ball carrier than Hojlund based on eye test and stats, far better aerially than Hojlund based on eye test and stats, and better in hold up play than Hojlund based on eye test. Whether he’s better finisher, shooting, movement, and positioning than Hojlund, that’s something I haven’t be able to judge him (feel free if someone can help me to compare Delap and Hojlund in their finishing, shooting, movement, and positioning abilities).

Delap will offer us an improvement in physicality. He is also one of the best ball carrier no 9 in PL. It’s actually not easy for any striker to carry the ball forward in PL so that could be a positive skill but also a negative skill because that means he’s a type of striker who will take lot of touches and waste his energy on the ball.
 
If we sign him along with Gyokeres that would've been perfect. Still very young and shouldn't be starting games, not for us at least. Can our top dogs manage to convince someone to take Hojlund off us?
 
Xeque_279 said:
If we sign him along with Gyokeres that would've been perfect. Still very young and shouldn't be starting games, not for us at least. Can our top dogs manage to convince someone to take Hojlund off us?
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This just aint happening. With all his options, I just don't see him coming here to be a pure back up, which he clearly would be with Gyokeres. I think the realistic scenarios for us are:
1. Delap, Hojlund, Chido
2. Delap, Schick, Chido
3. Gyokeres, Hojlund, Chido.
4. Osimhen, Hojlund, Chido
5. Schick, Hojlund, Chido

3 and 4 would be ideal and probably can happen with champs league money next year.
I wouldn't mind 2 if it allowed us to bring in a high level 10 like Cunha.
1 or 5 probably happen if we get knocked out tomorrow.
Apparently interest in Italy is high for Hojlund so hopefully we can move him one for a decent amount. He's a striker after all.
 
30m is quite a lot of money for a player who'd be a good backup CF. I'd take Schick over him any day if he wasn't as injury prone. If we don't have the money for a top striker, then let's just sign someone from abroad for under 20m (someone like Burkardt for example).
 
if there are other options, why would you opt to play for this United? Career suicide right now.
As a CF with no support and service, it’s a doomed position and it won’t improve anytime soon.
Hojlund has gone in reverse under this system and looks lost and has zero confidence.
 
soapythecat said:
if there are other options, why would you opt to play for this United? Career suicide right now.
As a CF with no support and service, it’s a doomed position and it won’t improve anytime soon.
Hojlund has gone in reverse under this system and looks lost and has zero confidence.
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He is different to Rasmus in the sense that he already has the physicality side of his game.
I guess it comes down to ego... come to old Trafford, score 15-20 goals and he is our hero- and probably gets in the England squad next summer.

If he signs for Chelsea he will be behind Jackson, if he signs for other non traditional big clubs he is less likely to play for England
 
MrBrightside1989 said:
He is different to Rasmus in the sense that he already has the physicality side of his game.
I guess it comes down to ego... come to old Trafford, score 15-20 goals and he is our hero- and probably gets in the England squad next summer.

If he signs for Chelsea he will be behind Jackson, if he signs for other non traditional big clubs he is less likely to play for England
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Love the optimism, but can you honestly see any forward scoring 15-20 goals for us in this system?
I don’t think he’s good enough for Chelsea but I think there will be other clubs interested.
 
FrankWhite said:
This just aint happening. With all his options, I just don't see him coming here to be a pure back up, which he clearly would be with Gyokeres. I think the realistic scenarios for us are:
1. Delap, Hojlund, Chido
2. Delap, Schick, Chido
3. Gyokeres, Hojlund, Chido.
4. Osimhen, Hojlund, Chido
5. Schick, Hojlund, Chido

3 and 4 would be ideal and probably can happen with champs league money next year.
I wouldn't mind 2 if it allowed us to bring in a high level 10 like Cunha.
1 or 5 probably happen if we get knocked out tomorrow.
Apparently interest in Italy is high for Hojlund so hopefully we can move him one for a decent amount. He's a striker after all.
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1. David, Delap, Zirkzee Obi

I think your right, Delap wouldn't like to be a back up but signing a free transfer may make that feeling cool down as it would seem like good business rather than a statement signing. Also considering it won't cost us any money, we might go for Delap first and then go for David after as our experienced striker on a free.

This maybe why we are being linked to Delap First, to get him under our books first before we get an experienced striker that would compete with Delap rather than asking delap to compete with an experienced striker.

I doubt David is good enough, but at the same time I don't think strikers apart from gyokeres and Osimhen are that great too and even those two plenty of people have some question marks about. David is a free transfer and even if he isn't a great striker, he isn't going to be worse than Hojlund who is non existent. David also allows us to get money when we do sell him in the future.

Delap should join us because United are starting a new return of the giant project and this can usually be quite exciting for young players. I believe this is why players like Yoro joined us and I wouldnt be surprised to see delap be just as excited to take the no 9 spot of the return of Manchester United rather than joining a team like Chelsea who already have good strikers but still a top club that just are not hitting the heights. Arsenal however have a big hole at ST so joining them maybe intriguing because of winning a title but Arsenal would more likely target a Gyokeres type transfer to do that rather than go for a striker with Potential. Same with Liverpool and them potentially replacing Nunez.

I'm quite optimistic about Delap and as simple as it sounds - so many Man City players have been great since leaving City youth setup for example Palmer and Frimpong that I wouldnt be surprised for Delap to be just as good.
 
Winning Europa League is going to be vital to secure some of our targets this summer it seems.

Rumours are that delap wants European football ideally CL. That puts us at a distinct disadvantage.
 
dinostar77 said:
Winning Europa League is going to be vital to secure some of our targets this summer it seems.

Rumours are that delap wants European football ideally CL. That puts us at a distinct disadvantage.
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He'd want to come back to reality. He ain't starting for a team that has European football yet. He's better a key piece in a rise to European football. One year in the Premier league where he was relegated, yeah, I am sure the top 4 are falling over themselves signing him as their main man.
 
soapythecat said:
if there are other options, why would you opt to play for this United? Career suicide right now.
As a CF with no support and service, it’s a doomed position and it won’t improve anytime soon.
Hojlund has gone in reverse under this system and looks lost and has zero confidence.
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Man his positioning is awful, he's never anticipating the ball coming into the box!

Funny how Casemiro can anticipate a corner or lobbed free coming in as a defensive minded player, but this guy can not put himself in dangerous positions!
 
I've not seen enough of Delap to make a real judgement on him. But, the idea of another young, raw striker coming in doesn't thrill me. If he's coming in alongside a more experienced, proven striker, then that works. Depends what we're planning to do with Hojlund.
 
I understand why our fan based are underwhelmed, however remember how much talent has come out of that City academy and done well elsewhere.
 
If I were a betting man, I think Delap goes to Forest. They have a good chance of making champions league or at the very least, Europa. They have an old established striker who they will put on the bench if they get him and they can offer him a decent salary. Plus their style suits his game as they don't like possession and rely on quick transitions. That's what Delap does best, he's a great carrier of the ball.

He's clearly our plan B if we don't make champions league which will allow us to still target a quality 10, like Cunha.
 
Kingslayer18 said:
If I were a betting man, I think Delap goes to Forest. They have a good chance of making champions league or at the very least, Europa. They have an old established striker who they will put on the bench if they get him and they can offer him a decent salary. Plus their style suits his game as they don't like possession and rely on quick transitions. That's what Delap does best, he's a great carrier of the ball.

He's clearly our plan B if we don't make champions league which will allow us to still target a quality 10, like Cunha.
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That's a good shout. They were also bid around that ballpark for 28-year-old Wissa a couple of months ago so we know they want a striker, have the money, and, as you say, offer plenty.
 
dubplate warrior said:
He's not slow and he's quite quick with the ball at his feet.
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Physicality and quickness is one of his strong points I'd say, from the little I've seen. But it's the mentality(playing for a club like MU) and if he's actually a consistent goalscorer that's the issue for me.
 
Kingslayer18 said:
If I were a betting man, I think Delap goes to Forest. They have a good chance of making champions league or at the very least, Europa. They have an old established striker who they will put on the bench if they get him and they can offer him a decent salary. Plus their style suits his game as they don't like possession and rely on quick transitions. That's what Delap does best, he's a great carrier of the ball.

He's clearly our plan B if we don't make champions league which will allow us to still target a quality 10, like Cunha.
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Be amazed if he went to Forest.

It'll be United or Chelsea, maybe even Liverpool.
 
soapythecat said:
Love the optimism, but can you honestly see any forward scoring 15-20 goals for us in this system?
I don’t think he’s good enough for Chelsea but I think there will be other clubs interested.
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Yeah but Delap probably backs himself to do that, which would answer your question as to why he’d choose United (given the other factors mentioned by the poster you responded to.)
 
Kingslayer18 said:
If I were a betting man, I think Delap goes to Forest. They have a good chance of making champions league or at the very least, Europa. They have an old established striker who they will put on the bench if they get him and they can offer him a decent salary. Plus their style suits his game as they don't like possession and rely on quick transitions. That's what Delap does best, he's a great carrier of the ball.

He's clearly our plan B if we don't make champions league which will allow us to still target a quality 10, like Cunha.
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What makes you think he's clearly our plan B, personally haven't seen enough reliable noise about Osimhen being our top target.
 
soapythecat said:
Love the optimism, but can you honestly see any forward scoring 15-20 goals for us in this system?
I don’t think he’s good enough for Chelsea but I think there will be other clubs interested.
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The system is perfectly fine with the right players, a better question will we get recruitment right.
 
This make sense now we are reportedly looking at 2 strikers
 
JE-365 said:
I have a feeling that Delap will be our only no 9 signing alongside with Cunha as the L10 due to 30m release clause (which is a good deal for PL striker), our technical director has known him since he was in City academy, and Delap is will choose us because we will offer him more game times while he will need to compete with Jackson at chelsea.

He’s physically far stronger than Hojlund based on eye test, far better ball carrier than Hojlund based on eye test and stats, far better aerially than Hojlund based on eye test and stats, and better in hold up play than Hojlund based on eye test. Whether he’s better finisher, shooting, movement, and positioning than Hojlund, that’s something I haven’t be able to judge him (feel free if someone can help me to compare Delap and Hojlund in their finishing, shooting, movement, and positioning abilities).

Delap will offer us an improvement in physicality. He is also one of the best ball carrier no 9 in PL. It’s actually not easy for any striker to carry the ball forward in PL so that could be a positive skill but also a negative skill because that means he’s a type of striker who will take lot of touches and waste his energy on the ball.
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He's far from the finished article but I don't actually think Hojlund is better than Delap at anything.
 
zenith said:
Yup, and my hope is that we do not compromise on our no. 9. A quality striker is worth an additional 10 points and pays for itself.
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Well pray for Europa success. Without the boost to our budget that CL football brings and the opportunity to play at that level I think we are going to find it very difficult to attract the likes of Gyokeres or Osimehn. Delap might be willing to come as he is young enough to not really care too much about not playing in Europe for a season or two and of course the release clause fits a restricted budget. It may seem hyperbolic but this European campaign is one of the most critical points in the clubs history, win and we might be able to accelerate our recovery, lose and we could be stuck in mid table for another 3 or 4 seasons as we gradually climb back to relevance.
 
Kingslayer18 said:
If I were a betting man, I think Delap goes to Forest. They have a good chance of making champions league or at the very least, Europa. They have an old established striker who they will put on the bench if they get him and they can offer him a decent salary. Plus their style suits his game as they don't like possession and rely on quick transitions. That's what Delap does best, he's a great carrier of the ball.

He's clearly our plan B if we don't make champions league which will allow us to still target a quality 10, like Cunha.
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Nah, if you’re Delap you take the big move and big money while it’s on the table. It might not come calling again.
 
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