No chance of that sir. We wouldn't want to be giving any competitive edge to the opposition.
Lineups in Intra-squad Friendly after Cancellation of Stoke Match
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Nor can Chong. Or one of Jones/Bailly. Or Nathan Bishop.
I think they put our best players up against each other while maintaining balance across both teams. Our best wide forwards against our best fullbacks, our main striker Martial, against our main center back Maguire, our main attacking midfielder Bruno against our main defensive midfielder Matic, Pogba against Fred and McTominay. Obviously Shaw and Wan-bissaka are closer than Dalot and Williams to the quality Rashford and Greenwood will be facing in league matches, and Maguire is close to the quality Martial would be facing. That's the general idea I think.
Is anyone really surprised that a player who's prone to muscle injuries got injured on the first week after a long lay off?
Luke Shaw confirmed the 4-4 in the previous match.
Goalscorers:
Shaw x2, Bruno, Dan James
Rashford x2, Ighalo x2
Goalscorers:
Shaw x2, Bruno, Dan James
Rashford x2, Ighalo x2
It is interesting that we as a club look how to earn few millions more here and there (sponsors and transfer fees) and meanwhile we have a guy who doesn't play at all and who cost us 4 mil per year (16 mil if we look his whole new contract and not including loyalty bonus and agent).
Given Pogba and Rashford have been conditioning for a while now I’d imagine they were on par with everyone else when they all went back in to training. All the lads will be needing to get back that match sharpness.
With Jones injured... Bailly was pictured yesterday, maybe him?
Only offered him a brand spanking new contract last year when we could have released him.
People forget that Pogba has also been fot for ages, and could have feasibly played against Spurs even on the originally scheduled date in March. I don’t think he would have, I reckon he’d have player the one after - but Ole did say that he could play if he needed him to in his press conference 3 months ago. Rashford, by all accounts, has been very sharp in training.
For all those questioning them playing - do they honestly think Spurs won’t be starting Kane and Son?
Bias?Take your bias somewhere else ffs
Being injured doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to play. He's now fully fit and ready for selection, Ole will decide the best player for the team at that point.
Nothing about squad selection is cowardly at all.
Think your mistaken.
It's simply about good squad management.
We didn't start bailly straight away when fit and he's arguably a better CB than both Lindelof and certainly Maguire.
All i'm saying is Pogba gets treated the same as every other squad member and earns his right to a starting place. He doesnt automatically get one because of his name. If he trains well and shows good application, im all for him getting game time. He shouldnt start ahead of Fred McTom Matic or Fernandes for me as all have played well. He can start on the bench and earn his spot. Thats what any good manager would do.
Seriously?
Thanks. Needed proof to believe that Shaw could score twice in a game
Key difference.
I think that most of the players pick themselves,but it”ll be interesting to see how Ole reintegrates Pogba into the team.Will be fascinating to watch how Bruno and Pogba line up...
Suppose maybe the coaching staff might not want what they're working on to be available to rivals?
Have u considered Mourinho would most likely have Fernandes man marked which would be a lot easier if he is our own creative threat in midfield
He won't automatically start because of his name. If he starts it's because he is a better player than any of our other midfielders and Ole feels he is just as match fit as them. 'Good' managers all over the world regularly put returning players straight back into the starting line-up if they are amongst the best players in the team. Especially if the injury was at the end of one season and we're looking at the beginning of the next season (which is basically what has happened here). For all we know he's looking far better than the others during these 'preseason' games and training.
Pogba might start. He might not. It's up to Ole to do what he thinks is best for the team as he's the one seeing them at training. Nothing to do with cowardice.
No idea tbh mate. I just saw a post on social media yesterday stating that Team A won.
Jones will be too injured to play in his own testimonial, I’m certain of it.
Jones already turned down a testimonial due to the abuse he gets.
TFM
I read as much. If he ever does have one though, the odds of him pulling up the day before are real.
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Spurs are likely going to sit back and park the bus and try and hit us on the break with Son and Kane. Mind you, Son loves to attack down the left so he is going to have AWB eating him up all night. So with Mourinho parking the bus, I think it's important to have lots of creativity on the field. So I would like to see us start like this:
------------------------------De Gea-----------------------------
AWB---------Lindeloff----------Maguire----------Shaw
------------------Pogba------------Matic-----------------------
Mata-----------------------Bruno--------------------Rashford
------------------------------Martial---------------------------------
It will likely be James instead of Mata, but I think Bruno and Mata have had a very good understanding together and I also think speed will be overrated against a parked bus. James can come on for Mata in the last 20 minutes to inject pace into the game when Tottenham are chasing the game and need to open up. I also think that Matic is a guarantee with both Pogba and Bruno in the line up. We need to have a DM specialist in there to protect the back two and Matic has been fantastic for most of this season.
As for the OP, I don't think those line ups were anything more than 11 v 11 that is an even match up. I also don't think there will be any room for Lingard or Periera in the 18 man line up and that the missing defender was likely Bailey, not Jones...
------------------------------De Gea-----------------------------
AWB---------Lindeloff----------Maguire----------Shaw
------------------Pogba------------Matic-----------------------
Mata-----------------------Bruno--------------------Rashford
------------------------------Martial---------------------------------
It will likely be James instead of Mata, but I think Bruno and Mata have had a very good understanding together and I also think speed will be overrated against a parked bus. James can come on for Mata in the last 20 minutes to inject pace into the game when Tottenham are chasing the game and need to open up. I also think that Matic is a guarantee with both Pogba and Bruno in the line up. We need to have a DM specialist in there to protect the back two and Matic has been fantastic for most of this season.
As for the OP, I don't think those line ups were anything more than 11 v 11 that is an even match up. I also don't think there will be any room for Lingard or Periera in the 18 man line up and that the missing defender was likely Bailey, not Jones...
thats confirmed?
another one back from the dead !
He was pictured playing in the first match whereas Bailly and Jones weren’t so he must have played for some of it anyway.
1. Ole trusts team B's defence profile. (Maguire Is in Team A because that team needs a defensive leader alongside dalot, William's, tuenzebe). Team A has better crosses competing against team B's defenders, whilst defensive full backs like wan Bissaka & Shaw have to practice against clinical forwards like Greenwood and Rashford.
4. Team A has the better clinical wider goal scoring forwards -Greenwood & Rashford but includes the both the worse CAM (Lingard in Team A) but also the most in the box predatory striker (ighalo) and not the false 9/support striker (Martial) who would usually help Rashford/Greenwood out. On team B, Martial the support striker has to work with Daniel James, Bruno Fernandes and Mata to try and become more predatory instead - ie work the opposite. Rashford & Greenwood play with minimal support whilst Ighalo tries to improve interlinking, Martial plays with full support to be more predatory.
Wan Bissaka-Lindelof-Maguire-Shaw
2. He tested our 2 options at deeper midfield - Pogba & Matic vs Mctomminay & Fred. The reason he did this is because he wont play Pogba and Bruno Fernandes together with Fred/Mctomminay holding as a CDM, I think he will only trust Matic for now. Matic & Pogba from Team A.
Matic - Pogba
3. The CAM he obviously will go for Bruno Fernandes from Team B than Lingard.Bruno Fernandes
4. Team A has the better clinical wider goal scoring forwards -Greenwood & Rashford but includes the both the worse CAM (Lingard in Team A) but also the most in the box predatory striker (ighalo) and not the false 9/support striker (Martial) who would usually help Rashford/Greenwood out. On team B, Martial the support striker has to work with Daniel James, Bruno Fernandes and Mata to try and become more predatory instead - ie work the opposite. Rashford & Greenwood play with minimal support whilst Ighalo tries to improve interlinking, Martial plays with full support to be more predatory.
Greenwood -Martial - Rashford
Full line up
De gea
Wan Bissaka - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
Matic - Pogba
Greenwood-Bruno Fernandes-Rashford
Martial
Ole has tried to use player weaknesses to build and even match. Good that it has come out 4-4. It also probably indicates that it's too much of a gamble to try 'new things' like starting Bailly in a partnership with Maguire or Fred or Mctomminay in a middle 3 with Pogba and Bruno Fernandes. Thats more likely going to happen as the season develops or just next season, not straight away against Spurs.Full line up
De gea
Wan Bissaka - Lindelof - Maguire - Shaw
Matic - Pogba
Greenwood-Bruno Fernandes-Rashford
Martial
Would be surprised if Gomes goes. No need to pick him on the Pogba/Bruno team if he's not going to feature.
Bailly was a totally different situation. We were regularly playing matches then.
Currently, everyone's on basically an even level. So whoever trains best and fits the tactics will play.
Clean slate to start fresh everyone. Hopefully everyone tries the best and Ole gets a good idea what to do when the transfer window opens up and roll on next season.
You'd probably complain if the centre backs for the Spurs game are Jones and Bailly; Matic and Pereira in midfield; and Dan James up front.
Man Utd goals in 3-1 win against West Brom (friendly). No clip of other game.
(Source: Manchester United via YouTube)
(Source: Manchester United via YouTube)
Rashy looks technically on point from those clips. Hope he continues his form from the ground running
I agree. Hopefully we can enjoy a strong finish to the season with Rashford on form. Looking forward to the Spurs match.Rashy looks technically on point from those clips. Hope he continues his form from the ground running
Jonesy has missed 200+ games injured!?
That's basically 4 of his 9 years!
Think that's a mix of clips from both the games.