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You're spot on that this club just had a huge spotlight put on them and that should only be looked at as a positive. That could possibly be worth as much to them over the next year as the equipment he donated to them. I do think that Lingard did a nice thing is part of the story and he does deserve recognition. I also think it's sad that we live in a society where a win-win situation can't be appreciated for what it is by everyone observing.The story here is not that Jesse Lingard did something nice to someone. It's that a tiny football club were visited by someone they all wish they could be, a successful player in one of the worlds biggest clubs, who helped them out with some kit, and gave them invaluable online exposure. For a lot of the players this is one of the hightlight of their football career, to meet someone they watch on TV, to many from their favorite team. He didnt HAVE to do this, he did this because he wanted to. The club thanked him, Jesse gave them more exposure than they would have dreamed of.
There's no irony in calling it what it is - your defense of Lingard because Alonso killed a guy is non sequiter.How many levels of irony have you missed there?
Why? I'm 53 and love a laugh. Rutting a pillow is not my kind of humour but who does it hurt?If he had more of his admirable charity and community work hit the news and less of filming teenagers masturbate with pillows, no one would have an issue.
He does plenty of good. But for a 27 year old I expect more maturity and a better group around him to control the message that he sends out to young admierers
Haha nice one.Whalley Range could also be a good title for his next collection.
It doesn't hurt anyone. But isn't that the idea of image? Both a players image and club image? There's always back and forth, some think fans and managers shouldn't care. Others think public figures, professional athletes should be mindful of their image. To each their own.Why? I'm 53 and love a laugh. Rutting a pillow is not my kind of humour but who does it hurt?
I don't have this big thing about celerity. As long as a player does the job on the pitch let them be a young adult. I don't see footballers as role models they are people doing a job.It doesn't hurt anyone. But isn't that the idea of image? Both a players image and club image? There's always back and forth, some think fans and managers shouldn't care. Others think public figures, professional athletes should be mindful of their image. To each their own.
I hate these replies. Have you done better, less selfless acts? It's like when rich people donate millions to charity, and people go, it's only for publicity and anyways he can afford it. You must be one altruistic good guy!I dont know about negative, but its not like its a selfless gesture. Its your typical run of the mill "look at me, Im helping out the poor folks" stuff most "celebs" do. You dont think its funny that theres always someone there with a camera for all these selfless acts of kindness?
He is what I imagine everyone who gives Lingard shit on his performance thread to look like if they ever met him.
That's the thing. It used to be that nobody cares about your Friday or any other night. But now if you wind up on social media having sex with a blow up doll, mouthing off to a police officer of show up to a costume party in offensive attire your employer is entitled to fire or reprimand you. That's the reality of this digital era with cameras everywhere. And it is more responsibility on public figures like athletes. You may disagree about whether it's pertinent and okay for an employer to react to an employee's life outside of work if it's not directly affecting it. In the end it's a club matter, the rest of our opinions are like I noted 'to each their own'I don't have this big thing about celerity. As long as a player does the job on the pitch let them be a young adult. I don't see footballers as role models they are people doing a job.
As I said I'm now in my 50's I know when to have a good time and when to reign it in because I have to set an example. The average 20 something doesn't have that experience to do that. I know that there are 20 somethings on here who do have that ability but they are extremely intelligent not your average footballer.
Anyway I'm on my way out to act more irresponsibly than someone my age should. I plan on enjoying my Friday night.
I know right. What are the chances someone has a camera on them at all times.
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Whatever he’s paying his PR team it’s too much. Not that I need to see lots of contrived shit about rich people giving stuff away, as I know most footballers are pretty generous, but it’s better than half the stuff he does now.Working in the local area, I have heard dozens of stories about Jesse Lingard that haven’t been promoted. One of the people at my work got his sick kid a load of signed goodies through Jesse and that never come up in the press. He actively helps out the local community. Smalling, Rashford and Mata are all amazing for it.
Yeah, it's clearly an organised photo shoot, as it's not like everyone in the world has a phone that can take photos.I dont know about negative, but its not like its a selfless gesture. Its your typical run of the mill "look at me, Im helping out the poor folks" stuff most "celebs" do. You dont think its funny that theres always someone there with a camera for all these selfless acts of kindness?
LovelyI know right. What are the chances someone has a camera on them at all times.
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That's not just limited to charities and rich people. Not a single person on earth does it for any reason other than to make themselves feel good.
And so? If a deed produces a positive outcome why analyze the intent? To prove you are enlightened? Yes, human beings are selfish and no that isn't ground breaking. So the feck what.Everyone is selfish and self absorbed. The difference is that some are honest and others deny this for a false sense of virtue.
That's not just limited to charities and rich people. Not a single person on earth does it for any reason other than to make themselves feel good.
That is simply not true. History is full of people who have given all, including their lives, to help others. It might not be something many do, but to claim that no-one ever acts in a wholly altruistic way is simply wrong.Everyone is selfish and self absorbed. The difference is that some are honest and others deny this for a false sense of virtue.
That doesn't make it not selfish. I may give my life to protect my country or my child, but that's a completely selfish act as well. Anyways my point wasn't to diminish what Lingard did - it was a response to the people criticizing Lingard saying he's doing this as a selfish act for publicity. I think this was a genuinely nice thing to do - he really doesn't get much out of it apart from a couple of nice tweets but those people were probably helped a lot - but its not really that altruistic.That is simply not true. History is full of people who have given all, including their lives, to help others. It might not be something many do, but to claim that no-one ever acts in a wholly altruistic way is simply wrong.
This man knows. Rashy + Lingzy = Smashy & Nicey.Working in the local area, I have heard dozens of stories about Jesse Lingard that haven’t been promoted. One of the people at my work got his sick kid a load of signed goodies through Jesse and that never come up in the press. He actively helps out the local community. Smalling, Rashford and Mata are all amazing for it.
'Lingard gives pox-infected blankets to natives'
He only gave a gift worth a few thousands at best? Might as well have spat in their faces, the cheap bastard.I find the platitudes a little much. He’s on what, £100k a week? Which is roughly what you would earn in 2 years on a pretty decent salary. That’s something like £750 a week.
What’s the cost of the kit and stuff? £2k? Let’s say it’s £5k for kicks.
That’s the equivalent by the above measures of giving £38 to charity.
Add to that they’re wearing his brand and he’s being photographed for doing it. What a hero.
Working class people give far more than this millionaire, comparatively speaking. And do it anonymously. They are the heroes.
No I agree it's a good deed. I'm simply replying to some guy who said that celebrities always do this for publicity. I just added it's the same for everyone who does it.And so? If a deed produces a positive outcome why analyze the intent? To prove you are enlightened? Yes, human beings are selfish and no that isn't ground breaking. So the feck what.
The pseudo philosophers calling out virtue signaling always make themselves look silly.
They have killed any semblance of fashion sense.......Lingard could save a baby from a burning house and people like you would be angry at him. It's honestly embarrassing that you get wound up by some fecking Instagram posts. Same for the losers on here who give out about what him.or Rashford is wearing.
They haven't killed anyone for God's sake.
He gave £38 equivalent and got filmed doing it. If you think that’s worthy of praise and adoration then so be it. Lots of people give more than that to charity earning a hell of a lot less and they’re not marketing their own brand by doing so. People get suckered in by pound values way too much. He’s a freaking millionaire, this is small change to him.He only gave a gift worth a few thousands at best? Might as well have spat in their faces, the cheap bastard.
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I haven't praised him, but I think praising him for it is far more appropriate than attacking him for it, or trying to make him out as some cheapskate for only giving a couple of thousand quid, based on the assumption that this is the only thing he's given. A couple of posters in this thread have said that he does small things like this all the time, without seeking plaudits for it, so he's probably a decent bloke. But I guess this one gift he gave was only 0.3% of his total income, so he might as well not have given anything for all the good it did.He gave £38 equivalent and got filmed doing it. If you think that’s worthy of praise and adoration then so be it. Lots of people give more than that to charity earning a hell of a lot less and they’re not marketing their own brand by doing so. People get suckered in by pound values way too much. He’s a freaking millionaire, this is small change to him.
If you base things on pure financials only, then someone donating 0.2% of their weekly income to charity is more generous than someone giving 20% just because they happen to earn more money by doing some arbitrary thing. That’s ridiculous.
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