That's a very good point
Lionel Messi’s Obscene Contract
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Oh don’t even get me started on Barca’s obnoxious decision making in this ordeal but my post was themed around Messi being a money greedy player end of the day. Players make sacrifices to remain a one club player. This man showed no patriotism in demanding such sums.
I almost think Neymar got Messi even more greedy with his last contract renewal as Messi must’ve thought he deserves way more than whatever Neymar got offered at PSG.
As for barca leaking the contract, not sure where you got that info from? I don’t think it’s Barca leaking it. I think it must be an employed associate either at his lawyers firm or someone working at La Liga. There were only 4 contracts printed. Messi had one, barca one, La Liga one & Messi’s lawyers Firm.
Always said as a football fan that the only downside I've had as a Man Utd fan is that i've missed out on watching Messi regularly at Barcalona too often. I think it would a cherished memory for anyone to say they watched him at Camp Nou at least once in their life time. I'm sure there are tons of non-barca fans who have made the pilgrimage just to see him and bought a shirt with his name on it.
Worth mentioning that Messi claimed he could've earned more in his career had he switched clubs. According to him he decided against money at multiple contract renewals because he wanted to stay at Barca.
Well, there are some reports of him considering demanding people from the club who knew about his contract, the club also immediately released a statement saying they didn't leak it which is kind of funny and, personally, it leads me to believe it was in fact someone from the club. It's not a very smart decision but this are the same people that didn't let him leave when this summer already, it could also been someone from Messi's camp but that would be even weirder.
19/20 accounts say ;
Revenue 855m
Expenses 955m
Op Profit -100m
Finl costs -28m
Net Loss -128m
I live in Canada but have flown across the pond to see him seven times in my life time and it was truly amazing. Like seeing Michael Jordan or something. It’s a weird aura and everytime he had the ball at his feet the entire stadium knew we’d have the potential to view something special. Saw Ronaldo in Italy as well and it was also very exciting.
What frustrates me in this thread is I’ve seen just about every single Barca match over the last ten years and to me there is no question he deserves it. We’ve had some amazing players obviously, but without Messi I’m not even sure we win the one in 2006 where he got injured as he was great before the injury, let alone winning anything since then of significance.
I still think people underrate how much he carried Barca in that 2019 season especially.
For that much money? Screw that. Even prime Messi isn't worth that. You could get 4 players and pay them 500,000 a week each or 8 at 200,000 which is 8 world class players (my maths could be off here I didn't fully read the numbers). Barca are straight up idiots for bending over this much
Former disgruntled board member leaked it, from barto’s regime. Hence why the current board members blasted the leak.
It’s also why Messi is suing the person who leaked it and not the club.
It’s also why Messi is suing the person who leaked it and not the club.
Dumb take. We use our other money on terrible contracts, Messi has absolutely been worth it. And if you read the athletic article I posted a page back they break down why his contract is definitely worth it.
Will be enjoyable watching Barcelona drop down to their previous level before the Messi-doping era.
True but have you thought given his salary, the other players will know how much he’s earning and demand more? It’s the same situation United ended up in after signing Sanchez. It doesn’t create good squad harmony when there is such disparity between player wages.
What interest would Messi have in leaking it? Lawyers could literally lose their jobs - permanently - over it, and la liga, again, what for?(for the record la liga is the one possible source el mundo denied)
Barcelona before messi 1 champions league and a team know only because of the players they had wich didnt deliver much -Cruyff, Maradona, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho-
Barcelona with Messi 4 mor champions league and one of the most popular temams in the world
btw, Sport Magazine said that because of messi, Barcelona made, after paying his wages over one hundred millions euros a year
not only selling shirts, or selling the publicity, but also every summer game pays 50 percent less if messi is not playing
https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/messi-genera-cuesta-11489183
Barcelona with Messi 4 mor champions league and one of the most popular temams in the world
btw, Sport Magazine said that because of messi, Barcelona made, after paying his wages over one hundred millions euros a year
not only selling shirts, or selling the publicity, but also every summer game pays 50 percent less if messi is not playing
https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/messi-genera-cuesta-11489183
Yes, 19/20 is the first COVID stricken season, when FFP was relaxed to help clubs deal with it. Otherwise this season's CL would have been Real Madrid, Atletico and noone else!
Does he make more with image rights, sponsorship deals etc? That's a pretty insane number, player wages will probably come down quite a bit assuming lower sponsorship $, matchday revenues etc
Yeah he's suing the paper I think that leaked it and also some people from Bartomeu party who were aware of the contract, can't really blame him on that but the damage is done.
It’s impossible to say that Messi’s contract is too big. Whose contract do you compare it too? What would it cost to buy another Messi? What were other clubs offering him at the time to force Barca to offer him those numbers?
Hasn’t he taken a 70% pay cut along with the other Barca players sine C19 anyway?
I’m looking forward to seeing the fallout though. Shambles of a club.
Hasn’t he taken a 70% pay cut along with the other Barca players sine C19 anyway?
I’m looking forward to seeing the fallout though. Shambles of a club.
may i ask from what wonderful country you are from?
who is mahomes?
Yes, that weird exercise thing that Ronaldo does and very few other players do. Definitely comparable with being prescribed human growth hormones as a teenager.
He’s an American football player who some say is on the path to overtake Tom Brady as the GOAT
I'd fecking throw him under the bus as well given how much shit he's talked for the last 12 months. This will shred his legacy in alot of barca fans eyes.
And yet every Barca fan and the club themselves support him and rightfully so. He’s done so much for the club and we had the most toxic board in history. Messi hasn’t tarnished anything in the fan’s eyes at all.
Well I’m not denying the fact that the club could’ve leaked it but them disclaiming any responsibility is just them playing safe. They couldn’t have denied that this isn’t his contract. So next best option is to accept yes that is his latest contract but they aren’t the ones to leak it. They want him to stay so they wouldn’t want any bad blood between the club and Messi. They also said they plan to sue the source of article leak so if it’s them that leaked it, it could backfire on them.
I never said Messi would leak it. I just meant there are many people in all these organizations who must’ve seen the contract. My bet is on someone lower in the chain trying to make some money by leaking it. But again, I could be wrong. Just my guess.
American football player playing for Kansas City Chiefs.
Cheap. He is the heart and soul of Barcelona, and the club earned tons of millons because of him.
i see
comparing mahomes with messi is like comparing oranges with water heaters
You're literally a billion in debt (and growing at a rapid rate), on the verge of bankruptcy, you're far from the best team in europe. You've sold your soul to the devil and you will pay for it in the long term massively. You should be livid because the return on that investment in the last 4 years has not been worth it.
do you have the numbers? or like most caftards you are just saying?
https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/messi-genera-cuesta-11489183
The club gets more than what they spend in Messi. When he leaves it will devastate not only the Club's economy but la Liga's too.
The club gets more than what they spend in Messi. When he leaves it will devastate not only the Club's economy but la Liga's too.
Please use English on the forum and try to avoid insulting everyone.
esta lleno de bobos este lugar, por eso deje de postear hace tanto
de vez en cuando vengo a pelearme un ratito
igual, aunque Bartomeu aparezca en televisión y en perfecto inglés les diga que Messi genera el doble de lo que cobra, a estos tipos no les interesa
Messi's brother. Or cousin. Nephuncle? Hard to keep track with their kind
i was trying to understand if comparing mahome's wages with messi's is reasonable
it is not
So seems like Barca were worth around 500 to 600M when Messi broke into the team and now they're valued at close to 4B. My question is what does that effectively mean? The club can't be sold I assume without a majority of voters approving it, which they wouldn't, so do they pay out dividends or just spend more on La Masia or wages and transfers?
But yeah, overall, if they've paid Messi half a billion and he's brought back say 1B in endorsement deals and such I'm not sure I see the problem, except that he should have, like any worker, been transparent about his wages, set a line for himself (say 3M a year to live comfortably and support his family and hire his team of chefs, trainers and advisers) and redistributed the rest down to fight the hellscape (income inequality, climate change, rising tide of fascism). But that's true of 99% percent of people who make over even 5K a week.
But yeah, overall, if they've paid Messi half a billion and he's brought back say 1B in endorsement deals and such I'm not sure I see the problem, except that he should have, like any worker, been transparent about his wages, set a line for himself (say 3M a year to live comfortably and support his family and hire his team of chefs, trainers and advisers) and redistributed the rest down to fight the hellscape (income inequality, climate change, rising tide of fascism). But that's true of 99% percent of people who make over even 5K a week.
It kind of is actually. Barcelona work under a salary cap too
Agreed. The CEO/board is at fault for allowing Messi to be in a position to hold the club at ransom. Instead of reducing key man risk, they doubled down tied the future of the club to one person.
I fear the mismanagement of Barcelona will be a Netflix documentary one day.
ah, the cap
what cap? as far as i know Barcelona can pay whatever they want to the player they want
in fact, that's exactly what they did in this case
so unless you tell me that messi put a gun on bartomeus head i don't see why messi is being accused