There's a specific thread for those Messi vs Ronaldo discussions we've heard a million times.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
I felt that Neymar partly left Barcelona because he wanted to show that his success wasn't only from playing with Xavi, Iniesta and Messi - that he could do it himself at another club. It's questionable if this has happened or not.
I wonder if Neymar has some bad mentality pop up in the future from Messi joining PSG.
I wonder if Neymar has some bad mentality pop up in the future from Messi joining PSG.
Kind of incredible he is already training with PSG and meanwhile Varane is still nowhere to be seen.
I think Neymar realized you can't win a CL that easily and being the main man. He had four years to try, and the understanding him and Messi had was so special, I can completely understand wanting that back. I don't think it will become a problem anyways because Messi will potentially be gone halfway through Neymar's contract with PSG, but even if he stuck around, I don't think being in Messi's shadow (for however long Messi can keep dominating in his mid-30's) will be as much of an issue for him now than it may have been when he was a younger man.
Neymar as been publicly pushing for Messi at PSG for 2 years now, and before that he wanted to go back to Barcelona to play with him again. So i wouldn't worry too much about that.
There are 10 year old kids making millions on youtube and twitch, fortnite tournaments awarding 5M to the winner (usually teenagers), and you still have people on redcafe doubting that Messi joinging PSG could get them that amount of money reported
Being a teenager is irrelevant, youtube and twitch videos can be monetized and when they are you can earn a fair bit of money. Social media engagements are for the most part not monetized.There are 10 year old kids making millions on youtube and twitch, fortnite tournaments awarding 5M to the winner (usually teenagers), and you still have people on redcafe doubting that Messi joinging PSG could get them that amount of money reported
My point wasnt to directly compare how the two make money, i know its not the same exact way. My point is to put things into context and change the old timer's perspective in here, we live in an era where people make a pretty damn good living by posting or uploading random things to the internet, which engages people into viewing more things.
If you think businesses like football clubs, especially PSG out of all clubs, cant find ways to maximize this effect and heavily monetize from it, then i dont know what to tell you. The greatest of all time, current best in the world and Balon D or most likely winner, right after being the name of the summer after winning his first national team trophy, leaving his lifetime club and joining PSG making it the best club in the world team-wise. Thats going to have a huge effect on their marketing, and online marketing is the most productive one right now.
Most of the links and tweets are not created nor driven by PSG,, they don't lead to them and they are not the ones getting money from it, for the most parts it's newspapers and it's nowhere near 48m in 24 hours. This is somehow worse than the shirt sales myth.
Just to put in context, if I'm not mistaken Youtube made around 55m/day in 2020.
Would love it if we end up in the same group with PSG for CL again.
I don't really know where the confusion is from, i specifically said it was not to be mixed up with real revenues. The numbers are just a rough estimate of the exposure the brands benefited from.
If accurate, it can be used as a sale argument to negotiate with new partners though but there's not a lot more than that.
Unless you have two accounts the post wasn't for you.
Another spy uncovered
They write pretty similarly as well. Hmmm...
We haven't had such juicy internet intrigue since Kevin Durant's burner Twitter account was uncovered.
Not capitalising their 'i's' is a giveaway. Rogue agent confirmed.They write pretty similarly as well. Hmmm...
Not possible, PSG and MU are in the same pot.
Pot 2 seems stronger than pot 1:
Pot 1 (Champions League and Europa League title holders, and top six champions by association rank)
- Chelsea CC: 98.000
- Villarreal CC: 63.000
- Atlético Madrid CC: 115.000
- Manchester City CC: 125.000
- Bayern Munich CC: 134.000
- Inter Milan CC: 53.000
- Lille CC: 14.000
- Sporting CP CC: 45.500
- Real Madrid CC: 127.000
- Barcelona CC: 122.000
- Juventus CC: 120.000
- Manchester United CC: 113.000
- Paris Saint-Germain CC: 113.000
- Liverpool CC: 101.000
- Sevilla CC: 98.000
- Borussia Dortmund CC: 90.000
Yeah, he totally dominated La Liga with 2 league titles and 2 Copa Del Rey's vs Messi's total of 6 La Liga & 7 Copa Del Rey's in 9 years. Another reflection of his domination of La Liga is his single best player of the year award (the same number as Griezmann has) vs Messi's 6, again in 9 years))..
And as if Juve needed someone to dominate the league.. if anything, Juve lost their complete domination with Ronaldo in Serie A after 10 years barely making it to the CL finishing 4th.. Not surprising as the guy has a very poor league record considering the teams he is playing for and managers he is working with.. Interestingly, they also lost their edge (2 CL finals in the last 4 years prior to his arrival) in the CLs transforming into a team that could not go beyond QFs (losing against likes of Lyon, 10-man Porto, Ajax)... Really impressive domination..
Finally, if you wanna discuss your boy's achievements vs Messi's, there is another thread as someone else said..
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Get this Ronaldo vs. Messi crap out of this thread please.
This isn't the thread to discuss Ronaldo, who isn't relevant in a Messi thread, but your boy certainly didn't dominate La Liga because it was Messi winning all those Ligas when Ronaldo was there, and most definitely hasn't dominated Italy in any capacity whatsoever.
You're free to argue how trailing Messi statistically, in Pichicis, in La Ligas means that your boy dominated La Liga in the Messi Vs Ronald thread, if you'd like.
You spout ALOT of Nonsense.
Its not like Ronaldo joined Inter and helped them over come Juventus. Its the other way round and he did not improve them at all.
Same for his time in Spain. Its not like he joined Atletico and help break the duopoly. If anything, he was never the outstanding player in la liga (but for possibly 1 season?) whereas Messi was always the single most dominant force there regardless of his teammates or opponents.
At Manchester United, he was playing for one of the best teams in Europe and England. United made it to a final of UCL and won Premier league titles even after he left.
Your attempt to downplay Messi's greatness is laughable and is only suggests that you are a Cristiano fan boy.
Having said that, unlike you, I actually also appreciate Ronaldo's greatness in what he has achieved though his career. Ronaldo is top 5 ever, Messi is top 2 or best ever in my eyes.
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He left because he is stupid. It makes sense to move to PSG in twilight if his career but he moved in his prime.
Neymar wanted to return to Barcelona to play with Messi hence was holding off signing his contract but he obviously realised they could no longer afford him so instead he stayed (this is what I think happened when the contract talks had been stopped for a while last season) and has been pushing for Messi to move the other way since last season.
Interesting but wrong thread.
Now he will hunt the likes of Angers and Brest.
This isn't the thread for messi vs ronaldo, but first let me write a six page thesis on why you are wrong and why Messi is indeed the greatest since Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin.
Yeah, right, maybe that is because this thread is specifically about Messi and his PSG journey?? It is very normal to receive a reaction if you start talking BS like a provoking troll about Messi in a Messi focused thread..Also, just wondering if you have any complaints about his trolling attitude in this thread... the level of hypocrisy..
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My suspicions have been proven correct that it was indeed Messi who was holding back Martin Braithwaite at Barca.
You might even say he made braith waite for too long.
Braithwaite on track to smash Messi’s LL goals record. All whilst Messi has 0 goals and 0 assists in the farmers league.
Completely forgot PSG failed to win Ligue 1 this time. Hah!
Knockout stages it is then!
Delusional. Now jog on to the Messi vs Ronaldo thread.
Give this man poster of the year award.
Mate, Messi showed much more tactical flexibility over the course of his career than Cristiano and if you don't see this, you really shouldn't talk about tactics.
I'm the Andy Cole of posting. You only remember the worldies, but not the 3-in-1 conversion rate. 
He's most likely going to play a few minutes on friday, despite everything that is being said about him playing until the 29.
He's as competitive as it gets, and hes training with the rest of the team's schedule like normal. After seeing Barca's game last weekend, im sure he cant wait to play too.
He's as competitive as it gets, and hes training with the rest of the team's schedule like normal. After seeing Barca's game last weekend, im sure he cant wait to play too.
No derailing the thread! Messi v Ronaldo can stay firmly in the festering pit of its own thread please.
Hatrick for Argentina. First two goals were just absurd. The nutmeg and curler for the first and dummy for the second. Incredible.
Edit - it wasn't a dummy, the shot was blocked and he got another chance. It seemed a little too perfect tbh.
Edit - it wasn't a dummy, the shot was blocked and he got another chance. It seemed a little too perfect tbh.
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That 1st goal he scored is one of his best ever which is saying something.
Absolutely ridiculous placement of the shot.
Absolutely ridiculous placement of the shot.
Really love that first goal. It’s like peak Messi.