Lionel Messi

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    Scarecrow Having a week off

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    predator Youth NITK

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    Frightening. I've ever seen a player in the modern game consistently make professional football players (of all positions) look so amatuer.
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    Ballache Full Member

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    Watching him live was an immense experience. He really looked like that kid at school that was much better than everyone else. Difference is he was doing it to professional players.
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    Skills Snitch

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    I find it difficult to comprehend someone can be better at football than him. Unless they find a way to transfer his ability into the body of a cyborg.
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    MS4 New Member

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    Still the best player...
    and not even in the top3 for ballon dor...such a joke :D
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    Bergman New Member

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    Where was he in Russia?
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    Raees Legal Guardian of the Football forums

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    Great video ... never really get to see Messi speak about his game like that.
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    Fortitude TV/Monitor Expert Scout

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    How do I download this? or is there a link to somewhere else hosting it?
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    Tommy bigot with fetish for footballers getting fingered

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    Moscow for the Iceland game.
    Novgorod for the Croatia game.
    St. Petersburg for the Nigeria game.
    Kazan for the France game.

    :smirk:
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    Remember to Cryopreserve him fellow humans.
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    FootballHQ Full Member

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    No secret really, his club fell short in CL and his country weren't in contention for WC.
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    wub1234 New Member

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    In my opinion, the best video is Messi vs No Space:



    This is almost impossible levels of control, vision, balance, and decision-making.

    I have absolutely no doubt that Messi is the best footballer ever. I saw Maradona, and quite honestly he was nowhere near, and definitely nowhere near in terms of consistency and longevity. Pele was obviously great in his own day, but couldn't do half the things that Messi does regularly. No-one else is anywhere close, or should even be bracketed with Messi as a footballer.
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    Fortitude TV/Monitor Expert Scout

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    Excellent. Thank you.
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    Dembeza New Member

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    My pleasure
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    Scarecrow Having a week off

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    Very good video.
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    Pow Full Member

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    Hes just incredible. The best player ive ever seen. Just completely mastered football in the attacking sense. Been a pleasure to have watched his era. Unbelievable playmaker unbelievable goalscorer. Just an unbelievable footballer.
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    MS4 New Member

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    Could not have said it better.
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    Cal? CR7 fan

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    Why is there a new thread for this? :confused:
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    SteveW Full Member

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    Why not?

    The best player of a generation if not ever. The more threads the better
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    Cal? CR7 fan

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    I’m not going to dragged into that argument again.

    IMHO not the best player of the generation, but very possibly the 2nd best player ever.
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    The holy trinity 68 The disparager

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    Don’t turn this thread into THAT debate.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    Out of curiousity have you warmed to Messi at all over the years. Do you even enjoy watching him play? It never came across as if you did
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    The holy trinity 68 The disparager

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    Hatrick tonight. The man is unreal.
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    Pocho Gayer than Marcosdeto (according to Marcos, who sh

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    He suffers it. Btw hattrick today.
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    Pocho Gayer than Marcosdeto (according to Marcos, who sh

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    Amazing, thanks.
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    Absolute pleasure to watch. Never been a player like him and I can't imagine there'll be a better player ever.
    Real privilege to have been able to enjoy his mastery through the years.
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    If football was somehow an individual sport, it would be so boring with Messi winning everything every year.
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    That second goal was eye candy. Most other players, at that speed, would boot that or try to control before placing the shot. He just passed it first time to the corner.
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    SteveW Full Member

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    Ridiculous performance. 3 stunning finishes and his passing was still arguably the most impressive thing about him. He's a different species to all other footballers.
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    Eddy_JukeZ Full Member

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    He is by far the best player in the world.
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    What happened to the old thread?

    Aye.
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    By natural talent and all round talent yes, in terms on the big stage performances in the last couple of seasons then no. That would be Ronaldo.

    Edit: Not looking to start a Ronaldo vs Messi debate again lol.
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    adexkola Arsenal supporter

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    You know good and damn well this isn't the thread...

    Damn. Saw your sneak edit.
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    Minimalist New Member

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    Of all time.
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    It's preposterous he wasn't shortlisted for the UEFA POTY nor the FIFA POTY.

    I don't know how someone could watch his games last season and conclude 3 players performed better than him throughout the season.
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    Eddy_JukeZ Full Member

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    Best player I've seen.

    But that's for a whole other argument.

    Pele, Maradona, etc have good arguments.
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    Zehner Full Member

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    That's a boring discussion, really. For people who prefer Messi, it doesn't mean much that Cristiano scored more on the big stage. It is not about goals and even less about being enabled by your team to play finals and win titles.

    In the same way, the Ronaldo of the last three to five years is worse than his 23-27 old self if you ask me. He just happened to play for a lesser team.

    However, if your evaluation criteria lead you to the conclusion that Ronaldo has been better because of his goals on the big stage, our understanding of football is so fundamentally different that discussing this matter doesn't make much sense. It was close when Cristiano was still dribbling and wrecking havoc. IMO it is not close anymore.
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    It just depends on your definition of 'best player' really. If it's in terms of ability, then I'd agree with you 100%. I prefered the younger Ronaldo, especially the dribbling one for us circa 2005-2008. And I'd agree that Messi is the better player, at times it looks like running with a ball is easier for him than running without.

    I was just making the point that for a lot of people 'best player' is also dependant on performances on the big stage and trophies won - which is reflected in the Ballon D'or haul over the last couple of years. Ronaldo's goals and all round performances in the CL knockout stages of the last 3 years were far superior to Messi's. That said though I like both and I think both tend to get underrated and overrated by those who like one too much, so I won't argue for or against either and leave it that.

    Must say it is impressive that Messi's kept up his level at 31, a lot of attacking players start to decline past 30 especially in dribbling but Messi still looks very good. Curious to see how many years he can keep it up for, I'm guessing as long as Ronaldo's around that'll be a motivator for him.
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    Even when it comes to big game performances, yes, Madrid have dominated in the champions league the past several years, but it’s not like Messi is a flat track bully only picking on the lesser teams. He is a big game player who’s produced in so many big CL matches and league deciding games as well throughout his career, making fools out of the best players, so that argument doesn’t fly for me.