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Dan_F said:
Didn’t the Caf previously end his career because he broke a metatarsal? These guys get the best treatment and physiotherapy in the world, it sucks but it’s pointless getting too hysterical at this point.
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This was a knee injury, and you never come back the same.

Zlatan ended his career at United when he had knee surgery. You lose pace after surgery, and he's 27 not 19 age is a factor.

For someone who doesn't have height, and doesn't have blistering pace it will be harder but he's class as a player luckily we play a back three.

Hopefully it doesn't require surgery.

A bone like a metatarsal isn't the same as a ligament injury.
 
Gutted for him. He was a player on form. Terrible to keep getting recurring injuries like that. Was clear he was devastated
 
TheNewEra said:
This was a knee injury, and you never come back the same.

Zlatan ended his career at United when he had knee surgery. You lose pace after surgery, and he's 27 not 19 age is a factor.

For someone who doesn't have height, and doesn't have blistering pace it will be harder but he's class as a player luckily we play a back three.

Hopefully it doesn't require surgery.

A bone like a metatarsal isn't the same as a ligament injury.
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Zlatan was more like 37, there’s a difference. I’d also be more concerned if his game was based on pace.

A couple of the best players in our history have come back from severe knee injuries and been world class. I’m just saying we don’t need the mass hysteria about his career at this point.
 
Anybody have a video ? If it's his knee twisted on impact then it's 99% likely it's him ACL so he will be out 9-12 months (if everything goes to plan.
 
Poor sod. I think playing at centre back in the Premier League just puts so much strain on a frame like his.

Get well soon Licha
 
This is awful. He has been our best passer and the only defender decent going forward. I am afraid this sets us back massively and our play will become even more static.
 
Saw a clip of the injury looks like an impact injury, landed the wrong way, which usually results in ligament damage. Very gutted for him, that's not due to injury proneness, that kind of awkward landing that can happen to any player.

Saying that those reckless two footed challenges in recently he could have easily caused serious injury to another player, he really needs to tame himself on the pitch. We know you are a hard man Martinez, no need to try and prove it every game
 
The Serpent said:
Saw a clip of the injury looks like an impact injury, landed the wrong way, which usually results in ligament damage. Very gutted for him, that's not due to injury proneness, that kind of awkward landing that can happen to any player.

Saying that those reckless two footed challenges in recently he could have easily caused serious injury to another player, he really needs to tame himself on the pitch. We know you are a hard man Martinez, no need to try and prove it every game
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Yep. Unlike some of our other sicknotes Licha's injuries have been genuinely massively unlucky for the most part. Awkward landings and shit challenges from thugs like Coufal.
 
I feel like we are going to struggle (even more than we do currently) without him, considering he's our only CB who is actually capable of progressive passing.
 
Snafu17 said:
I feel like we are going to struggle (even more than we do currently) without him, considering he's our only CB who is actually capable of progressive passing.
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He feels like our 2nd best creative passer after Bruno. Maybe Amad sneaks in there

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We'll miss him a lot
 
Sorry but said it here after his last injury that he was injury prone. Hope for the best but can't see this being short term.
 
Bobski said:
He was finding a bit of form, especially going forward, building up a good rapport with Diallo with that switch.

Defensively however this might not be terrible for Utd, a shit thing to say but even in getting injured he was showing some of his issues, ball down the side of him and he just didn't have the mobility to cover.

Hope he gets back quick but long term his future is probably in a slower paced league.
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Let’s hope it’s not as bad as it looked but not hopeful unfortunately. With the ball Martinez is everything you’d want in this formation, without it he is vulnerable and what you don’t want.

A long term injury is maybe the end of him at Utd and for someone who already seems to have been impacted by injuries it would be a real shame.
 
Looks like he’s finished. Shame, top player and today was again our best player before he came off.

Love him and his left foot is a wand. Please don’t be as serious as it looked.
 
always_hoping said:
No luck with injuries, wishing him a speedy recovery
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I don’t think this one is down to luck.

That's a 70/30 ball for most CB's. A pretty easy situation.

But for Martinez you can immediately see him struggling for size and pace. So he overcompensated and throws his body between player and ball. All he can do or the attacker beats him to it. Ends up off balance and you get the injury.
 
Ekeke said:
He feels like our 2nd best creative passer after Bruno. Maybe Amad sneaks in there

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We'll miss him a lot
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Just on a side note, most of CBs passes are progressive passes due to their positioning. His stats are probably a little inflated because he gets on the ball a lot but I could imagine adding Maz to the CB group and tasked with "play it like Lisandro" will also end up an uptick of his stats.

Lets hope it isn't too serious with him. He was stabilizing his form lately and obviously ball playing CBs are a cornerstone for Rubens system.
 
NZT-One said:
Just on a side note, most of CBs passes are progressive passes due to their positioning. His stats are probably a little inflated because he gets on the ball a lot but I could imagine adding Maz to the CB group and tasked with "play it like Lisandro" will also end up an uptick of his stats.

Lets hope it isn't too serious with him. He was stabilizing his form lately and obviously ball playing CBs are a cornerstone for Rubens system.
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Might be true but he's often 2nd best at playing balls in behind the defence to Bruno, setting up chances for us. Those are not simple passes that the other CBs do
 
Ekeke said:
Might be true but he's often 2nd best at playing balls in behind the defence to Bruno, setting up chances for us. Those are not simple passes that the other CBs do
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I don't want to take something away from the guy. He clearly is very good on the ball. I honestly was just point out the fact that defenders can look even better than they are in some stats just because of their positioning. Don't know if you know that packing stat that was around a few years ago. It is still around as far as I know but didn't make it to the public level. This was also dominated by CBs who were good on the ball and made lots of passes. They add up.

My personal assessment of Martinez is, that he is very very good on the ball but not so far away from the rest that it becomes an actual asset to us (or at least we haven't played in a way to capitalize on that) and that this ability on the ball comes with a few disadvantages off of it.
 
NZT-One said:
I don't want to take something away from the guy. He clearly is very good on the ball. I honestly was just point out the fact that defenders can look even better than they are in some stats just because of their positioning. Don't know if you know that packing stat that was around a few years ago. It is still around as far as I know but didn't make it to the public level. This was also dominated by CBs who were good on the ball and made lots of passes. They add up.
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Well just due to our formation with the RCB and LCB always having a pass out to the wingback being on would be considered a progressive pass. So I think you're right but Lisandro clearly tries some more advanced passes behind the defence as well on top of that.
 
NZT-One said:
Just on a side note, most of CBs passes are progressive passes due to their positioning. His stats are probably a little inflated because he gets on the ball a lot but I could imagine adding Maz to the CB group and tasked with "play it like Lisandro" will also end up an uptick of his stats.

Lets hope it isn't too serious with him. He was stabilizing his form lately and obviously ball playing CBs are a cornerstone for Rubens system.
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I would assume a 'progressive' pass is measured differently than just 'forward' and to a teammate. Also those stats are measured against other CBs so it's still all relative but yes agree Mazraoui should do well there if he moves back to RCB and recaptures some of the early season form.
 
criticalanalysis said:
I would assume a 'progressive' pass is measured differently than just 'forward' and to a teammate. Also those stats are measured against other CBs so it's still all relative but yes agree Mazraoui should do well there if he moves back to RCB and recaptures some of the early season form.
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Fbref says it is a pass that advances the ball towards the opponents goal line or every pass into the penalty area. Fbref excludes passes made in the defending 40% of the pitch.

I guess, there isn't THE one definition, I've also seen stuff indicating that it has to "overplay" a opposition player. But I think, in general the requirements for a pass to be progressive aren't crazy high. But again, I don't want to make Martinez look worse than he is, he certainly is very very good on the ball.
 
He’s the best passer in our team (yes even better than Bruno) so we are going to miss him a lot. He’s probably the only player we have that plays consistent through the lines passes.
Sad to say this is gonna be hard for him to come back from following on from his previous few lay outs. Once you start getting consistent big injuries your body and your mind are never the same.
 
Very sad for him. He's had a torrid time with injuries in the past couple of seasons, just as he's starting to come into form. Wish him a speedy recovery.
 
Will miss him big time, especially when playing a back 3. No one can carry or pass the ball like him, and having to field De Ligt and Maguire in the EPL is asking for trouble. Yoro is nowhere near top level yet either.
 
Tough to take this. Whilst he’s not the best defender in my eyes his passing and movement into midfield were starting to look positive. Won’t see him again this season so it’s how we move on now. Him being out isn’t going to affect the pace of the backline and we could be more effective at set pieces. Unfortunately, its going to be Jonny Evans and Lindlof coming in.
 
ValenciasDrilledCrosses said:
Yep. Unlike some of our other sicknotes Licha's injuries have been genuinely massively unlucky for the most part. Awkward landings and shit challenges from thugs like Coufal.
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Surely it has something to do with his frame? Feels like being shorter just lends itself to that. I have no scientific basis for that though.
 
Solius said:
Surely it has something to do with his frame? Feels like being shorter just lends itself to that. I have no scientific basis for that though.
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If anything being shorter I always thought you'd be sturdier. I'm 6'3 and tore both my left and right ACL's, always felt like being tall and lanky played it's part in that
 
Absolutely horrible to lose him. Probably ACL it seemed which would mean we aren't getting him back as a real option until 2026. He'll start training in the fall post surgery but probably 2026 til he finds form. Just make it through the season and hope we can perform freely in the Europa league as the league seems cursed for us, and we sneak into the CL next season
 
Horrible news about his injury. I didn’t watch the game and wasn’t too fussed about yet another loss as I just expect it now. Thus injury is terrible though. Hoping it’s not as bad as everyone fears.
 
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