Lisandro Martínez | 2026/27 Performances

A player who now has so little intensity, and running. He’s a shadow of the player he once was because he plays wanting not to get injured.

Also in the year we have played the least games in over 100 years.

Do you really think Shaw and Martinez and a combination we should rely on next season?

He’s one of the better LBs in the league and across Europe. Have a look at what the likes of Scholes and Butt have to say about him.

As to your latter question - it’s a bit misleading given that we actually have 5 CBs (6 of you count Fredrikson) competing for two spots. Therefore it’s highly likely there will be extensive rotation across a near 60 fixture season. Same applies to LB where the likes of Maz and Amass can also play, as can Dorgu if needed.
 
I’d rather sell and have a lesser player that’s constantly available. The club would be absolutely bonkers to extend his contract.
This. We need to be more ruthless with injury prone players. We are way too generous on so many examples. Martinez, Shaw, Mount, fecking Malacia. If you see a pattern, sell them at the first available opportunity, even at a loss. We always wait years longer than needed.
 
“First of all, I want to thank everyone for the messages and support during this difficult time. I can see a lot of you are disappointed and I know many of you have been praying for my quick recovery that means the world to me.

Losing with Argentina at the World Cup hurt a lot, but these things happen in football. Injuries are part of the game, and right now I’m focused on getting back to 100%.

I’m working hard every day to come back stronger for the new season with Manchester United. This club and the fans have given me everything.I can’t wait to give it back on the pitch.

Thank you for the love. See you soon at Old Trafford. ❤️

 
No way we could get that amount considering his injury record?
Good point, but he had an outstanding World Cup, which often raises the price. To be fair, "injury record" is mostly one big injury that he has recovered from. Whether it recurs or not would be a call of the medical team of the target club, and the odds will significantly depend on which league he joins. Leagues like League 1, Serie A, or even La Liga have many games with much lesser intensity than Premier League. Plenty of players who struggle in EPL join other leagues and do fine.

Either way, it is clear United itself is not overly concerned with Licha's future fitness... He is a top player, we shouldn't sell him for chump change just out of fear for his fitness.

Given how he is currently injured, it is all likely moot point. I would be surprised if he recovers quickly enough to compelte a transfer
 
“First of all, I want to thank everyone for the messages and support during this difficult time. I can see a lot of you are disappointed and I know many of you have been praying for my quick recovery that means the world to me.

Losing with Argentina at the World Cup hurt a lot, but these things happen in football. Injuries are part of the game, and right now I’m focused on getting back to 100%.

I’m working hard every day to come back stronger for the new season with Manchester United. This club and the fans have given me everything.I can’t wait to give it back on the pitch.

Thank you for the love. See you soon at Old Trafford. ❤️


Meh.
 
He’s one of the better LBs in the league and across Europe. Have a look at what the likes of Scholes and Butt have to say about him.

As to your latter question - it’s a bit misleading given that we actually have 5 CBs (6 of you count Fredrikson) competing for two spots. Therefore it’s highly likely there will be extensive rotation across a near 60 fixture season. Same applies to LB where the likes of Maz and Amass can also play, as can Dorgu if needed.

Fredrikson was a disaster against Grimsby last season. Unless he can give some good displays in the first team right away, I wouldn't be putting much hope on him.

I think it was Scott Wootton was another fella. Absolutely awful leading to United getting knocked out of the Caraboa cup too.
 
Fredrikson was a disaster against Grimsby last season. Unless he can give some good displays in the first team right away, I wouldn't be putting much hope on him.

I think it was Scott Wootton was another fella. Absolutely awful leading to United getting knocked out of the Caraboa cup too.

I think Fredericson is being sold this summer. Lots of talk of a permanent move to Europe.
 
Some people are missing the point that you need consistency and to build a partnership in that role. Even the 2 subs you ideally want need to know a predictable role or involvement. It spreads through the team.

Martinez is a great option to have due to his passing, its a unique variable that will win points in a season. But if we cant predict when he will be available, its pointless.
 
Some people are missing the point that you need consistency and to build a partnership in that role. Even the 2 subs you ideally want need to know a predictable role or involvement. It spreads through the team.

Martinez is a great option to have due to his passing, its a unique variable that will win points in a season. But if we cant predict when he will be available, its pointless.

You cant predict when anyone will be available.
 
Are there other angles of that 'punch'? Looks like he's trying to grab the back of his neck. Still a shitty thing to do with that force/speed and get involved anyways but a punch is a whole different thing.
 
He’s one of the better LBs in the league and across Europe. Have a look at what the likes of Scholes and Butt have to say about him.
Based on how Shaw played in the second half of last season (the first time he's consistently played at LB in three years) he's not remotely near that level anymore. He was great in some of the big matches where we were happy for him to just sit back and defend, but he was a shadow of his former self in the matches we needed our fullbacks to be providing more.
 
I would sell. His injury record is as bad as Phil Jones. No point if he keeps getting injured and we can't build meaning partnership. He is taking up a slot in the squad and also affecting our finance. We are building for 2028, for him I rather get in someone younger for rebuild.

Also, the physicality of the PL nowadays that favour tall CBs which provides an important advantage. Marginal gain?
 
He’s one of the better LBs in the league and across Europe. Have a look at what the likes of Scholes and Butt have to say about him.

As to your latter question - it’s a bit misleading given that we actually have 5 CBs (6 of you count Fredrikson) competing for two spots. Therefore it’s highly likely there will be extensive rotation across a near 60 fixture season. Same applies to LB where the likes of Maz and Amass can also play, as can Dorgu if needed.
Shaw is really not one of the better left backs in Europe.

He’s been given a pass last season because he was able to actually get on the pitch. He’s living off of reputation now.

I’m glad he did play, because we had very little in way of an alternative - but he’s no longer a top class LB. Do you think with the added intensity, his body is going to stand up? I don’t.

Fredriksen is going. I don’t see Dorgu as a viable LB, Amass is a kid who has very little experience.

Maguire is missing more games due to age, Martinez and MDL miss around half our games. Yoro has been poor for at least a season, he’s really not the player of high potential goal we thought he would be, but can be a solid player hopefully, and Heaven has played less than 25 senior games.

It is far from an area of strength, and we need someone in.
 
Lisandro is out best CB, but the issue always is fitness. If an outrageous offer comes in from a Saudi club fine, cash in on him; but let's not dump him like trash in the street.
 
Shaw is really not one of the better left backs in Europe.

He’s been given a pass last season because he was able to actually get on the pitch. He’s living off of reputation now.

I’m glad he did play, because we had very little in way of an alternative - but he’s no longer a top class LB. Do you think with the added intensity, his body is going to stand up? I don’t.

Fredriksen is going. I don’t see Dorgu as a viable LB, Amass is a kid who has very little experience.

Maguire is missing more games due to age, Martinez and MDL miss around half our games. Yoro has been poor for at least a season, he’s really not the player of high potential goal we thought he would be, but can be a solid player hopefully, and Heaven has played less than 25 senior games.

It is far from an area of strength, and we need someone in.
This all day, for me this is more important than a 4th CM. Don’t think Dorgu is a LB and Shaw will die if he can’t rotate.
 
Insane yeah, considering they faced Portugal, Belgium, France and Argentina in the knockouts . Easy’ish group (but most teams had those) but that’s a difficult run to victory.
No one actually pays attention to these things do they?
 
the Spanish CBs have been robbed.
Still, nice to see a United player to be included in World Cup official XI for the very first time.
 
In my opinion selling him now is a non brainer. He's 28, he's injury prone and while he's got his strengths, he's also got glaring weaknesses in his game which is probably make his injury record worse. He is also heading towards his last year of contract which means we either sell him now or we give him a contract extension whom he'll expect a huge salary bump. Someone he had missed over 50% of the games shouldn't be rewarded with a salary increase. On top of that De Ligt had vanished in the treatment room as well which means that we risk having to face most of the season with Maguire and the two kids.

Regarding replacement there's two players that I feel would do well with United and shouldn't cost us a fortune. One is Colombian international Jhon Lucumi. He's 28, 6ft2 and a powerhouse. If we're searching for a more modern CB then 25 year old 6ft4 giant Solet from Udinese could do the trick. He's fast and he's very comfortable with the ball. Both are heading towards their last year of contract and would probably be available for 25m-30m.
 
He’s one of the better LBs in the league and across Europe. Have a look at what the likes of Scholes and Butt have to say about him.

As to your latter question - it’s a bit misleading given that we actually have 5 CBs (6 of you count Fredrikson) competing for two spots. Therefore it’s highly likely there will be extensive rotation across a near 60 fixture season. Same applies to LB where the likes of Maz and Amass can also play, as can Dorgu if needed.
Butt and Scholes opinions are generally terrible in my opinion, they actually seem clueless on players......but agree also on this one, Shaw may not offer what he did going forward but he is still a quality left back. People desperate for us to replace him when we have an absolutely average on the other flank with less back up options is baffling.

Also as you say we have plenty of centre back options even accounting for injuries. People saying sell Martinez he has glaring weaknesses etc etc on top of the injuries....absolute nonsense. He is a fantastic centre back, so is Romero minus the moments of madness. Absolutely keep him in my opinion, he is our best centre back and even if he goes into the alst year, gives us more time to bed in Heaven
 
Isn’t the golden glove for clean sheets?
They just kept saying 'Best keeper" on my feed.

They need to decide, and most clean sheets should be awarded to the whole defensive unit imo, if that's what it's for. Simon didn't have much to do (10 saves total iirc and how many of those were basic?) and had two occasions where he almost cost his team a goal through stupidity. His defence bailing him out both times.

For me Mpasi and Vozinha were the best goalies at the tournament. Simon isn't in my top ten.
 
A player who now has so little intensity, and running. He’s a shadow of the player he once was because he plays wanting not to get injured.

Also in the year we have played the least games in over 100 years.

Do you really think Shaw and Martinez and a combination we should rely on next season?
Shaw was one to benefit the most out of a 1 game per week season. It allowed him to recover from fatigue thus adding mileage to his game time. That won't happen this season. On top of that his game has changed. Gone are the days of Shaw bombing the left wing as he did against Italy in that Euro Final. He simply lack the legs to do it. Thus we're left with yet another fullback who provides little to no support when the team is in possession ie a player which will force us to play counter attacking football.
 
They just kept saying 'Best keeper" on my feed.

They need to decide, and most clean sheets should be awarded to the whole defensive unit imo, if that's what it's for. Simon didn't have much to do (10 saves total iirc and how many of those were basic?) and had two occasions where he almost cost his team a goal through stupidity. His defence bailing him out both times.

For me Mpasi and Vozinha were the best goalies at the tournament. Simon isn't in my top ten.
That’s never normally the case though. The keeper normally has the most responsibility for keeping a clean sheet. Ain’t just about saves, they organise the defence too. Not sure how a keeper that kept a record number of clean sheets isn’t in your top ten