Liverpool 2022/23

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Mane won't be a big miss for the cups but his firepower over the course of a full season will be a huge miss, which I feel will be unlikely for Nunez to replace right away.
The main reason they could compete with Peps league machinery is that they had Salah and Mane replacing each other flawlessly when one was underperforming for a certain period. Additionally I still feel their depth can't compete with City, especially their defence and midfield is lacking options.

As for quadruple talks, I fully expect Klopp to throw League und FA cup like he used to do, them winning both last season was more a result of easy fixtures and B/C teams winning their games rather than specific focus. Now that he has bagged them I doubt he'll give a shit and solely focus on PL and CL.
 

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Mane won't be a big miss for the cups but his firepower over the course of a full season will be a huge miss, which I feel will be unlikely for Nunez to replace right away.
The main reason they could compete with Peps league machinery is that they had Salah and Mane replacing each other flawlessly when one was underperforming for a certain period. Additionally I still feel their depth can't compete with City, especially their defence and midfield is lacking options.

As for quadruple talks, I fully expect Klopp to throw League und FA cup like he used to do, them winning both last season was more a result of easy fixtures and B/C teams winning their games rather than specific focus. Now that he has bagged them I doubt he'll give a shit and solely focus on PL and CL.
Yep agree with that. We definitely don't have enough to go for another quadruple attempt and not just because of Mane leaving.

Not that we were thinking of going for a quadruple at the start of last season. It's like a televised 147, once you pot enough blacks in a row because the table is nicely laid out suddenly it becomes 'on' and you've got no choice but to go for it or the crowd will boo you. :lol:
 

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Additionally I still feel their depth can't compete with City, especially their defence and midfield is lacking options.
Their defence is arguably more balanced now that they've added proper RB cover with Ramsay. VVD, Matip & Konaté is a great CB rotation, Robertson/Tsimikas, TAA/Ramsay, plus Gomez. Better keeper, too. Compared to City with their 2.5 fullbacks, who had to resort to playing Aké at LB and Stones at RB far too often.

Midfield, I agree. They need some quality from the bench & the likes of Ox, Jones & 36-year-old Milner are hardly it. Maybe the youngsters will freshen it up, but I can see them filling in across the front three as well.
 

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Their defence is arguably more balanced now that they've added proper RB cover with Ramsay. VVD, Matip & Konaté is a great CB rotation, Robertson/Tsimikas, TAA/Ramsay, plus Gomez. Better keeper, too. Compared to City with their 2.5 fullbacks, who had to resort to playing Aké at LB and Stones at RB far too often.

Midfield, I agree. They need some quality from the bench & the likes of Ox, Jones & 36-year-old Milner are hardly it. Maybe the youngsters will freshen it up, but I can see them filling in across the front three as well.
If City lose Sterling, Silva and having already lost Fernidinio . City not looking as strong in Midfield either.
 

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Yep agree with that. We definitely don't have enough to go for another quadruple attempt and not just because of Mane leaving.

Not that we were thinking of going for a quadruple at the start of last season. It's like a televised 147, once you pot enough blacks in a row because the table is nicely laid out suddenly it becomes 'on' and you've got no choice but to go for it or the crowd will boo you. :lol:
Met a couple of scousers in the pub giving it large the other day.

Scouser 1, “I don’t think Klopp will go for the quadruple this season”

Scouser 2, “yeah, I think your right. Last season was awersome though. I Will never forget it.”

Then i said, “guys you do realise you never fecking won it last season!”

Some of them are deluded. They actually talk like they won the quadruple!
 

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Met a couple of scousers in the pub giving it large the other day.

Scouser 1, “I don’t think Klopp will go for the quadruple this season”

Scouser 2, “yeah, I think your right. Last season was awersome though. I Will never forget it.”

Then i said, “guys you do realise you never fecking won it last season!”

Some of them are deluded. They actually talk like they won the quadruple!
The comedy is that most years he throws the minor cups in preference of the bigger 2.
The year he wins the minor 2 it leaves them more knackered for the bigger 2.

Lovely.
 

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I see there's still no mention of Jurgen Norbert Klopp who has now equalled the record of Marcello Lippi for the number of Champs League Final defeats, having lost 3 out of 4. He also lost in the final of the Europa League which makes him the manager that's lost the most European Finals. Klopp is the biggest bottler and failure in the history of European competition.
 

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There's a chance they'll win the quadruple next year, but then again a chance they won't
I give them like 20% chance to win the league. CL 10%, League cup 20%, Fa cup 20%.

Then again if they gain momentum they can win it all.

City though got like 60% chance to win the league, CL 20%, Leauge cup 35%, Fa cup 25%.

The bookies give roughly these odds just they rate Liverpool higher in CL, but I think Mane will be a big loss in the big games.
Also I rate Real Madrid higher than the bookies.
 
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I see there's still no mention of Jurgen Norbert Klopp who has now equalled the record of Marcello Lippi for the number of Champs League Final defeats, having lost 3 out of 4. He also lost in the final of the Europa League which makes him the manager that's lost the most European Finals. Klopp is the biggest bottler and failure in the history of European competition.
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