Liverpool assistant Buvac leaves after dispute with Klopp

[TheLiverBird]

I'd assume it was something extremely serious. Even if he had a bust up i doubt he'd walk away now in what could possibly be the biggest match in his management career.

Indeed its probably no doubt something pretty serious, but I'm struggling to see it being a bust up with Klopp, I could be wrong of course but I'd be shocked

You don't just leave temporarily near the end of the season when theres huge things to still play for with regards to top 4 and CL Semi Final likely leading to the Final.

You either walk for good, or the matters are set aside/resolved for focus on more important team matters

It to me, appears to be something outside of football, and he'll be back

 

[Giethewill]

There's an account on Twitter that's been leaking the Liverpool team news usually a day before the game for the past few months. This weekend he said it would be the last time he did it.

Can you share the person's username or the link to their account

 

[dwd]

Indeed its probably no doubt something pretty serious, but I'm struggling to see it being a bust up with Klopp, I could be wrong of course but I'd be shocked

You don't just leave temporarily near the end of the season when theres huge things to still play for with regards to top 4 and CL Semi Final likely leading to the Final.

You either walk for good, or the matters are set aside/resolved for focus on more important team matters

It to me, appears to be something outside of football, and he'll be back

Paul Joyce thinks differently.

 

[Giethewill]

This sort of self-sabotage is flabbergasting, what could possibly be so bad (if it’s not truly personal) for this to occur at such a critical juncture?

 

[Hammerfell]

I can’t help but feel people are overestimating the negative impact this’ll have on Liverpool.

 

[SER19]

Pressure probably causing tension with another final looming after years of failing at the final hurdle.

 

[tenpoless]

Wouldn't overestimate this if He's a nobody, but He had been working with Klopp for 13 years!

 

[Tom Van Persie]

They’re in total denial.

As always. Remember the Coutinho thread?

 

[dwd]

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[Samid]

Dippers are showing class by wishing he has personal issues rather than just accepting that he's gone because of disagreements.

 

[Adisa]

Wouldn't overestimate this if He's a nobody, but He had been working with Klopp for 13 years!

It's not going to a them.
They're not going to suddenly forget how to play on gengenpress.
If the rumours are true that there has been friction for a while, it would even be less of a shock.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

Personal reasons can also mean a fall out. It may be his personal decision that he no longer wants to work with Klopp.

 

[hasanejaz88]

Wouldn't overestimate this if He's a nobody, but He had been working with Klopp for 13 years!

17 years, from the time Klopp started managing at Mainz. They played, a developed a friendship, at Mainz and decided that whoever went into management would take the other as their assistant. Sad to see such a strong bond broken, don't know what it must've taken for this to happen.

 

[Adisa]

Personal reasons can also mean a fall out. It may be his personal decision that he no longer wants to work with Klopp.

Yes. "Personal issue" is an intentionally bag term.

 

[Dumbstar]

I'm sad and disappointed. Normally I would say pfft it's only the right hand man. But every time we've lost a number 2 we have suffered badly. Expecting the same with Klopp now.

Even Ferguson struggled after losing McLaren and Quieroz though obviously rallied just enough to keep going. Not sure we can.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

I'm sad and disappointed. Normally I would say pfft it's only the right hand man. But every time we've lost a number 2 we have suffered badly. Expecting the same with Klopp now.

Even Ferguson struggled after losing McLaren and Quieroz though obviously rallied just enough to keep going. Not sure we can.

Yeah, just enough.

 

[Dumbstar]

Yeah, just enough.

I didn't mean that as a dig. You can't compare any manager with Ferguson.

 

[MalcolmTucker]

Best of luck to him with his new stand up tour

Are Liverpool going out? Or going out out?

 

[KM]

I'm sad and disappointed. Normally I would say pfft it's only the right hand man. But every time we've lost a number 2 we have suffered badly. Expecting the same with Klopp now.

Even Ferguson struggled after losing McLaren and Quieroz though obviously rallied just enough to keep going. Not sure we can.

This is a myth. I think you're alluding to when Pako left Benitez, but Liverpool had their best season in league when Pako left.

Also that Ferguson thing is too a myth. We won 3 league titles in the next 5 years. Also reached two CL finals where we obviously met Pep's Barcelona.

 

[SteveJ]

He's leaving due to the excitement over Abba's new songs.

 

[marukomu]

People were saying the same about when Coutinho was off, and look what happened. No problem for them, I reckon.

 

[KM]

Dippers are showing class by wishing he has personal issues rather than just accepting that he's gone because of disagreements.

I just deleted a post from a newbie which said "The guy could have found out a cancer diagnosis. I think we should all give him space."

Ffs.

 

[hasanejaz88]

Yeah, just enough.

Well, United did struggle in the 03-04 season when Carlos left for Madrid. It was the lowest points total since '91, so it wasn't as if United weren't effected. Though it can be argued it wasn't out of the ordinary and could've been a regular season as well.

Generally I don't think the impact of the Assistant Manager, especially a long term one, should be underestimated. It can be difficult for a manager to adjust without one.

 

[Adisa]

I didn't mean that as a dig. You can't compare any manager with Ferguson.

Can't really attribute our dips in those periods to the loss of a number 2.
We lost out to two better teams in Arsenal and Chelsea. Would be a stretch to say it wouldn't have happened if McLaren and Querioz had stayed.
Liverpool struggling after losing assistant was probably as a result of deeper malignant issues which culminated in the assistant leaving. Not that the assistant leaving caused the issues.

 

[Rajma]

This is how nazi germany started.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Well, United did struggle in the 03-04 season when Carlos left for Madrid. It was the lowest points total since '91, so it wasn't as if United weren't effected.

We were up against a great Arsenal side and Chelsea flush with billions for the first time. I don't think it was down to losing a number 2.

We still finished 3rd and won the FA Cup.

 

[CassiusClaymore]

Can you share the person's username or the link to their account

https://twitter.com/AnfieldExpress?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

 

[Paxi]

I love how Liverpool fans deny everything they don't want to hear. Then it hits them right in the face. Every time.

 

[shaky]

Here's hoping Klopp turns out to be the Andrew Ridgeley of the duo.

 

[arthurka]

No way he would leave just before a CL semi final and 90 min away from the final if things were OK..
I think Castle might be on to something there..

 

[SteveJ]

Klopp's flaws will now be fatally exposed by the loss of this bloke I've never heard of and know nothing about!

 

[marukomu]

He was last seen heading towards Bootle on a horse.

 

[SteveJ]

Klopp and co in happier times:

 

[KM]

Klopp and co in happier times:

Klopp: After all this time?

Buvac: Always.

*stolen from Reddit

 

[Paxi]

Spoiler

Heavy metal football you say?

 

[Slevs]

Klopp's flaws will now be fatally exposed by the loss of this bloke I've never heard of and know nothing about!

 

[Can23]

Dippers are showing class by wishing he has personal issues rather than just accepting that he's gone because of disagreements.

Can you quote me the Liverpool supporters who are "wishing he has personal issues"? Liverpool based journalists are stating he's temporarily left due to personal issues, obviously its looking like they've been briefed.

But don't you think it would make sense that Buvac who has been friends with Klopp for 17 years and followed him everywhere he's worked wouldn't quit over just an argument in what could be in the coming weeks the biggest achievement in his management career.

 

[groovyalbert]

From someone I'd honestly never knew the name of to one of the most influential tacticians in world football. I love this forum.

 

[HTG]

From someone I'd honestly never knew the name of to one of the most influential tacticians in world football. I love this forum.

To be fair, he was relatively well known, especially for an assistant coach. I’d say that probably most German football fans know him. At least those who follow the sport somewhat intensively. His importance was often talked about back in their Dortmund days. No idea how big his impact actually is, but it’s not like he was no one and this could be a serious issue for Liverpool.

 

[montpelier]

Is this the bloke who looks a bit like Gail Tilsley?