Liverpool - Premier League champions 19/20 Season

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    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    I couldn't find a thread on us so thought I'd make one.

    Pre-Season

    We've played two pre-season games so far against Tranmere & Bradford, winning 6-0 & 3-1. Rhian Brewster has impressed with three goals in two games, and it seems that Klopp is trying to move Lallana back into a deeper midfield role. He played as a no. 6 in both games. Oxlade-Chamberlain is having his first full pre-season with the club as well.

    Our schedule for pre-season is a busy one and I think this has something to do with the number of fixtures we'll have in the coming season. Klopp has us playing a friendly every 3/4 days which I think is being done to maintain match sharpness. This makes sense considering we'll be playing in that daft World Club Cup thing in the middle of the season, as well as the four major trophies, a Community Shield vs. Manchester City & a Super Cup Final against Chelsea.

    We're gradually getting players back but we won't have Alisson, Firmino or Salah available for another couple of weeks due to them all being on their holidays. Mane is playing in the AFCON final on Friday so he's expected to miss the start of the season.

    Based on that we'll probably go into the Community Shield game against Manchester City with a makeshift front line and save a couple of players for the first league game against Norwich.

    Transfers

    Arrivals:

    Sepp van den Berg from PEC Zwolle for 2 million pounds.

    Departures:

    Danny Ings to Southampton for 20 million pounds.
    Marko Grujic loaned to Hertha BSC for the season.
    Alberto Moreno to Villarreal for free. End of contract.
    Daniel Sturridge - End of contract, currently without a club. He did get his dog back though.
    Adam Bogdan (remember him?) - End of contract, currently without a club.
    Connor Randall - End of contract, currently without a contract.
    Sheyi Ojo to Rangers, loaned until the end of the season.

    It's been a quiet window and I'm not sure we'll even bring anyone in to be honest. I think Klopp likes his squad and can now rely on Brewster & Chamberlain as first team options for the start of the season. We probably need a back up left back but Ki-Jana Hoever is a young prospect who Klopp see's as potential for that position in my opinion. We've been linked with Philippe Coutinho & Nicholas Pepe but I don't think either will happen.

    Expectations

    I think a title challenge and a minimum of one trophy is a reasonable expectation to have for the season. We should be looking to build on last season's success and we don't have any excuses not to. Usually we fall apart after finishing 2nd, but this coincides with a poor transfer window and a very important player leaving the club (most recently Suarez in 2014). It's highly unlikely that we see any major outgoings this time around.

    I'm not convinced we'll have enough to overhaul Manchester City at the top so I'm expecting 2nd in the league, a good run in the Champions League & an FA Cup win.

    Finishing trophy-less would be very disappointing and feel like a step backwards for me.

    Now watch us end up 8th below Everton...
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Will Wilson get any game time or will he be going on loan again?

    I worry about City not replacing Kompany tbh, that could be the difference between your lot finishing 2nd again or the unthinkable. I do think it's a mistake for you not to sign big again though, resting on your laurels now when you haven't actually done anything domestically seems odd
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    Historically, every year Liverpool have mounted a serious title challenge they have imploded spectacularly the following year. Here's to hoping the trend continues.

    The murmurings of expectation from the fans have already begun. The pressure is going to be enormous and it's a big ask to get the same levels of performance again from some of the more average players in the squad.
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    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    I'd like for him to be given a chance but I have a feeling Klopp will loan him out again.

    I agree with you about resting on our laurels. We should be looking to sign someone to add a creative spark in midfield but I think Klopp is hoping that Chamberlain & Keita will offer us that. It's definitely risky standing still though.
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    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    A title challenge would be nice but I think we're further off from City than last season's point total indicates, while also being quite a lot better and more consistent than the other "challengers", so I fully expect a 2nd place finish indeed.

    I don't think anyone should "expect" a trophy before the season starts especially in KO competitions where any bad game could see you out of the tournament, but a domestic trophy would be nice yeah. QFs of the CL should be a minimum as well, but definitely achievable given how well Klopp has us performing in European KO ties.

    One big incoming transfer and some back-up for our LB/RB positions would be welcome but if it doesn't happen, hopefully that means that Klopp trusts the youngsters in those positions - I'm anxious to see the likes of Hoever, Van den Berg and Brewster get some regular game-time if they're up for it, so that's one positive to take from little to no transfer activity. Don't think there's any truth in the Nicolas Pepe rumours, and Coutinho won't come back either.

    Keeping everyone fit throughout the season will be key, but it's hard to have faith in Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana and Keita doing just that.
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    I think Liverpool not doing any major business is a bad idea for them, they'll need to improve the squad and possibly bring in a top quality attacking midfielder. When you're on top, you best take advantage and buy the players to keep you there. Obviously you have to look for good deals but if you're not making squad improvements while City already bought someone to improve their midfield, then title hopes are slim (which I assume is Liverpool's aim next season).
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    I hope you get relegated.

    :D

    Sorry, but hard to be anything other than bitter at the moment.
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    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    Fair.
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    horsechoker Sailor vee, this is a right off.

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    An excellent team but thought they rode their luck a lot last season when they were up against it. Definitely not a 97 points a season team but can't see why they couldn't achieve high 80s. They will still be hungry for the PL and I wonder if Pep's team still has the hunger for a 3rd.
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    I have not been following the news much, do you expect to not bring in anyone major?

    If so, it is rather bizarre to see you not looking to cement your positiib as a reborn European powerhouse. I can't imagine you being short of cash, given the CL runs you had in the last two years.
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    I think Liverpool were on the right end of a few key moments in games last season and probably finished with between 6-10 points over expectation while City were around par.

    I think City will win the league by around 10 points this season and Liverpool will be about the same ahead of third.
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    The Boogeyman New Member

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    Klopp has gone on record saying not to expect a big window like last year, but we already knew that since Alisson, Keita, Fabinho, and Shaqiri came in last year, and there simply aren't as many holes to fill now.
    It seems that the media have been briefed not to expect any big signings either, but I don't know whether or not they are just making assumptions that nobody will come in. It seems possible that the club is just keeping its cards close to its vest with those statements.

    Personally, I hope they bring in a pacy wide attacker to rotate with Salah and Mane, and a competent backup for Robertson. In my opinion, Ryan Kent and AOC are the only two with the pace to play like Salah and Mane do, but I don't think Kent has enough quality for that level, and AOC does much better as a midfielder.
  13. Jul 16, 2019
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    Scroto Baggins Full Member

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    Squad is good, dont really see too much in the way of xfers. Couple of tweaks here and there depending upon what Klopp wants. Challenging for the title again with Man C, CL is anyone's to win, always requires a bit of luck. But they will definitely be in the race, and a cup run.

    Them and City really are the benchmark I feel.
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    Seen the highlights of the pre season games Klopp has coached that Liverpool team fantastically. While much is being made of the prominence of Pep / Jürgen the real key to their success is that they stick to their philosophies irrespective of the opposition.

    This level of persistence / consistency is needed nowadays, it's evidently why Sarri ended the season well with Chelsea, ignored the cries of fans to change and got them top 4 and a European cup. Ole could learn a thing or two from observation.
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    Bruno Fernandes to Liverpool. You heard it here first.
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    Klopper76 "Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"

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    I don’t trust you for anything other than League One transfer news.
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    They need a backup LB, backup RB, and a backup forward(someone that can play across the frontline). They dont need a huge window but I'm surprised as to why they wouldn't strengthen while in a position of power. They've failed to do so before and it went badly for them
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    Part me thinks we need another option up front and perhaps cover at left back, but Rhian Brewster does look like he has huge potential. Given the credibility Klopp and the coaching team have built, I'm inclined to trust their judgment. We've been hearing how good this kid is for a few years now but he's had a couple of injury setbacks - looks like he's hit the ground running in pre-season and will be full of confidence. I'm not saying he's going to be Mbappe, but you have to throw them in at some stage.

    Also, with Ox, Gomez, and Lallana back, Keita hopefully kicking on, Fabinho maintaining his level over a whole season I think we're in good shape.

    A good run in the Champions League, a title challenge and another trophy will keep the momentum going nicely.
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    Thisistheone Full Member

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    Can't see them matching last season's points tally. They had a lot of luck in the league. But they'll still be a challenge to City again. These two are well clear of the rest.

    Didn't realise they were in that World Club Cup thing mid season. That could be a problem.
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    VorZakone What would Kenny G do?

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    They need adequate cover for Robertson and Alexander-Arnold. Another offensive player might be useful as well to share some responsibility with Origi and Shaqiri to chip in with extra goals.
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    They dealt with the pressure ok after their blip when they had to win the remainder of their games last season.
    Think they will win it with less points this season.
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    Rhian Brewster watched him at the unders world cup and was hoping for him to kick on from there but has been injured. very talented player. Where does he fit into this team?.

    Firmino the work this guy puts-in is crazy, will the team be the same if you take him out? I think not sadly for Rhian.

    I also think Liverpool did well in managing their injury's your LB's and RB's missed about 13 EPL games. Robertson played 36 games and had 11 assists in the EPL alone. Pogba is our highest with 11 assists.
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    TheLiverBird Full Member

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    It’ll be interesting to see if there’s any legs to the reported Loan move for Coutinho
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    Tomuś Nani is crap, I tell you!

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    It could've been a problem two years ago or so. Now they've got the cover.
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    Raw Full Member

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    Will Liverpool fans welcome him back? From what I saw he left on pretty bad terms right?

    I'd hate for him to go back to Liverpool. He had an annoying ability of producing a goal out of nothing in the tight games where you needed that moment of magic. Add that to an already stable football team and yeah, I'm not going to like that one bit.
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    B20 HEY EVERYONE I IGNORE SOMEONE LOOK AT ME

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    I expect 2nd and some good cup runs.

    We overperformed last season in the league. We need some star quality brought in that can help make that our actual level.
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    robinamicrowave Wanted to be bran, ended up being littlefinger

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    What's the squad looking like right now?
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    Most impressive thing about Liverpool is your ability to sell average players for big bucks - Ings, Sakho, Benteke, Solanke, Ibe...like seriously how do you do it?!
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    TheLiverBird Full Member

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    I’ve had this conversation this morning with a few mates who are also Liverpool fans and we came to the conclusion that regardless to how he left, he would be welcomed back.

    Leaving midway through a season on a good CL run and challenging for top 4 certainly erked a lot of us.

    But I think the Anfield crowd would welcome him back on the whole, social media support and actual stadium crowd support are too massively different things I’ve discovered.

    He was a fabulous servant before he left, and if his dream team came calling and wanted him now, which Barca did, who are we to demand he delay his dream professional move regardless to how annoying it is mid way through a season.
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    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    Gomez will be first choice next to Van Dijk if he's fit. Otherwise I'd say that's spot on, midfield will be very interchangeable once again - Milner, Ox, Henderson, Keita will fight for the remaining spot next to Wijnaldum and Fabinho, I feel.
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    robinamicrowave Wanted to be bran, ended up being littlefinger

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    Strange to head into the season with only two specialist full-backs and no adequate replacements in the squad for your system. You're really relying on fitness.
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    RobinLFC Cries when Liverpool doesn't get praised

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    Don't think that's true, e.g. Milner and Gomez can play at either full-back position. Agreed though that it'd be better if we got a (cheap, second option) LB and RB in.
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    Thisistheone Full Member

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    Think they managed to play Alison, Robertson, Van Dijk, Salah and Mane pretty much every league game last season. One or two of them missing games will be a problem imo. I mean in terms of matching last seasons level, which is probably needed to topple City.

    City on the other hand missed KdB for most of the league and Fernandinho and Aguero at times.
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    The problem is though, if you've got 2 of the best full-backs around anyone you sign will probably be inferior anyway. The same could be said for other positions too. I don't think Klopp, or the owners, are resting on their laurels here. I'd say we have a pretty strong, well balanced, squad now, & a very strong team spirit. When a club gets to that stage, it gets more difficult to find players who are actually available who'll help the side do better. That's not to say we can't improve, it's more of a case who's out there right now that can make the difference.
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    I think the idea that teams need an entire season to "find out a team/tactic/player" is cliche as usual.

    That said, Liverpool's setup where TAA and Robertson served as primary playmakers was very unique, I don't think I've ever seen that before in my time watching football. It worked very well, but I would guess Klopp wants his midfield to chip in more in that regard. Maybe that's why he's experimented with Lallana playing deep? Ox coming back should provide another threat from midfield as well.

    I think Liverpool are good for at least 90 points this season again. Whether they win the league comes down to how consistent City are.
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    robinamicrowave Wanted to be bran, ended up being littlefinger

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    We have two of the best wingers in the world in Sterling and Bernardo. Doesn't stop us also having Mahrez and Sane, you know?
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    Using how Man City do their squad building and transfer business as a barometer for other teams in the league is kinda pointless to be honest. They have a 2nd 11 good enough for most teams. They work on a whole different plain to pretty much every other team.

    As for LFC and full-backs, it's perfectly normal for Jürgen Klopp to go about things this way, he's done it his whole career, using players from other positions, and using them as back-ups to full-backs. Did it with the likes of Grosskreutz, Durm and Ginter, done it with Milner, it's how he is. Wouldnt be surprised if he's tagged a couple players in the U23's as being suitable to be coached and moulded into that role.
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    TwoSheds More sheds (and tiles) than you, probably

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    feck off.
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    Are you feeling sicks?

    :p
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    Negotiation skills of Michael Edwards and not having to send the dithering Ian Ayre on his motorbike to Ukraine to wrap up deals anymore.