He kept a million clean sheets in 05/06 and 06/07 if you look back at those seasons.
Liverpool's GK's since Grobbelaar
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Dudek was a mix bag, great games and some terrible ones. I think that competing with Kirkland ( who was the golden boy of English press at that time) hindered Dudek's chances to establish himself as top keeper.
also I don't recall Brad Firedel playing for Pool. I always considered him a very good keeper.
also I don't recall Brad Firedel playing for Pool. I always considered him a very good keeper.
In fairness he was - He won a cap against Greece in August 2006
His Dad won a massive bet from that.
While Reina was the best of that lot he was still pretty much the Spanish Barthez, capable of astonishing world class saves but then also really terrible mistakes (the one away to Everton will always live long in the memories of great goalkeeping mistakes)
True - Good with his feet though - cant help thinking he would actually be rated a bit higher now days with the increased emphasis on keepers being able to pass the ball well
I remember Reina not being at his best near the end - but surely he was still better than the likes of Mignolet or Karius? Would have been better to keep him given the replacements.
I did wonder if Pep may have gone for him last summer considering he had him for a season at Bayern Munich.
Benitez wants him but why would you swop Napoli for Newcastle?
Friedel was poor for us. He later stated that failing at Liverpool was the wakeup call he needed to really start his career.
Dudek was very good for one season, then pish.
Of the lot, only reina was good enough for where we wanted to be
Dudek was very good for one season, then pish.
Of the lot, only reina was good enough for where we wanted to be
Money?... I think his wages were lowered by Napoli
http://ghanasoccernet.com/napoli-offer-pepe-reina-new-contract-but-salary-reduced
If it is now less than €2m a year whats that €38k a week or around £35k a week... I guess Newcastle could offer a fair bit higher?
Maybe but he is playing for a team with the profile of Liverpool. Napoli are regularly in CL and could win Seria A this season.
Goes to Newcastle and best they can do is stay up. He'll probably be long retired by the time they get good again.
Mike Hooper is missing from the list
Not that would help improve it any
Not that would help improve it any
That was basically because he never used to miss games. In all 3 of his golden globe seasons he played all 38 games. VDS and Cech were often more likely to get a CS but missed a few matches or were rested so didn't win.
True - I guess it comes down to the fact that perhaps he has one contract left in him to financially secure his and his family's future as best he can.
I'm sure he would love to win a title
I'm sure he is already by most peoples standards exceptionally wealthy
I'm also sure having an extra Million or two to hand onto his kids is something that he would love to do.
Its up to him to weigh it up but honestly could see the arguments for either decision... if it was me Id be wanting my agent to use the supposed interest and get me some extra cash and have the best of both worlds
Maybe but let's remember he was behind a defence of Finnan-Carragher-Finnan-Riise in that period so not comparable to the back 4s Man. United and Chelsea had back then.
I said on the other page he was the first real sweeper keeper in the premier league. Watch Liverpool in that period and that back 4 was parked on the halfway line as any ball over the top he'd come out of his box to clear.
Occasioningly it would cost them a goal but it's the same principal with Neuer at Munich.
Napoli players must be getting huge bonuses if they win Seria A.
Imagine being the first group of players since Maradona era to win Seria A and also deny Juventus a title.
Hamsik isn't doing his captain's job properly if he hasn't negotiated a couple of million for everyone if that happens.
05/06 and 06/ 07 were the seasons mentioned
Anyway
Reina played
05/06 32 league games
06/07 35 league games
not as you claim 38 in all three seasons (he did play 38 the following season where he also won the golden glove)
Chech played
05/06 34 Games (more than Reina)
06/07 20 Games
Chech suffered that horrible injury on 14 October 06
Van Der Sar Played
05/06 38 games (more than Reina)
06/07 32 Games
So yeah I think Chech and VDS are better keepers but your just plain wring with what you say ref the seasons mentioned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_Reina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petr_Čech
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_van_der_Sar
Pool is a Keeper graveyard. Even Brad Friedel did nothing whilst on their books
Jesus I forgot about him, now he was truly terribleNo Charles Itandje? Terrible OP.
That's hardly a bad defense and it was coached by benitez who did a good job of protecting them.
Fair fecks. I fecked up.
This is honestly just stupid.
The mental gymnastics to try and discredit Liverpool on that post is just silly.
You're silly.
Since 1957 until 1994 we had three first choice keepers. Tommy Lawrence ( 1957 - 1971 ) , Ray Clemence ( 1971 - 1981 ) , Bruce Grobelaar ( 1981 - 1994 ). Mike Hooper stood in for Grobelaar a few times in the mid / late 80's if I remember correctly. A long serving keeper is essential to any successful team. United had Schmeichel. If a new defender comes into the team then he must feel more confident with a Clemence or Schmeichel who has been there for seasons. Like a few have said apart from Riena the rest have been good some games , average ability or shite . It's another area of our current that needs vastly improving.
The flying pig didn't play until their promotion season in 62/63. Clemence was the best of that trio, good enough to keep Shilton out of the England team for quite a few years.
I had to google him being honest as wasn't born until 71. I knew he played throughout the sixties and was first choice. Clemence was good. I seen him as a kid a few times but lets be honest at that age you are just in awe of it all and buzzing to be at the match. I can comment on Grobelaar though. I think it was against Everton. He just started to dive to his right and the ball took a deflection. Somehow he changed his flight and caught the feckin thing.
Do you lot reckon Allison could break this duck? To be honest I think he is decent but is benefiting from a good Liverpool back line for once.
He certainly is better than what they’ve had this century probably, but still seems prone to the odd clanger. Shades of Lloris about him IMO. Quality, but you would worry about a moment of madness.
Allison is for sure better than the last few goalkeepers Liverpool had. And even when he makes a mistake it doesn't look like it affects his confidence while Mignolet and Karius were the total opposite.
Reina ended up leaving the club because he told Rodgers that if an offer came in from Barca, he was off. That left Rodgers with a dilemma on whether to bring in a new number 1 in anticipation of Reina leaving or a new sub keeper in case he stayed. Rodgers did what I think was the best thing and tried (albeit unsuccessfully) to get in a new number 1. We couldn't have gone into the season with our Doni and Jones as our keepers. He brought in Mignolet who had done really well at Sunderland but it obviously hasn't worked out.
Alisson is the type of goalkeeper signing that we've been craving for years. He's quick off his line, makes the routine saves look easy, makes the tough saves when needed, is good in one on one situations, has great distribution and is a massive calming influence on our back line.
I'd like to see him stop messing around with the ball at the back. Since that goal that Leicester scored against us, he's taken fewer risks but my heart is still in my mouth sometimes although that may be down to years of Mignolet/James experiences
Alisson is the type of goalkeeper signing that we've been craving for years. He's quick off his line, makes the routine saves look easy, makes the tough saves when needed, is good in one on one situations, has great distribution and is a massive calming influence on our back line.
I'd like to see him stop messing around with the ball at the back. Since that goal that Leicester scored against us, he's taken fewer risks but my heart is still in my mouth sometimes although that may be down to years of Mignolet/James experiences
Alisson is fantastic and it’s really irritating.
Very good signing. Bound to happen at some point, considering the utter dross goalkeepers Liverpool have had for the last 25 years. Reina was ok, but declined really quickly (if i remember correctly). The whole Mignolet/Karius situation was hilarious and it’s a shame that farce ended.
Very good signing. Bound to happen at some point, considering the utter dross goalkeepers Liverpool have had for the last 25 years. Reina was ok, but declined really quickly (if i remember correctly). The whole Mignolet/Karius situation was hilarious and it’s a shame that farce ended.
Karius’ performance in the CL final is the only time I’ve ever felt second-hand embarrassment for someone.
Dropped the ball against us.
Dropped the ball in the next match too but got away with it.
Alisson has a clanger in him hopefully that'll ruin their title bid.
Dropped the ball in the next match too but got away with it.
Alisson has a clanger in him hopefully that'll ruin their title bid.
Was Dudek really that bad? IIRC he was a good shot stopper and decent at commanding the box.
Reina got much better since he left them. He had a great game and in the next one laps of focus cost his team a goal. His time at Liverpool was a mixture of great saves and very stupid goals to concede.
The one against Wolves is harsh. The ball deflected off of Lovren which meant he had to adjust.
Leicester and United are his two big clangers so far.
Didnt Alison have a dangerous dribbling in the beginning of the season too, where he lost the ball leading to a dangerous chance?
He looks like a good keeper, but not totally stable (yet)
He looks like a good keeper, but not totally stable (yet)
We're not out of the woods yet.
Our current keeper has made individual mistakes accounting for almost 30% of the goals we've conceded in the league so far.
Our current keeper has made individual mistakes accounting for almost 30% of the goals we've conceded in the league so far.
Would not trust him at all
Mike Hooper? Understudy to Grobbelaar, he was just plain rubbish. OK, he hardly ever got a game but when he did, you could see why he was an understudy!