Ekeke
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You mean an Arsenal fan posted highlights of him where he doesnt show all his fouls and diving?I don't know what you lot are on about, I see a total of one foul committed by him in this entire clip:
No way. Thats unexpected
You mean an Arsenal fan posted highlights of him where he doesnt show all his fouls and diving?I don't know what you lot are on about, I see a total of one foul committed by him in this entire clip:
Oh, yeah. Sorry, didn't watch the match. Just found his stats. He does receive protection from refs, maybe its something to do with favouring the little guy. Doesn't matter to me, happy to be on the favorable end of some decisions after years of seeing them go against us.You mean an Arsenal fan posted highlights of him where he doesnt show all his fouls and diving?
No way. Thats unexpected
Ref called advantage at 4:30 for a foul on Herrera. Then you have his late stamp on Matic's ankle. He was also called back for a late foul on Herrera during a counter attack that's not in the video. Torreira made one successful tackle the whole game, he was late to pretty much everything.I don't know what you lot are on about, I see a total of one foul committed by him in this entire clip:
That would explain it. And yeah every team will have matches like that now and again. We've had our share of matches where Fellaini wasnt sent off for an elbow, or Rojo wasnt sent off for diving in etc even in the past few years.Oh, yeah. Sorry, didn't watch the match. Just found his stats. He does receive protection from refs, maybe its something to do with favouring the little guy. Doesn't matter to me, happy to be on the favorable end of some decisions after years of seeing them go against us.
Torreira was eventually booked for an accumulation of fouls, no? Dirty little prick should have been booked a lot sooner, mind you. He also conceded a blatant penalty when he chopped Martial down without touching the ball.That would explain it. And yeah every team will have matches like that now and again. We've had our share of matches where Fellaini wasnt sent off for an elbow, or Rojo wasnt sent off for diving in etc even in the past few years.
But still if we're talking about this one specific match, Torreira and Guendouzi between them made a lot of fouls that werent given and when they were, they werent booked for accumulation like most players are. They got away with a lot of the dark arts.
I dunno if this will be a regular thing for them. But it was especially annoying for us this week, especially as our best player was someone who was constantly making tackles and interceptions fairly and was stopped several times when he didn't foul his opponent for weak freekicks.
Most annoying thing about him not being booked sooner meant he was given way more time to keep fouling away, he's like Arsenal's version of Casemiro or Fernandinho. Mind you, I won't pretend I don't like having players like that on my team as long as they get away with it.Torreira was eventually booked for an accumulation of fouls, no? Dirty little prick should have been booked a lot sooner, mind you. He also conceded a blatant penalty when he chopped Martial down without touching the ball.
I think the yellow was for a late tackle in front of the box but the ref gave advantage and came back to book him. It wasn't shown on camera, the commentators said it after a replay.Torreira was eventually booked for an accumulation of fouls, no? Dirty little prick should have been booked a lot sooner, mind you. He also conceded a blatant penalty when he chopped Martial down without touching the ball.
True. But I would say the penalty only looked blatant on the replay. At the time it was not very clear.Torreira was eventually booked for an accumulation of fouls, no? Dirty little prick should have been booked a lot sooner, mind you. He also conceded a blatant penalty when he chopped Martial down without touching the ball.
Yeah, definitely. I didn’t spot it in real time anyway.True. But I would say the penalty only looked blatant on the replay. At the time it was not very clear.
Except all those handball goals tgat habe been allowed to stand over the last few seasonsOh, yeah. Sorry, didn't watch the match. Just found his stats. He does receive protection from refs, maybe its something to do with favouring the little guy. Doesn't matter to me, happy to be on the favorable end of some decisions after years of seeing them go against us.
That's what the stats show but looking at that vid he definitely made more tackles/interceptions than thatRef called advantage at 4:30 for a foul on Herrera. Then you have his late stamp on Matic's ankle. He was also called back for a late foul on Herrera during a counter attack that's not in the video. Torreira made one successful tackle the whole game, he was late to pretty much everything.
Next time try not to use an Arsenal based video that will show his best bits. Or better yet watch the game.
Seems like this guy was overrated just because he was the first Arsenal player to tackle in the past 5 years. Completely normal player.
I feel the same way but I agree that fans went overboard with him cos he seemed to show a modicum of grit. In reality he seems pretty average (might progress but I'm not really blown away by what I've seen).
I'm willing to give him a bit more time. He's still a 22(?) year old that's playing in England for the first time, setting into life here & whatnot. Next two seasons will tell if he's good or not.
I feel like that other guy with the long hair is going to have a bigger career. He is even younger, like 19 or something and even though he has made some mistakes when he has been good he has looked like a world beater. Torreira seems like Idrissa Guye level, which is fine.I think he's a good player. One of the better recent Arsenal purchases.
I don't see it with Guendouzi. He looks decent but I think that's mostly because of his age.I feel like that other guy with the long hair is going to have a bigger career. He is even younger, like 19 or something and even though he has made some mistakes when he has been good he has looked like a world beater. Torreira seems like Idrissa Guye level, which is fine.
For Torreiras price he seems a steal.Classic Arsenal hypejob. Another one is Gendouzi, many Arsenal fans are convinced he's destined to be world class, and they've discounted several shocking performances because there's an easy out of his age. United fans have this type of behaviour for Martial, where there's a cult-like belief that he'll be world class, except Arsenal fans do this for any decent player they have. Bear in mind, I think he's a good purchase for Arsenal, a decent young player with potential to be good. But, nowhere near the best midfielders in the league which he was being touted as.
Who said that he was one of the best midfielders in the league?Classic Arsenal hypejob. Another one is Gendouzi, many Arsenal fans are convinced he's destined to be world class, and they've discounted several shocking performances because there's an easy out of his age. United fans have this type of behaviour for Martial, where there's a cult-like belief that he'll be world class, except Arsenal fans do this for any decent player they have. Bear in mind, I think he's a good purchase for Arsenal, a decent young player with potential to be good. But, nowhere near the best midfielders in the league which he was being touted as.
Well Kovacic is on loan so he wasn't cheaper than himHe's a good player. He's not exceptional or world class or anything, but he's good. He started the season very well but his form dipped a bit in the middle of the season, while still being well within acceptable levels. He's got time to grow as well, he's just turned 23. As others have mentioned, for his age and price he's been good business for Arsenal.
Comparing his first season in the EPL with that of other midfield arrivals like Fred, Naby Keita, Kovacic, Jorginho.... I'd say he's done better than all of them and looks more likely to make it long term. Despite being the youngest and cheapest of the lot.