Lucien Agoume
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood), Imran (@Annihilate Now!) & Jamie (@Vault Dweller) celebrate a fantastic victory as Manchester United won 2-0 in the Derby. They celebrate the changes Carrick has made, discuss our new coaching team and find time to play a Stupid Game. Enjoy!
This fact ought to be instructive to the decision makers at United because the two outstanding positions (GK and CM) will put a ceiling on what we can achieve this season. It might also necessitate an early managerial sacking which brings with it uncertainty and kills continuity, we can't always be in this cycle of always offloading unwanted players signed by the previous manager so we must give Amorim the best chance to succeed this season. The fees being touted aren't budget busters, surely a club like United shouldn't have trouble covering a PSR hole of 7m, the consequences of continuing this season with just Casemiro and Ugarte for the DM are too dire to contemplate.
We won't even be on Baleba's horizon if we have another poor season because better placed teams will surely be in for him and, due to poor performances and the need to pay off instalments on previous seasons' signing, we might not have the funding to compete financially. If there had been an opening on the Baleba signing, we would have pushed the boat out or we should have, but we need to scout the best
I think we need this more than anything, more so considering he is decent with the ball.
Ugarte was poorly scouted, it feels like more of a case of us signing the name and not really analyzing a player's skill set and how it would translate to the PL. Hopefully those days are behind us, but you will always have the occasional poor signing - all clubs have them but they are not as detrimental to their performances because the inherent quality in those squads compensates for these duds.
Ugarte's biggest issues are his limitations on the ball, if he was a bit better in possession, he'd be a very good player because his off the ball stats are great.
Especially if someone has excellent positioning he can sweep off the high press.
The problem is we need a good season this season and preferably to also get CL football or at least EL otherwise the gap between us and the chasing pack will be wider. Midfield is going to cost us this season if it doesn't get addressed and for someone costing 35m it won't be too much of a hustle, that is if we don't go crazy with the wage offer, to transition him to a squad role as he would only set us back by 7m a season re PSR.
That's a 10 second 100m so not too shabby.
Not saying that I’m correct, just my impression. But I’d need to watch a bunch of Spanish league to get a full picture. I’m sure that our scouting team have a better full impression of him!Ok. /thread and lets move on
does this chap have a release clause?
Doesnt seem much better than what we have
Don't think I've ever seen him play but if it's 25m or so it's not a huge risk.
Casemiro, Bruno, Ugarte and Mainoo?
He's a totally different profile to anything we have in deep-lying midfield
35m can't remember if that was sterling or euros.
That's a positive, mind you people on this thread keep on commenting about how slow he is
Curious, why do you say that?
Bailly and Martial stuff all broke from foreign sources before it reached the usual Utd ones , so remains to be seen whether this has any legs
I've convinced myself the story has legs. Does Agoume have legs? Unclear.
Oh god, that’s a blast from the past. The caf was full of turning a corner jokes.
Not unless a club like Brighton sign him so that we can moan in two years time about paying £80m for him when we could have had him for less, and how we should sign their recruitment team instead.
Can’t speak to his speed, but he seems a more well rounded CM - can do a bit of everything. Would make him a useful partner to different types of CMs and someone who could step in for Wharton or Baleba after we buy both next summer
Nope. Its a position surrounded by bodies taking up space. Its the outfield position speed is least impactful. On the sides you have space to run down, up front you need to run in behind the defence, in defence you need to track runners running in behind you. In midfield you are the most obstructed from running at full speed, especially if the opponents are pressing you.
I dont even know what hes saying there to be honest. Gaps being too large have nothing to do with speed, its about effort. Neither does speed mean you win the ball back any better. Casemiro was our best ball winner last season and he's the one people say is slow.
Yeah exactly why it makes a lot of sense because can provide us with flexibility depending on opponentsCan’t speak to his speed, but he seems a more well rounded CM - can do a bit of everything. Would make him a useful partner to different types of CMs and someone who could step in for Wharton or Baleba after we buy both next summer
Entourage? LLLOYYYYDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Is his lack of pace a real thing ? I have been googling and can't find any stats beyond what was posted here.
Could be fake news.
Could be fake news.
The real question is would he be a good partner to Bruno? As he is seemingly undroppable and whoever we bring into CM would need to be able to handle the midfield on their own
Seems to have good all round skillset
I read that myself and lost all interest. I am going to watch him on YouTube and make up my own mind.
Not gonna do that unless we look like signing him
The right type of player at the right price. I hope the interest is genuine
Playing Bruno in any 2 is suicide. He'd work in a 433 so would Mount but not in this formation.
I think so. Seems quite disciplined, good ball winner and adds physicality.
I thought this too but the midfield 2 of Bruno & Case did really well v Arsenal
Long shorts, I presume?
Videos suggest otherwise, he looks more than capable of outrunning other players, he’s not exactly at van de Ven or Mbuemo at top speed but how many midfielders are? He’s fast enough, strong and a good passer.
I think too many people have gotten obsessed with speed in midfield. I mean it's great to have but it has never been a necessity, the wide majority of great midfielders historically have never been pacey. You don't want a midfielder that's too slow either but as long as he's not that type of liability, and he knows how to read the game at an advanced level & how to use the ball, those should be the priorities. I haven't seen this guy play but his stats certainly hold up well and suggest that he can both defend & use the ball well.
that's funny bc Ruben completely disagrees with that and made those feelings quite clear at the beginning of the window....he clearly said we need more pace and athleticism in our midfield
Looks like a Carrick type player. He doesnt have the all action, box to box aggression of Baleba. But looks like he wants to sit and control things. Carrick was never that quick, but had good positioning and was able to intercept well rather than be aggressive in the tackle like a Baleba.
I usually don’t do a serious research before it’s very likely that the player join us as well.
Maybe it's Garnacho out and this guy in, still can't see a GK as we seem unable to find takers for Onana or Bayindir
Have we? Because like you said we’ve never had speed so how can we be obsessed with it. However Amorim as pointed this out to be an attribute he would like in his midfielder for this system. Amorim wants us to press like mad and speed in midfield would help this and also help track back… a 2 man midfield is dangerous anyway But I noticed against arsenal he wants Mbeumo to stay forward which would help if we had the right sided cm who was pacy and can get about. Casemiro was very good but he won’t always be.
I like the look of him. Don't think he's as slow as people are saying and seems like a pretty smart decision maker on and off the ball, as well as being quite strong and good in the air. If this is a real link and not BS and we could actually get him for less than 30 million, then I'd pull the trigger. Could do a job for us this year and be a valuable squad member going forward. There's a good chance we'll look to spend most of our budget next summer on midfield with Casemiro leaving and this wouldn't eat too much into that.
Just depth-wise we absolutely need a midfielder unless we're convinced Kone and Fletcher can contribute this year. 4 players just isn't enough, even with one game a week, cosidering Casemiro's age and Mainoo's injury record.
Just depth-wise we absolutely need a midfielder unless we're convinced Kone and Fletcher can contribute this year. 4 players just isn't enough, even with one game a week, cosidering Casemiro's age and Mainoo's injury record.
Is there any credible source linking us to the player?