They don't badly need the money actually. They sold Hakimi for that
this only happens if Lukaku pushes for the move. Or Chelsea offer the kind of money they weren't prepared to offer for Halaand
Lukaku to Chelsea? €100m bid + player rejected
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this only happens if Lukaku pushes for the move. Or Chelsea offer the kind of money they weren't prepared to offer for Halaand
It would be truly crazy if that happens!
Nah, apparently they needed 2 big sales. They were hoping the 2nd would be Martinez, but no one is seriously interested.
They'd be better off with 2 big sales, they don't exactly, like, need *need* it
I do think they need a bit more money - like Martinez wouldn't be going for Lukaku type money, but I think they're struggling to meet the self imposed financial targets without a sale.
I still feel chelsea are not offering them a deal they can't refuse. Right now they are in need of a right wing back. Plus a striker if they were to lose Lukaku.
Definitely a winger to improve on last season. Chelsea with their many first teamers can find 2 out of those plus cash.
Fair enough, as I said, it's nothing more than pedantry when we're here discussing the differences between an offer and an official bid
It's entirely possible that you're correct, of course. I think Chelsea definitely explored the possibility of a Haaland transfer, maybe tried to feel out where Dortmund stood on the matter, but that could possibly be as far as it went.
There truly can't be many players with his goal record that a lot of people still think is a poor player.
In the last 3 years, United have been knocked out in group stages, not qualified for the CL at all, and only once reached the quarters. Is that really much more impressive?
I honestly think he would do well for them. They created lots of chances last season even under Fat Fwank, a flat track bully is exactly what they need to consistently get points in the league. We all know he’s not exactly helpful when it comes to big games and may throw a tantrum if left out but that’s up to Tuchel to deal with it.
Didn't say it was. But if you think the Italian league is to the same standard of the PL then I don't know how to help you.
Brilliant. But that has nothing to do with my point. You're welcome to try again though
But the PL is the most prestigious league in world football though.
Do you guys think we are the problem.? Im looking at pictures of lukaku while he was here and he was so big/fat. Looking at him playing for Inter and the euros, he looks very fit.
How come our coaching staff are so incompetent and cant keep our players in shape?
How come our coaching staff are so incompetent and cant keep our players in shape?
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I really hope they buy him so inter then got cash to take more our deadwood like martial
You're seriously blaming our coaching staff for Lukaku not bothering to stay in shape in his time here? I remember a video floating around of him milling into some chilli cheese chips also with Belgium around that time.
This is a ridiculous statement. You understand the premise of gaining and losing weight? It's calories in vs calories out. If he wanted to lose weight, he just had to be in a deficit. If he wanted to stay in shape, he just had to stop eating so god damn much.
The blame is not just on him. if we had a serious organization they would penalize him for not staying in shape. Martial and pogba both looked heavy last season also. Penalise them. Mancini immediately put Lukaku on a diet plan once he arrived. Thats good management.
No its not. Management/fitness coaches are there for a reason. Its their job to make sure our players stay in shape.
No most people would have admitted back then that he was a goalscorer, I dont think there was much argument about that, the two things he was generally accused of:
1) having a terrible first touch, I remember the youtube clips where the ball bounces off him
2) he only played well against the weaker teams, I am not sure how true that was, but that was the narrative I remember
Most people didnt think he could fit in with the style we were seeing under OIe, that was why we wanted rid, not because he could not score goals.
Maybe he only learned discipline in eating when he left us
Who taught him? Why couldn't we teach him? Its incompetence. Need to start fining these guys.
That was one of the most ridiculous things i've seen, fitness-wise, from a United player but wasn't the story back then that the guy was intentionally putting on ridiculous amounts of muscle for some reason relating to the World Cup? I can't remember the exact reason but I remember a story of something similar.
The guy went from a lean yet muscular pro athlete at Everton to a world strongest man wannabe for us.
I always felt that Lukaku is a heavy eater when he is stressed or depressed. I really believe he was not happy at all when playing for United, which might have contributed to his eating habits.
Also, it is absolutely the fitness team’s job to make sure their players are in shape. Look at Hazard as the perfect example. Would come in heavy at Chelsea but lose all that weight within 2-3 preseason weeks.
Also, it is absolutely the fitness team’s job to make sure their players are in shape. Look at Hazard as the perfect example. Would come in heavy at Chelsea but lose all that weight within 2-3 preseason weeks.
Lukaku claimed it was a digestion issue:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ited-inter-milan-fat-diet-serie-a9103526.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ited-inter-milan-fat-diet-serie-a9103526.html
I'm sat on the fence thinking if I'd be happy if Chelsea got him.
They're in dire need of a striker. Giroud left, Tammy never hit the heights they were hoping for and Werner is just dreadful when he has to pull the trigger. Chelsea have the money to go after a striker and they will bring somebody in, that's for sure. So - that's something we have to accept. And Lukaku will definitely improve them.
The blessing in disguise is that if they bring him, that's another club out of the race for Haaland, who's definitely leaving Dortmund next year. So in that sense, I'd be happy that Chelsea get him.
Chelsea: Lukaku, City: Kane, Madrid: Mbappe, Barca: they're skint + Messi and Aguero, Juventus: ?, PSG: ?, Liverpool: would he even fancy them?
They're in dire need of a striker. Giroud left, Tammy never hit the heights they were hoping for and Werner is just dreadful when he has to pull the trigger. Chelsea have the money to go after a striker and they will bring somebody in, that's for sure. So - that's something we have to accept. And Lukaku will definitely improve them.
The blessing in disguise is that if they bring him, that's another club out of the race for Haaland, who's definitely leaving Dortmund next year. So in that sense, I'd be happy that Chelsea get him.
Chelsea: Lukaku, City: Kane, Madrid: Mbappe, Barca: they're skint + Messi and Aguero, Juventus: ?, PSG: ?, Liverpool: would he even fancy them?
Which our medical team may have missed...
Thought I remembered it right; Lukaku said he wanted to bulk for the World Cup but knew it was a mistake for his club form. Weird reasoning in my opinion.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/09/romelu-lukaku-world-cup-belgium-manchester-united
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/09/romelu-lukaku-world-cup-belgium-manchester-united
It wasn't a dig at United, I just don't think you can accurately measure a clubs level by recent CL performances.
He likes to come up with different excuses. First he hit the gym to bulk up for the world cup, then it was a digestion issue etc
I dont think they had found the issue with digestion then
A much better fit for Tuchel’s Chelsea and the way they play than he ever was for Mourinho’s United. He’d be deadly in this Chelsea team.
You definitely cant. Chelsea are not top 3 teams in the league currently. They are not better than Us, City and Liverpool.
His "bulking up for the world cup" interview was after his interview where he ridiculed suggestions that he was too big.
It's pretty standard Lukakuism.
A month later and it's suddenly an "honest" interview about how bulking up for the world cup affected his club form badly
It's just excuses.
The standard of Serie A is lower than the Premier League. I think only a fool would dare deny that. Look at the clubs below the top 4/5 clubs and try to name a couple of their players. See how many internationals they have. How their teams perform in Europe compared to the English or Spanish clubs.
Even the best Italian players now seem to be moving away from the Italian league, which hasn't been overly common in the past as they've tended to stay closer to home like the best English players do and have.
Anyway the point is, while Lukaku is a very good player. I personally do not rate him as even close to World Class and believe he'll always be in that level below and better in the below World-Class teams and playing against below World-Class opposition. I really didn't like his mentality while he was here and his comments after he left backed up my suspicions about him. I don't like his mentality, i don't like his style of play. Absolutely buzzing when he left. I would prefer that Chelsea do sign him than not. Especially as it would end the Haaland persuit at least for 12 months until they give up on another big-money striker.
No, they tell you what to do. If you don't do it, it's your own fault.
I fail to see how either of these points refutes what I've stated. We desired him to be involved in build play target man style. leading to his first touch gaffes. Our lack of two functioning flanks ensured he would never have the room nor supply to score against any big team.
Yes and after this Inter found he had some digestion issue, Im not saying he didn't use bulking up as an excuse but that doesn't negate the issue with digestion which was found after this
He’s a precious soul. Can’t wait till he crumbles under the weight of expectation again. Maybe then he’ll post how he’s really quite fast in real life... even maybe leak his team mates’ information just to prove it to some folk on Twitter.
Oh Lord, please let Chelsea sign him for €130 million.
Oh Lord, please let Chelsea sign him for €130 million.
Lukaku was the one that claimed his digestion system had "suddenly stopped working"
Believing that, is every bit as naive as believing his sudden need to bulk up for the world cup.