Yakuza_devils
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He is trying to beat Phil Jones' injury records here
I said we should have got rid of him after the Euros, he's nearly always injured.
Incredible that we didn't sign a LB to fill the position, especially when our second LB is also always injured.
No one will buy him. Even if by some miracle they did his wages are too high. Were stuck with him until his contract expires.I said we should have got rid of him after the Euros, he's nearly always injured.
Incredible that we didn't sign a LB to fill the position, especially when our second LB is also always injured.
I wouldn't be surprised if he took pain injections for the Euros only to feck himself up even more for us.How is that possible that he was injured for the whole season, played some minutes in the Euro, and back to injured again when the season starts? I mean, he was injured but he isn't even close to the squad, right?
There is nothing new about him or his injuries. His last decade here has been quite crock-ingIs he the new Phil Jones?
how many years left on his contract? is there a database somewhere that has the years of contracts remaining for the players? this is simply atrocious as regards to his unavailability.
He is slowly getting forgotten. No point regurgitating what everyone says but I will. He's great when fit but that's no good two months of the year.Where is he?
We need him back ASAP. Dalot is good (as a back up for Maza) but he is not a left back and Amass is not yet ready
Nobody wants to buy The Crock Bros who are on 150k and 250k pw,Should be the first player out of the door in the summer even if we get 5m for him, followed by Mount.
Should be the first player out of the door in the summer even if we get 5m for him, followed by Mount.
So 400k - 500k per game. Good for him!!Even if we only gert 15-20 games a season out of him, Shaw is worth keeping, he makes a massive difference when he plays.
ha yes, because it was just recently he has had injury issues.Even if we only gert 15-20 games a season out of him, Shaw is worth keeping, he makes a massive difference when he plays.
Let's not forget that his recent injury issues were not helped by him been rushed back by us, and Southgate been stupid and taking him to the Euros, which is not his fault.
Mark my words. He'll be back when we're in a good run of form.
So 400k - 500k per game. Good for him!!
Someone like West Ham will.Nobody wants to buy The Crock Bros who are on 150k and 250k pw,
I don’t think so hey. It means you’d need a backup to be as good as to him, basically, otherwise the drop off in quality for over half a season is something you’d need to deal with. That’s not how you built a stable/consistent team, capable of challenging IMO. And I’m someone who likes shaw/believes in his quality. But he’s just too unreliable.Even if we only gert 15-20 games a season out of him, Shaw is worth keeping, he makes a massive difference when he plays.
Let's not forget that his recent injury issues were not helped by him been rushed back by us, and Southgate been stupid and taking him to the Euros, which is not his fault.
ha yes, because it was just recently he has had injury issues.
He will not be back anytime soon.
That is one nonsensical line of argument.Not sure many of our players have been value for money in the last few years, so it's a bit odd to level this at Shaw.
I don’t think so hey. It means you’d need a backup to be as good as to him, basically, otherwise the drop off in quality for over half a season is something you’d need to deal with. That’s not how you built a stable/consistent team, capable of challenging IMO. And I’m someone who likes shaw/believes in his quality. But he’s just too unreliable.
That is one nonsensical line of argument.
So we are using the 220 days injured in 23/24 > 190 days injured in 2017/18 > 131 days in 2014/15 argument?Yes, but nothing like he's had in the year or so.
So we are using the 220 days injured in 23/24 > 190 days injured in 2017/18 > 131 days in 2014/15 argument?
That's what you are getting at. By saying "nothing like this before" you are suggesting that Shaw being injured for 220 days in 23/24 as some sort of anamoly. When the fact is its on par with Shaw's career at United in the past 10 years. He has been a regular hospital case in the past decade. Some 20 days or 30 days more or less doesn't really matter.I don't know this arguement, but it seems a poor one.
Other players being worse than Shaw, when available, is not really a brownie point for Shaw. No one questions Shaw's abilities, but player availability is key to any team's plans. You can be the best player in your position, but if the team cannot rely on you to be available, then it makes it moot.How?
That’s the point - no one being at or close to Shaw’s level would be willing to play second fiddle to “when shaw is fit”. So it’s difficult to build a consistent and winning team when your supposed top players are only available for half the season, if that.Where do you find a back up as good as Shaw? He is so far above any other player we are likely to sign to replace him that he is worth perservering even if just to show us what we are missing when he is out injured.
That’s the point - no one being at or close to Shaw’s level would be willing to play second fiddle to “when shaw is fit”. So it’s difficult to build a consistent and winning team when your supposed top players are only available for half the season, if that.
Yep, there are loads of reasons - I never said otherwise. We can agree to disagree on this anyway. I’m actually quite a big Shaw fan but his unavailability is becoming a massive liability to the team.I struggle with this, more so are there are so many other reasons why aren't building a 'consistent and winning team' just now.
Shaw is about as good as we've got when he plays, and we'd be idiots to get rid for an inferior player just because he might play more games.
100%Surely we should be moving him on next summer?