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2024-25 Performances

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5.3 Season Average Rating
Appearances
10
Clean sheets
2
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
1
I think he is going to be very important for the rest of the season.

We need to play him at LWB, even if he has lost his pace, his crossing is still too good to just keep him at CB when we have no attacking players on the wing.

Shaw must be a wingback in Europe especially now Dalot might not play.
 
His quality is undeniable. The difference when he went into that LWB position was night and day. He just has to give us these 3 last Europa League games before (hopefully not) falling apart again.
 
Thought he had a really poor 70 minutes where he looked way off it. Wasn't picking up players, gave us nothing in possession and looked really stiff and cumbersome.

Last 30 minutes was a reminder of how good he can be. He found another gear from somewhere, was constantly making intelligent overlaps and had a string of incisive passes and dangerous deliveries.
 
He looked pretty rusty. Better when he had the freedom to play against 10 men but ultimately looked frightened to break into a full sprint. Sad to see really
 
I hope we have zero intention on relying on him next season
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
Thought he had a really poor 70 minutes where he looked way off it. Wasn't picking up players, gave us nothing in possession and looked really stiff and cumbersome.

Last 30 minutes was a reminder of how good he can be. He found another gear from somewhere, was constantly making intelligent overlaps and had a string of incisive passes and dangerous deliveries.
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I hate seeing him and Maguire close to each other. It's never a good partnership.
 
His quality on the ball can't be questioned, but his defensive awareness looks poor. I'd be concerned if he starts on Thursday.
 
11th season at the club, despite that experience he still managed to dawdle on the ball and give an awfully thought out pass to Dorgu who was immediately pressured resulting in Bournemouth's goal.

Yes he was better when he shifted wider, but he still has all those same negatives to his game that will never go away.
 
First start in over a year, was obviously rusty but found himself in the last 30 minutes.
 
By the time he gets back up to full match fitness he’ll probably end up getting injured again, anyway.
 
Would rather see Lindelof than him at LCB, if it comes down to it. At LWB I wouldn't mind seeing him start the match depending on the other options that are available.
 
We know if we need a goal we can put him on LWB and his crossing will be a useful asset.

The problem is I doubt he can be a full time LWB for 90 minutes every week at this stage given his injuries and general stamina issues.

He's not looked great at LCB so far but it's a small sample when he's not played for a year so I'd cut him some slack for now.
 
He’s clearly our best LWB, our attacking threat increased a lot when we put him there, albeit against 10 men.
Still cannot be considered any kind of option as no doubt he’ll be injured by next weekend.
 
How many goals have we actually scored from his crosses in last 10 years? Judging by the comments here you would think he is left footed Arnold and his crosses are exactly what we lacked all these years.

I bet we haven't scored more than 3-4 headers from his crosses in his 11 years here. I actually doubt he has more than 20 assists overall.
 
Amar__ said:
How many goals have we actually scored from his crosses in last 10 years? Judging by the comments here you would think he is left footed Arnold and his crosses are exactly what we lacked all these years.

I bet we haven't scored more than 3-4 headers from his crosses in his 11 years here. I actually doubt he has more than 20 assists overall.
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He has 30 assists overall 18 in the league. Its not that great though, he has good delivery but he just for me didn’t get forward enough and was never aggressive enough as an attacking threat.
 
Amar__ said:
How many goals have we actually scored from his crosses in last 10 years? Judging by the comments here you would think he is left footed Arnold and his crosses are exactly what we lacked all these years.

I bet we haven't scored more than 3-4 headers from his crosses in his 11 years here. I actually doubt he has more than 20 assists overall.
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In the league he has 17 assists overall. And I doubt most of them came from crosses. He is a historical overrated player, who peaked in 2021 and he had been pretty much average (or injured) since then.
 
Cassidy said:
He has 30 assists overall 18 in the league. Its not that great though, he has good delivery but he just for me didn’t get forward enough and was never aggressive enough as an attacking threat.
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That's more than I thought. Still, that's around 1,5 assists per year on average in the league.

Yeah, his finess and quality of the delivery is quite decent, however I don't think his choice of target and timing has been that great over the years. Problem is also his number of repetiton, he would do it few times and disappear for couple of spells during one game.
 
Amar__ said:
How many goals have we actually scored from his crosses in last 10 years? Judging by the comments here you would think he is left footed Arnold and his crosses are exactly what we lacked all these years.

I bet we haven't scored more than 3-4 headers from his crosses in his 11 years here. I actually doubt he has more than 20 assists overall.
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His crossing was relatively poor up until 20/21. That's part of what made him so good that season, as his delivery suddenly improved significantly. While he's obviously not a TAA or anything, his crossing has been good (borderline very good) since then. Unfortunately he's spent three of the four years since then missing a lot of games.
 
Looked rusty as feck and played a so so game. But the bar is set so so low, that the "good*" and "best player in that position*" posts start coming out.


* T&C apply.
 
What I would say is we never handle his return from injury very well.

No matter how long he's been out for we always chuck him in at the deep end. It's never a gradual return. Happening again now.
 
His future has to be at centre back which is unfortunate as he’s very good from wide.
 
Marwood said:
What I would say is we never handle his return from injury very well.

No matter how long he's been out for we always chuck him in at the deep end. It's never a gradual return. Happening again now.
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he needs minutes as fast as possible. And it's a worth a gamble, since he will probably be released anyway. so it's now or never for him, at least now he can be of some help helping us winning the EL. If he can't handle the pressure and gets injured it's time to say goodbye regardless of how much rushed back he is.
 
Poborsky's hair said:
he needs minutes as fast as possible. And it's a worth a gamble, since he will probably be released anyway. so it's now or never for him, at least now he can be of some help helping us winning the EL. If he can't handle the pressure and gets injured it's time to say goodbye regardless of how much rushed back he is.
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How does that work? Is his contract running out?
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
Thought he had a really poor 70 minutes where he looked way off it. Wasn't picking up players, gave us nothing in possession and looked really stiff and cumbersome.

Last 30 minutes was a reminder of how good he can be. He found another gear from somewhere, was constantly making intelligent overlaps and had a string of incisive passes and dangerous deliveries.
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Exactly the same match I was watching albeit I'm not sure he was that special in the last 30, just doing his job.

No way we can let him start in such an important match imo. He's a liability on pair with Onana in current form. Very afraid he'll cost us. Let's not forget he cost us against Lyon, but it's all forgotten because of the great comeback. Could have cost us again on at least 2 times against Bournemouth. He's great, but he's not fit imo.
 
ROFLUTION said:
Exactly the same match I was watching albeit I'm not sure he was that special in the last 30, just doing his job.

No way we can let him start in such an important match imo. He's a liability on pair with Onana in current form. Very afraid he'll cost us. Let's not forget he cost us against Lyon, but it's all forgotten because of the great comeback. Could have cost us again on at least 2 times against Bournemouth. He's great, but he's not fit imo.
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I feel like he is improving as he's getting more gametime, but I do worry that this game has come too soon. It might be best for him to miss this game, play against Brentford and then hopefully he'll have played himself into better form for the second leg.

In saying that, I'm not sure who our options are. Lindelof? He's been poor for the last two seasons (admittedly looked a bit better in his last couple of games). Amass, who is incredibly inexperienced and it has shown a couple of times? Evans who hasn't played in ages? Fredricson who is even more inexperienced than Amass? Whoever we pick is going to be a risk.
 
MadDogg said:
I feel like he is improving as he's getting more gametime, but I do worry that this game has come too soon. It might be best for him to miss this game, play against Brentford and then hopefully he'll have played himself into better form for the second leg.

In saying that, I'm not sure who our options are. Lindelof? He's been poor for the last two seasons (admittedly looked a bit better in his last couple of games). Amass, who is incredibly inexperienced and it has shown a couple of times? Evans who hasn't played in ages? Fredricson who is even more inexperienced than Amass? Whoever we pick is going to be a risk.
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Tbh I'd risk it with Amass as LWB. Because he has shown he's capable to play there, but more importantly, we'll have a much more coherent and better 3 backline with Maz-Maguire-Yoro(Dorgu RWB). I can't watch Maguire and Shaw together at the back, both have such stupid mistakes in them.
 
I would start Shaw. A draw is all we need in the first leg and his experience will be immense in the early phases of the game when we're dealing with the onslaught from Bilbao. If he tires, we sub him off, perhaps for Amass. But starting Amass in a match like this is asking too much of him.
 
lex talionis said:
I would start Shaw. A draw is all we need in the first leg and his experience will be immense in the early phases of the game when we're dealing with the onslaught from Bilbao. If he tires, we sub him off, perhaps for Amass. But starting Amass in a match like this is asking too much of him.
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Did you watch Shaw the last 2 appearances?
 
lex talionis said:
I would start Shaw. A draw is all we need in the first leg and his experience will be immense in the early phases of the game when we're dealing with the onslaught from Bilbao. If he tires, we sub him off, perhaps for Amass. But starting Amass in a match like this is asking too much of him.
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Disagree, it’s the end of the season with a vital game where Shaw is still rusty on all aspects.

Risky to play him at LWB considering you gotta be up and down.

Long term future, he needs to be gone and no longer should be considered an option. Loan him if we can, he’s not reliable.
 
Brazilian_Ronaldo_9 said:
Disagree, it’s the end of the season with a vital game where Shaw is still rusty on all aspects.

Risky to play him at LWB considering you gotta be up and down.

Long term future, he needs to be gone and no longer should be considered an option. Loan him if we can, he’s not reliable.
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If Shaw starts it'll probably be at LCB, with Mazraoui moving out to RWB.
 
Brazilian_Ronaldo_9 said:
Disagree, it’s the end of the season with a vital game where Shaw is still rusty on all aspects.

Risky to play him at LWB considering you gotta be up and down.

Long term future, he needs to be gone and no longer should be considered an option. Loan him if we can, he’s not reliable.
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Long term, he should retire with grace and gratitude that his paycheck read "Manchester United Football Club".

But right now, we're short on bodies and we cannot afford to get blown off the park at the San Mames. I really like Harry Amass and see in him a footballer who could start for the England NT someday, but right now he's a newbie who although has yet to put a foot in wrong is still just a talented young footballer who just turned 18 a few weeks ago.
 
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