dubplate warrior
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You have to worry. I think he's going to drop of this season.
We badly need a LB. He is a net negative on the ball and most of the time outside of his defensive third. He's very experienced so won't make critical mistakes but his overall play leave so much to be desired.
I notice that my take is more harsh than others but I honestly don't believe people are truly watching Shaw on and off the ball.
The majority of his touches on the ball takes him backwards or on his back foot. Therefore, if there is any semi competent pressing or positional tracking back from an opponent, he will pass it back or let the opposition get in front of him. What that means is that he barely passes through the lines, barely carries the ball past anyone and any good build up is broken down or reset through his inactions. Off the ball he gives him team mates very little support or easy first pass options. Against Rosenberg, I will caveat that he did make some decent overlaps for Dorgu but that's a rarity nowadays. Many times Heaven was trying to build up from the back or hold onto the ball to look for a better option other than a hoof and Shaw was 20 yards away or positioned in a way where an opposition could easily intercept i.e meaning he wasn't an option at all. When he does actually get the ball to feet and has time to pass it, he takes awkward positions where he's not really able to play quick 1-2s or offer a run off the ball. His passing technique is ridiculous inconsistent for a player of his supposed ability; too many outside of the boot flicks, toe pokes or bumbling balls.
This is not just based on 2 pre-season games, it's been apparent for years now at this point. Like I said before, because of his experience, he's doing the things to not make big mistakes and 'not lose' due to his defensive contributions but his overall game is quite shocking once you remove his reputation. I implore anyone to actually watch he does for the whole time he is on the pitch.
6-7 years ago...
Infuriating he still playing for us and with such a high salary.
I felt bad for him.
It’s weird because it’s not even like he bombs forward enough to be getting caught out of position like this. It’d be a lot more understandable if that was the case.Astonishingly terrible performance from him. For all four of their goals, he was completely absent from his LB position. Just nowhere to be found, leaving Milan's right winger completely unchallenged. All four of their goals came from his failure to even be present in his position.
Why? He's one of our highest earning players, at fullback.
He's fecking lucky standards dropped through the floor during his time because Keane or Sir Alex would have throttled him at some point given how he is
Five posts hating on Rashford in 30 mins. Well doneI just explained why under my post. All those years playing behind Rashford marking 2 players? I know who I'd fecking throttle and it's not Shaw
I didn't watch the game, but this is surely a little hyperbolic for a friendly?!When you can't even be present in your position's area throughout a whole game, you have no business being a professional footballer. That was one of the very worst performances by any United player this decade. Truly inexcusable. All four of their goals were caused by him being nowhere near the LB position that he pretends to occupy. That should be the end of his career.
Five posts hating on Rashford in 30 mins. Well done
I just explained why under my post. All those years playing behind Rashford marking 2 players? I know who I'd fecking throttle and it's not Shaw
We're a week from the season's start, and it was an important friendly against our previous manager. It was by no means an irrelevant game. When someone puts in a 0/10 performance a week before the season begins, it's telling.I didn't watch the game, but this is surely a little hyperbolic for a friendly?!
Pretty insane to watch that performance and blame it on Rashford
Honest question was Shaw in position for any goal today? Go and watch them back. For 2-2 Shaw no where to be seen, Maybe Rashford could have got out quicker to the left on the 3rd but again, Shaw MIA as well as Martinez really and then then the 4th is ridiculous.Did he get back and help shaw once? Honest question
He was completely absent from the LB position on all four of their goals. He wasn't even in the general vicinity. Their RW went totally unopposed all game.Honest question was Shaw in position for any goal today? Go and watch them back. For 2-2 Shaw no where to be seen, Maybe Rashford could have got out quicker to the left on the 3rd but again, Shaw MIA as well as Martinez really and then then the 4th is ridiculous.
Literally tackled someone on their byline? Was probably a foul but still...I think you put any LB in world football behind Rashford and they are going to have a really tough time in most games. He was fresh and he didn't track back at all. 0 tackles or blocks. Cunha is just a much less selfish player, same with Gordon
Hard to believe he's had a full pre season. Plays like he just came back from a 15 pints a night stag do.
A couple of nice passes in behind and got on the end of Lisandro playing a nice long pass too, but defensively some questions were raised

To be fair for the first three goals Milan simply created overlaps where it was 2v1 against Shaw (in fact for the second goal it was a 3v1) and he had to choose between leaving somebody completely open in the middle of the field or leaving somebody completely open in the wider areas. Each time he chose to cover the more central player who in theory was the more dangerous player. Watching it live I thought much the same as you, but watching it back shows just how ridiculously exposed we were leaving him. No matter which decision he made (whether to stay wide or cover the central player) Milan would have just went straight through whichever one he left open.He was completely absent from the LB position on all four of their goals. He wasn't even in the general vicinity. Their RW went totally unopposed all game.