If I was to advice him i'd tell him to leave in the summer. He's being kept out of the side by a very limited Ashley Young, he's being told publically he's not good enough - i don't think the manager respects him. I'd advice him to move, get his head down and prove a point.
Luke Shaw next move?
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Wherever he ends up, he'll still spend most his time down the pub
£30 million for Shaw! Yes please. Do you want him giftwrapped with ribbons or string?I'd certainly take him back, Jose's comments on him have been horrific all season, then half way through the season calling him the best left back in Europe. There is a definite problem with Jose and the younger players, Martial, Pogba and Shaw, I think Rashford is a United kid sommuch less likely to kick up a fuss. I'd certainly give what a chance at Tottenham, what would his value be now, £20-30M. Jose has basically said he doesn't want him.
In hindsight yes he would.
Do we really need another Luke Shaw thread? This has all been discussed to death in the Luke Shaw performances thread.
He will definitely be leaving in the summer, would take him at Chelsea but think he may end up at spurs potentially.
A Jiffy bag
.They do have a knack of making average players look good.
Seriously though i expect Shaw will end like the rest of our failed full backs, Simpson, Buttner, De Laet, Fabio, Richardson and move to a lower PL team before disappearing.
Imagine he’d have offers from a lot of top clubs, sure he’ll be fine for work if he leaves. Will he become the next KDB or Salah is a different question.
Send him out on loan to a PL club. He needs games you can see that his time off due to injury and fitness has made him extremely rusty and devoid of any confidence.
All that said and done, I dont understand how a young player cannot be motivated to do well when he is at the biggest club in England! That itself should be a motivation for any player young or old to do the best they can.
All that said and done, I dont understand how a young player cannot be motivated to do well when he is at the biggest club in England! That itself should be a motivation for any player young or old to do the best they can.
Performances thread is for discussing performances, not where he'll be moving to.
Shame Liverpool didn't get their first target last season (Götze instead of Mane) and this season (Brandt instead of Salah). I don't think Liverpool would be anywhere near their current position with those two.
So you say his comments all season have been horrific yet in next sentence you mention that he said he could be the best left back in Europe..I'd certainly take him back, Jose's comments on him have been horrific all season, then half way through the season calling him the best left back in Europe. There is a definite problem with Jose and the younger players, Martial, Pogba and Shaw, I think Rashford is a United kid sommuch less likely to kick up a fuss. I'd certainly give what a chance at Tottenham, what would his value be now, £20-30M. Jose has basically said he doesn't want him
There is no ‘problem with Jose and younger players’ you’re simply recycling soundbites from the gutter press. Pogba- he’s lost form but Jose obviously wanted him and sees him as integral for future seeing as he bought him.
Martial does play often and sometimes well, sometimes not. But he’s playing him as funnily enough Jose wants United to score goals. He also funnily enough would like Shaw to realise his potential.
Shaw has had 4 managers question his commitment now yet because it’s Jose it gets turns into ‘bullying’ or as you said ‘horrific’ .
People still love to hate United as everybody knows we’re the biggest club in England and any little dip in form/results will unleash drivel which rival fans will just latch onto. I mean even Chris Sutton is apparently note worthy to critique Jose, I mean it’s ridiculous really. And the problem with pundits and media talking drivel is that their sound bites will be repeated constantly by rival fans and then suddenly the narrative becomes the truth.
Before the Leicester v Chelsea game I heard Lineker say ‘looking forward to a good game between two attacking teams’ Chelsea are garbage and play more defensive stuff than us!
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Depends on whether or not Poch thinks he can get more out of him than when he was at Southampton. One of the managers who's been critical of his attitude.
This. May as well loan him out to a mid-table club to see how he does. Would be terrible if he flops and we lose a decent fee later on though.
If he moves then Leicester. Would have said Everton but they already have some good fbs.
If Shaw is such a fat arse, why do you think the manager started him against Brighton?
Just out of curiosity,why is he being termed this prodigious English talent even before his injury. I didn’t like him even back then.
Well, considering he ain't playing any more this season in all likelihood, his next move is likely to the nearest KFC joint.
Because the manager thought he could do his job and follow instructions. He couldn't, so he was hooked.
Leicester is not a bad option he could replace Chilwell. But then again, if he cannot be motivated by being at United, I am not sure how it will help with him being at Leicester.
Maybe a loan move to Spurs? work under Poch get his confidence back and who knows it might turn around good for him and united.
Shades of Anderson, we thought he'd come good for years.
He'll be the his next clubs left back for a decade ya know.
(I think he's great, and wish the gaffer would pick him more).
(I think he's great, and wish the gaffer would pick him more).
Mourinho decided Shaw's fate long before hauling him off in the Brighton game.
Then why is he still a Man Utd player?
I've been to watch Leicester a few times this season and he'd be a definite improvement on Chilwell.
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How brilliant if there's a complete turn around and Shaw pledges his loyalty to the club, puts his head out of his arse and starts performing. As long as there are no direct quotes from Shaw and Mourinho, I'll do as Bon Jovi and keep the faith.
McDonalds.
After Januzaj, Depay, and now Shaw, you'd hope people would learn to stop over hyping every young player who puts on a United shirt. It's such over hyping that leads to such disappointment.
As is the case with everyone we sell nowadays, I think a LOT of fans are going to be pig-sick and have their eyes ripped open when they see what's next for Luke Shaw.
Anyone expecting teams like Spurs to be interested in an overweight, out of shape, injury-prone player who two consecutive United managers have found problematic, are in for a shock.
Put your fecking mortgage on it - by August 1st, 2018, Shaw will be back at Southampton. Mark my words. And it won't be a happy return, either. He'll fail to displace Bertrand or at best, will replace him when a bigger club goes for Bertrand but will not do much of a note.
By 2020, I see Shaw in the Championship.
Anyone expecting teams like Spurs to be interested in an overweight, out of shape, injury-prone player who two consecutive United managers have found problematic, are in for a shock.
Put your fecking mortgage on it - by August 1st, 2018, Shaw will be back at Southampton. Mark my words. And it won't be a happy return, either. He'll fail to displace Bertrand or at best, will replace him when a bigger club goes for Bertrand but will not do much of a note.
By 2020, I see Shaw in the Championship.
Because it's all to do with working the media. He'll be gone in the summer.
We've been told he'll be gone since Mourinho joined. And he's still here and still being given opportunities. Granted, he may have blown his last one but that's on him. He isn't being picked on, he isn't being hard done by, nothing is a 'disgrace'......he just hasn't been good enough in the eyes of the manager. And this isn't the only manager he's had issues with. Won a record transfer to arguably the biggest club in the world and what does he do? Turns up overweight and unfit and has to be placed on a special training programme. Says it all, really.
He should go abroad, Spain or Italy ideally. Get out of the media spotlight and concentrate on his football, and make sure he looks after himself.
I'd have him at Chelsea but I don't think he'd find it any easier under Conte. Maybe with a new manager.
I'd have him at Chelsea but I don't think he'd find it any easier under Conte. Maybe with a new manager.
For all the supposed pampering he will get from Pochettino that will make him shine again, he doesn't really look like the ideal FB/WB for Spurs. The wide players are essential to Spurs' tactics and their main characteristics are great stamina, urgency & aggressiveness behind the ball in the defensive phase, super intensity on & off the ball in the attacking phase and many other things. They are not known either for arriving late in their area of responsibility and for back-stepping when the player on the ball is attacking them which are Shaw's main attributes since his injuries. I don't know what the future holds for Shaw but right now he can be a part of this Spurs' side only if Poch is more of a miracle worker than a manager.
If Shaw comes out and says that he wants to fight for his place at United, I'll be chuffed. If Mourinho still wants to get rid of him then, then so be it.
I hope he shows some fight though.
I hope he shows some fight though.
Hopefully doesn't end up doing a Salah or De Bruyne in a few years.
Hasn't Pochettino criticised his fitness before as well during his Southampton days?
He is so overrated it's crazy there's no way he will make it a club anywhere near Utd's level
He’s just not a very good player. This “Mourinho the bully” narrative is pretty pathetic tbh. Players are like tissue paper these days, then you have some fans thinking Shaw would be starting left back at Barcelona if he wasn’t stuck under the oppressive and cruel Jose Mourinho. No wonder we’re such a fecking failure. Maybe Jose is outdated like some people say, thinking that he can push someone in the chest and expect that man to stand up and push back twice as hard. No, instead they cry and we get stories about how the squad is shocked at what a horrible bully the manager is.
It was 15 years when we were going to sign him
It's a real shame because just before he got his bad injury he was beginning to look fantastic, this is the only time I have really seen what the hype about him was all about.
He clearly has issues now, but no doubt someone will take a chance on him in the summer, if Wenger is still about it wouldn't surprise me if Arsenal took a chance, but sadly I see his struggles continuing where ever he goes.
He clearly has issues now, but no doubt someone will take a chance on him in the summer, if Wenger is still about it wouldn't surprise me if Arsenal took a chance, but sadly I see his struggles continuing where ever he goes.
Could easily happen if he gets his head down somewhere with a manager that suits him. I personally wouldn’t like to see him go.