LVG as our DOF

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It's like finally after months of stress and turmoil, getting rid of your psycho, crazy, soul destroying, life sucking, fun killing, eating disorder girlfriend.

Only to agree to see her at weekends
 

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Great idea. I'm sure his first order of business once in office would be future planning for when we eventually have to replace Fellaini. About ten years from now or so, when his elbows are shot and he just can't compete at the highest level anymore.
 

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It's like finally after months of stress and turmoil, getting rid of your psycho, crazy, soul destroying, life sucking, fun killing, eating disorder girlfriend.
Only to agree to see her at weekends
:lol:
 

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We should've gone for Cruyff.
 

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What a terrible idea.

It takes one or two good wins and we see threads like this popping up all over the place.
Only 1 win is required to have this effect. Our last 5 games: LLDDW
If he won 2 games on the trot, some on here would declare LVG to be our saviour and would plead him to sign a 10 year contract.
 

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Dude, that's below the belt.
Not really, mate - I meant that we should've tried to employ Johan in the time before we signed LVG up.
 

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Hell no.

I don't want him anywhere near the club, when he eventually does leave then he is gone completely never to be spoke of again
 

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Only 1 win is required to have this effect. Our last 5 games: LLDDW
If he won 2 games on the trot, some on here would declare LVG to be our saviour and would plead him to sign a 10 year contract.
Especially if he chucks in one or three youngsters. Then people go all gaga over him.

He's been a failure here. He's tenure should have been done ages ago.
 

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Thread for the mentalists who want Ole as our DOF.

What's wrong with our fanbase? Why can't you just let go?
 

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We should've gone for Cruyff.
That's not realistic. Cruijff had no desire to take on such a job anywhere, even at Ajax. He didn't want any kind of job that would require that level of commitment and his presence on a regular basis, and didn't have that kind of job since he left Barcelona in the 90's. Even when he went out of his way to help Ajax a few years ago, the club he loved, he didn't want to commit to that kind of role there. And mostly had an advising role while continuing to live in Barcelona. And there's no chance that he could've worked with Woodward or United's owners. Cruijff didn't tolerate bussiness people telling him how a club should be run, it was his way or the highway basically, he ousted everyone at Ajax that didn't do what he wanted.

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oops, only now see that your post is 3 years old!
 
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Thread for the mentalists who want Ole as our DOF.

What's wrong with our fanbase? Why can't you just let go?
SOOOO AGREE. Like come on guys, live in the real world. Why do people think running Manchester United should be any different to running any other blue chip company?!
 

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What is this obsession in giving the job to failures (ole, Gaz, LvG)? Let's go for the best in the job instead like paratici, Mitchell or campos
 

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He’s still bitter about being sacked after a cup win, and has said so in many occasions. Too much bad blood for him to be effective working for the same people who embarrassed him a few years ago.
 

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No thanks, signed loads of crap players and we've had a job shifting them.
 

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Guys this thread is from 2016. It was bumped to make the point that history repeats itself on calling for current failing managers to be DoFs
 

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The guy has fallen out with United and Ed in particular. This is such a frivolous thread. Van Gaal is the same guy that sanctioned the purchase of Darmian, Depay, Di Maria, Rojo and Falcao (Loan) and played the likes of McNair and Borthwick Jackson. I don't see how he would make a good DOF even if he was given the chance.
 

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The guy has fallen out with United and Ed in particular. This is such a frivolous thread. Van Gaal is the same guy that sanctioned the purchase of Darmian, Depay, Di Maria, Rojo and Falcao (Loan) and played the likes of McNair and Borthwick Jackson. I don't see how he would make a good DOF even if he was given the chance.
While I disagree with DOF. He played McNair, Borthwich, Jackson and made them look better then they really were. Finished 5th only missing out on a CL due to goal difference... he genuinely did trust youth and he actually coached them quite well because at the time those players were getting hyped and playing well.

He got slaughtered for defensive football but he was our most attacking manager since SAF...the one manager who deserved more time and money
 

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Why are we doing this to ourselves?

No more Moyes, LVG and Jose in whatever capacity. It was fecking nightmares!

Can we appoint people who have proper experience in the roles?
 

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The coach has little say in player purchases at United... only gives opinion and lvg is the type to work with whatever he’s got so it’s hard to pin this on him.
 

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While I disagree with DOF. He played McNair, Borthwich, Jackson and made them look better then they really were. Finished 5th only missing out on a CL due to goal difference... he genuinely did trust youth and he actually coached them quite well because at the time those players were getting hyped and playing well.

He got slaughtered for defensive football but he was our most attacking manager since SAF...the one manager who deserved more time and money
Where do you get that from? Neither the numbers, nor the fan's feeling back then is backing this up. 2016 he finished with 49 goals, which is the lowest of all Managers since SAF retired.
 

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Thread for the mentalists who want Ole as our DOF.

What's wrong with our fanbase? Why can't you just let go?
Our club is going through its Liverpool (90-00s) years, both in terms of the club's decisions and the fan base clinging onto the past.

Ole has done absolutely nothing in his career to suggest he would make a great director of football. He apparently has a great eye for talent because he signed two of the highest rated and very attainable players in the league and followed Giggs' recommendation of buying James.

I wonder if Cardiff fans share this idea that he's got a great eye for talent. Magnus Wolff-Eikrem, Mats Mohler Daelhi, Fabio Da Silva, Jo Inge Bert, etc. There's a theme there of ex-United youth players and Norwegians who used to play for Molde. Does this suggest he has an amazing eye for talent or the contacts to sign hidden gems? To me it suggests laziness and a lack of ideas.

Our most recent coaching addition, De Gea's new goalkeeping coach, used to be United's youth team goalkeeping coach, then Ole took him to Molde, then to Cardiff, and now the guy is back at United in a first team position. Now this guy could be an amazing goalkeeping coach for all I know, but given his career trajectory I doubt it. Again, probably just laziness/a lack of ideas.

There's obviously nothing to this idea that he's a great spotter of talent, and when you consider the fact that a manager being superannuated into a director of football role is almost certainly going to result in friction with the new manager, it would be an awful, if not unexpected, appointment. We need to get a specialist in but given we played failed wingers as our two first choice full backs for a few years, the club clearly doesn't believe in specialists.

It comes from the top with Woodward. He's running a football club and doesn't have the first clue about football. His schtick has infected the fan base.
 

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Guys this thread is from 2016. It was bumped to make the point that history repeats itself on calling for current failing managers to be DoFs
It's incredible how many people have missed the point :lol:
 

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Funny thing is I'd doubt Ole would want to be a DoF, he's been a manager for 10 years.
 

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Where do you get that from? Neither the numbers, nor the fan's feeling back then is backing this up. 2016 he finished with 49 goals, which is the lowest of all Managers since SAF retired.
Look at how he started, until we got beater by Leicester. Look at how he again started in his second season until Luke Shaw got injured.
 

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Why not Ferguson?
He’s old, he’s had a serious brain operation, he wants time with his wife and family, he retired for some very good reasons.
He enjoys watching the football, well I say enjoy, he still likes to socialise by attending the football but he has no responsibilities regarding the club and that is how it should be.
No, Fergie has done his time and has stood down let’s just wish him a long and happy retirement.
Hope that answers your question.
 

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His problem at United was that he was responsible for signing players but had little of experience of doing that as he had coached internationally and for clubs who did the recruitment on his behalf. If a DOF had done all that for him and made better signings, I think LVG would have done a better job and could have brought things on.

He shouldn’t be near recruitment and a first-team coach would find working for him very difficult. I think he’s a much better coach than Moyes, Jose and OGS but he was a bit past his best by the time he got to United and the structure of the club meant he had too much to to do. At least under him the team looked coached and directed, whether you liked the style or not.