Senegal was our least bad game though. Ecuador was much worse amd Qatar doesnt really count since they cant field an actual tram of professional footballers.
King Van Gaal's Orange Army || 19 games unbeaten
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Not been impressed by them at all but USA in the R16 and likely Argentina or Denmark in the QFs, I think their route to the SF is pretty achievable even if I think Spain or Brazil would comfortably beat them in the SF. That said, if you make the SF you never know.
yeah, only 3 of them
I'm hoping that it's all big-brain masterplan moves by Van Gaal.
He's playing the system that he expects to do well against the top countries, and using the groupstage matches as practice for the system and for experimenting with particular specifics (particularly on the midfield). This would also be why he chose not to bring Luuk or Simons yet, because he'd rather keep them as surprise elements when they're actually needed. Same with system changes of any sort.
That said, I'm not sure I myself even want to see this Dutch side become world champions. There's very little to like about them, both in terms of characters and in terms of players.
The back 3 and Frenkie are players I'd like to see on a great Holland side. The rest are not the kind of players that excite me.
In general, with Holland and Ajax, it's really depressing to see other teams/countries play with these exciting, technical youngsters, while we're playing Davy Klaassen.
He's playing the system that he expects to do well against the top countries, and using the groupstage matches as practice for the system and for experimenting with particular specifics (particularly on the midfield). This would also be why he chose not to bring Luuk or Simons yet, because he'd rather keep them as surprise elements when they're actually needed. Same with system changes of any sort.
That said, I'm not sure I myself even want to see this Dutch side become world champions. There's very little to like about them, both in terms of characters and in terms of players.
The back 3 and Frenkie are players I'd like to see on a great Holland side. The rest are not the kind of players that excite me.
In general, with Holland and Ajax, it's really depressing to see other teams/countries play with these exciting, technical youngsters, while we're playing Davy Klaassen.
I actually long to see Feyenoord play while watching Oranje at the moment. That's not happened ofte throughout my life.
LVG - still boring people a decade later.
In the end of his reign here I used to take a walk the first 20-30 minutes and every time i turned on the TV I could be sure it was 0-0 and nothing of note had happened
In the end of his reign here I used to take a walk the first 20-30 minutes and every time i turned on the TV I could be sure it was 0-0 and nothing of note had happened
Louis has been promoting a conservative possession style of play for a while now. I don't how it was when he started with Ajax but his recent teams have been valuing the nil over creativity. Publicly he always makes a big ruckus over his offensive strategy but it's all a ruse. Dutch football culture overwhelmingly favours a creative, offensive playstyle, so it invariably comes as a big disappointment when Louis talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. That said, he's one of the better coaches in international football and he's formed a decent, loyal squad. I wouldn't be surprised if Oranje made it all the way to the finals.
Welcome to the Boredrome! In the meantime, best of luck to Louis and his merry men. Definitely not among the most dislikeable of WC competitors.
Ok let me rephrase that, despite not having any high quality classical strikers. Or do you think the likes Weghorst and Luuk De Jong are similar in quality or at least half as good as RVP, RVN or Kluivert or Huntelaar were for example?yeah, only 3 of them
The reality is, that since RVP and Robben in 2014 the Dutch only had mediocre attacking options not only strikers, which is incredible, looking at their history.Ok let me rephrase that, despite not having any high quality classical strikers. Or do you think the likes Weghorst and Luuk De Jong are similar in quality or at least half as good as RVP, RVN or Kluivert or Huntelaar were for example?
It seems that all their talent went into defenders.
Not an excuse to LVG's style, but there is not more he can do with this team other than defend well and hope for the best in attack.
Is there a Caf award for dumbest question?Ok let me rephrase that, despite not having any high quality classical strikers. Or do you think the likes Weghorst and Luuk De Jong are similar in quality or at least half as good as RVP, RVN or Kluivert or Huntelaar were for example?
I quite liked all the three matches so far in this world cup they played. I think they will go very far in the tournament, despite lacking any real talent up front
He is now too old and stubborn. Surely they have better coaches than LVG?
A good manager can get the team playing better though. Same crap football he had us playing.
At us, he got what he wanted in terms of transfers spending heavily, but we've played shit and finished 4th and 5th which is awful. Most boring football we have ever played.
We had games without shots on target.
Also, he made prime Di Maria look like a muppet, he's the only manager who achieved that.
I feel USA could make it difficult for them but ultimately expect Netherlands to go through, perhaps as late as extra time/on penalties.
De Roon is such a lovable dude. I dont care that he's cack, make him captain.
De Roon is greatHe's a likeable chap. Isn't he from Rotterdam? For those that haven't seen it:
. He's made tons of funny videos. He's got a great atitude on and off the pitch and I'm usually quite happy to see his name on the team sheet.See that before, it's great - especially that Messi joke in his post.He's a likeable chap. Isn't he from Rotterdam? For those that haven't seen it:
I wonder, though: did he really hang out in that store all day long, or did they just record this in five minutes in the knowledge that no-one would show up anyway?
No matter the result, the fact we arent the clear favourite against these MLB rejects is a bit sad.
Just been looking at there previous results and they’ve gone on a good winning run and most of there best wins and performance came when playing a 4-3-3 so why’s LVG changed to a back 3/5? We also played our best football under him with a 4-3-3 when we beat Liverpool at anfield. Don’t get managers that change from a winning formula…
Apparantly some of the players are sick and Vangle is aiming the airconditioning. Antony also complained about it a few days back.
What's the deal with Dutch keepers? Listening to the commentator there, the stetting keeper only started playing for the national team less than two weeks ago, and has only really just become a starter at club level at the age of 28. Has less than 40 career appearances at club level. Quick research into the keepers in the Dutch squad show they have about 11 caps between all 3 of them.
Is there a gaping gap in quality or is LVG just taking the piss?
Is there a gaping gap in quality or is LVG just taking the piss?
This thread is "Bohoo look at us we're dutch, our only claim to fame is for losing, but we'd rather keep losing because this team is boring also Vangle is so bad, we failed to qualify for the 2016 euros and 2018 world cup and the Czech Republic took the piss out of us at the last euros and now Vangle has us 40 minutes from an easy WC quartefinal but he's a fraud bohoo"
Fecking Holland
Fecking Holland
I take it Italy didn't qualify then?This thread is "Bohoo look at us we're dutch, our only claim to fame is for losing, but we'd rather keep losing because this team is boring also Vangle is so bad, we failed to qualify for the 2016 euros and 2018 world cup and the Czech Republic took the piss out of us at the last euros and now Vangle has us 40 minutes from an easy WC quartefinal but he's a fraud bohoo"
Fecking Holland
Total lack of quality goalkeepers. Has been like that for years actually. Noppert isn't bad though, although it's very Van Gaal to play him instead of someone with a bit more experience. He also totally should have taken Flekken along instead of Pasveer, but it wouldn't really have made a difference.
Yep, Vangle taking the piss.
Stop listening in our strategy meetingsThis thread is "Bohoo look at us we're dutch, our only claim to fame is for losing, but we'd rather keep losing because this team is boring also Vangle is so bad, we failed to qualify for the 2016 euros and 2018 world cup and the Czech Republic took the piss out of us at the last euros and now Vangle has us 40 minutes from an easy WC quartefinal but he's a fraud bohoo"
Fecking Holland
LVG seems to be doing a great job with a Netherlands side not exactly packed with quality. England has a much better squad and played against the USA with even more caution and were fortunate to get a draw. The Yanks have yet to lay a glove on the Dutch and you suspect they're a break away from making this three. I've no idea what the fans are complaining about.
We've upped our game compared to the group stages.
I think I cursed you...
Another insanely comfortable game tonight but it was so boring!!!!This thread is "Bohoo look at us we're dutch, our only claim to fame is for losing, but we'd rather keep losing because this team is boring also Vangle is so bad, we failed to qualify for the 2016 euros and 2018 world cup and the Czech Republic took the piss out of us at the last euros and now Vangle has us 40 minutes from an easy WC quartefinal but he's a fraud bohoo"
Fecking Holland
You get absolute pretentious wankers like this talking the biggest shite going
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What's going on here? This doesn't look like the Dutch team in the group stage. Can't really tell if it's things just working or if it's the USA just being a bit naive.
They’re going to win it.
When Blind was here I knew he was good on the ball but I don't think I appreciated quite how good. His passing really is superb.
exactly what I predicted before the start of the world cup, they make it look so easy. Dumfries reminds me of roberto carlos. Bergwijn reminds me of Davids. And Gakpo has been a reveleation this tournament.
King Louis 19 games unbeaten
19 games unbeatenBut so what? You have been absolutely rubbish for ages now and your talent has absolutely dried up. The point of LVG was never going to be sexy football. He's ancient now. But he seems to have done really well in getting you into the WC and now into the Quarters fairly comfortably.I can tell you two haven't been watching the Dutch games this WC.
(Not that people didn't complain about the defensive playing style back in Brazil, but at least it worked: it was defensively solid and got the most out of Robben. This does none of that.)
Just seems like a lot of snobbishness from Dutch fans.
Easy game them, I don't think they needed to play much more intensely than that. They will be fresh for the QFs