Discussion in 'Manchester United Forum' started by luke511, Aug 11, 2019.
Its been 1 game. Let's wait and see?
Not as much as a stretch as saying we were robbed. He was at least worth every penny on Sunday.
1 game against a decimated Chelsea side. Are you aiming for top 4, or top 8?
Yeah, hopefully we'll see Brandon Williams given a chance there at some point in the season.
It's been one game. Calm down.
His pace is quite good, noticed that he didn't seem to be at full pelt to keep up with Pedro. Off the mark it probs my takes him a bit to get going, so if he's turned sharply it could be a problem. But having a quick wing back to cover him, plus his own awareness should limit too many problems
I didn't mean they are, just that they're reminded me of them on first impression. Time will tell, but would be great.
Honestly what we played against in terms of chelsea is exactly what they would want. Big strong forward with wide attackers. Next game will give us a proper idea of whether they will be a decent pairing.
Tuanzebe will get enough chances through injury/ suspension. If he shows/proves that he is good enough to take Lindelof’s place then that will be the time consider shifting Lindelof to DM.
Take it one game at a time before beginning to get excited. Yes, they were really impressive together as a CB pairing considering they never played a competitive game together before. It’s definitely got potential but let’s see what happens.
So far, so good
It's been only one game, true. Playing well in one game well doesn't automatically mean they are a great solution. We need another 10-15 matches before we know that.
On the other hand, they seemed to work well together and understand eachother already in their first match, that's a good sign.
Also, we saw a calmness at the back we haven't seen in a long time. We don't know if they always will play calmly like that, but now we know they have the capability. That is also a good thing.
I don't think anyone is overhyping Axel at all. But afew like myself do think he has higher potential than Victor Lindelof due to what I've already mentioned.
He's not slow and I've even said in the past few weeks that he's quicker than Lindelof. But he isn't fast and that is easy to see with ones own eyes.
If anyone can be bothered, go back and look at post match opening day last season. Baily / Lindelof- our CB was going to be immense because they had a good game together.
Though at least this time it very well could be the definitive partnership OGS wants to move forward with unlike Mou at the time who was unsure. While I have my doubts about Lindelof, I hope OGS will keep at it even if there are ups and downs or in the case of injury, this partnership will be reinstated regardless if whomever stepped in is doing a bang up job. Having a settled backline is critical to stability, think so much so that it also affected DDG performances too last season.
Dude- what's your problem. You posted the same content 3 times now.
Yeah, We can read it and get it it's only one game. If its pissing you off, please stay off the thread.
If we lost 4-0 would you be saying the same?
I think he’s being set up for a fall personally. He’s not done much at all yet. People think he’s a better option than Lindelöf. There are a lot of centre halves who are faster than Lindelöf who are not as good as him. He wasn’t that impressive in pre-season I don’t think, and has never played at centre half in the PL.
Just think some of the assertions are premature, even with regards to his perceived ceiling at this stage, as he’s played so little as a centre half. Way to go before being better than Lindelöf, but of course, each to their own opinion.
The fact that there are a considerable amount of people who want a guy that has only played in friendlies and the Championship to start (!) at United says a lot more about the fanbase than it does of either Tuanzebe or Lindelof, to be honest. Like someone else said previously in the thread; no matter how good we're performing, there's always a better option on the bench.
I can't even give a diplomatic answer without being called out for it.
The last thing this new building-out-from-the-back system needs is another centre-back who panics on the ball and passes back to De Gea whenever there's a high press. Based on what I saw of Tuanzebe in pre-season, he's not on Lindelof or Maguire's level in that regard. In fact, even when there wasn't a high press, he seemed kind of lost, to be honest. But, again, I don't claim omniscience on Tuanzebe's qualities as a centre-back because I've never watched him play outside of United. Maybe he was Bonucci-level brilliant in the Championship -- I don't know.
Not two games?
Hang on, I think it’s been one game.
Have you tried looking with someone else's eyes?
Maguire is neither slow or fast. One game and a partnership isnot sth. you talk about. Usually successful partnership requires one defender being more of tackler while the other is ball playing. Not sure if maguire/Lindelof falls to that catagory.
Yes I have, and have been told the same by a lad I know too well who trains in the first team and is still 17.
For someone who has potential but is utterly unproven. Yes, odd.
It really is ridiculous. I love Axel but this love in he's getting at the expense of Lindelof is embarrassing.
The reason people keep pushing Axel to start is the fixation with having a partnership with one fast player in the partnership. The best CB partnership post Rio and Vidic was Bonucci and Chiellini and neither one of them were pacey. Its not a must to have a pace merchant at the back even though it helps.
Lindelof is getting better every year yet some want him dropped just because.
27 posts in 5 years and 3 of them for this.
It comes at that expense because some people are still bitter that Lindelof "took" Tuanzebes place in the team. Lindelof was hated by many the first year, and as we can see he still is among some.
Tuanzebe with his pace and athleticism would compliment Maguire better.
I honestly am not a fan of the Maguire and Lindelof partnership.
Even after 1 game its safe to assume our back 4 is looking better than David Luiz and Mustafi
We are hoping to at least finish above Spurs and, by default, yourselves ;-)
Can we have some pictures of them kissing or what?
Alright bro, don’t get too excited . It’s not like your defence is exactly impenetrable.
There's this weird myth that players become complacent unless they have someone breathing down their neck to take their place. The right kind of players create their own competition. Rio and Vidic were never in danger of losing their spot, neither was Maldini, Carlos, Cafu, Baresi, Nesta or any of the other greats. They all had an inbuilt drive to beat their own performance the week before and outdo their teammates on the pitch. If Shaw can't do that he's not a Manchester United player.
Back four looking solid but we need to see how we hold up against City and Liverpool and other sterner tests before I will be 100% confident. Early indications look good though and tuanzebe waiting in the wings too.
One game or not, you can see there's serious potential there. It's so many levels above any CB partnership you can put out
That's my point, I think Shaw is that kind of player where he needs the competition. I like the lad but just get a feeling he's not very self motivating.
No matter how well Maguire and Lindelof play together their pairing is far, far better than any combination of Jones, Smalling and Baily and to be honest Id be more than happy if these 3 left United, none inspire confidence and all are liable to make cock ups at any stage of any game.
Maguire and Lindelöf looked very good together, the defence firmed up now especially on the right side with Wan-Bissaka. Only problem was Shaw tending to leave the door open down the left early on which could have embarrassed us.
Luke sometimes looks the real deal, other times you shake your head and wonder where he's got to? Shaw will need to bring his 'A' game more often now to avoid negative comparisons with any of his back four colleagues.
I was replying to an Arsenal fan if you were confused by my post.. But yeah I agree with you, although the 'Chuckle Brothers' will be useful backup for this season especially with the Europa League.
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