crossy1686
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Let’s face it, Maguire is over rated and pretty shit but he’s not as bad as VDV is suggesting. But the Dutch put way too much emphasis on ball playing ability than anything else and Maguire is piss poor at that.
Fully agree. Also, being captain makes him all that more slower as his thoughts are not focused singularly on his immediate task.We always hang on for too long and the value plummets. Sell Maguire now before he's confirmed shite. We can get 40 million for him I reckon if we moved fast.
Maybe he just thinks he's shit.Van Der Vaart having such an obsession with Maguire is one of the weirdest things I've seen in football
At least with Souness/Pogba there's the Liverpool/United rivalry, they both played/play in midfield etc
Fair enough on 1 mate.Question 1: Well I follow both the EPL and the Serie A.
Question 2: The Dutch aren't the only people who are laughing at us signing Maguire for such ridiculous sums of money. Maybe someone who follows La Liga closely might tell us if critics there tend to scratch their heads whenever the Maguire's topic is mentioned as well. Its becoming as global as the Ole at the wheel chants.
This is it. The funny thing is, I have seen so many posts about Maguire wouldn't get in the Ajax team.Their one time golden boy De Ligt has been shite for longer then Maguire has.
Wasn't that one of the main reasons he was Ole's main target?Let’s face it, Maguire is over rated and pretty shit but he’s not as bad as VDV is suggesting. But the Dutch put way too much emphasis on ball playing ability than anything else and Maguire is piss poor at that.
You shouldn't outright dismiss the idea that the best one or two CBs in the Eredivisie could be better than Maguire. It's clearly been true at times in the past (when De Ligt, De Vrij or VVD played there for instance). Obviously you've never watched them or you wouldn't have based your opinion on their career paths.The same Bazoer that was so shite in Germany, he had to go back to the Eredivisie?! He might have improved recently, but that also might have something to do with the Dutch league being a very weak league. I'm not really the biggest fan of Maguire, but claiming that Bazoer is better than him is utterly ridiculous.
He's not shit if that what you're asking and I've said it already that I believe that what VDV said was extreme. However at this level (EPL, Serie A, La Liga etc) Maguire is a very ordinary level CB. Don't take me wrong I see his strengths. He's basically an EPL old fashioned type of CB (Physically impressive, good in air) with some over average passing skills. However his weaknesses are quite striking especially in the modern game were a high defense line and pace is so important. The guy doesn't even have top positioning/anticipation or great leadership skills to at least compensate for his lack.Fair enough on 1 mate.
On 2 yeah I agree he was overpriced but there are reasons for that. Doesn't mean he is or at least always has been a bad defender.
Today CBs grew into the game, was always going to be tough but think they did well in the end.We're 7 minutes in and already, Lindelof has made three errors that Maguire would be getting hammered for.
especially when he hasn't got Maguire alongside himLindelof is better than him.
I don't even hate Maguire, Lindelof is literally just better at everything other than winning headers which often times doesn't help us as Maguire does not have the ability to win headers and manage to knock them to our players (both Vidic and Ferdinand were amazing at this) meaning we lose the second ball and they are facing our defence and we are in an even worse position than if we just lost the header to start with.especially when he hasn't got Maguire alongside him
Exactly. Baffled that people think we defended well. We got 9/10 behind the ball and basically just got away with it thanks to the likes of Werner.We're 7 minutes in and already, Lindelof has made three errors that Maguire would be getting hammered for.
Yep,We looked so much calmer at the back with Lindelof and Bailly. Simply different class
Yep, or if Woodward didn't tell klopp that we are like disneyland. Things would have also been different if DDG scored the penalty in the final. Let's go one further, imagine if we never registered as a club? Things would have really been differentThese last few posts would be singing a completely different tune if Hudson-Odoi had scored that one on one Lindelof handed him on a plate inside the first ten minutes.
Yeah. How quickly people are to pretend Lindelof and Bailly are good is baffling on here.These last few posts would be singing a completely different tune if Hudson-Odoi had scored that one on one Lindelof handed him on a plate inside the first ten minutes.
I'm sure that sounded clever in your head (:Yep, or if Woodward didn't tell klopp that we are like disneyland. Things would have also been different if DDG scored the penalty in the final. Let's go one further, imagine if we never registered as a club? Things would have really been different
More comedy gold from the Harry camp. Good one!Thought we missed him. We just couldn't handle the long balls and the second ball was right into a Chelsea player.
Its not that they are that good. But they are much better than Maguire. Still Varane with a new better partner would be preferable and then keep Linde and Bailly as bench options.Yeah. How quickly people are to pretend Lindelof and Bailly are good is baffling on here.
Amen. Let the best man win. If Maguire is in the team because his performances are better than the others then no United fan should have a problem. If not warm the bench or get sold.The evident truth is that he, Bailly, and Lindelof should all fight for the spot alongside Varane.