Man United's issue with referees is reported differently to other clubs - it influences decisions against us

[Berbasbullet]

It'll be the main issue on the agenda, 2-3 minutes on that and precisely zero mention of the fact that Sesko was pulled back just before it and Liverpool should be down to 10

Love to see a replay of that.

 

[Scholesgoals]

Sorry, tinfoil time again but I'm taking bets now on just how much time will be dedicated to discussing whether or not the ball scraped Sesko's fingernail on the second goal...

yep i've come here to look for this. Just watching the highlights now and couldn't believe how desperate it was to try and find a situation where they could disallow it.

 

[Scholesgoals]

just after i typed this kounate full one shoved sesko off the pitch after cunha got fouled badly, no replay?

 

[NinjaZombie]

It'll be the main issue on the agenda, 2-3 minutes on that and precisely zero mention of the fact that Sesko was pulled back just before it and Liverpool should be down to 10

just after i typed this kounate full one shoved sesko off the pitch after cunha got fouled badly, no replay?

Laughable how they zoomed in on the fingernail goal but barely showed both Sesko being pulled back and being clattered when scoring the 2nd goal. Kounate gets away with a blatant push on Sesko as well.

We're reffed differently. The media also treats us differently in terms of talking about any controversial decisions involving us.

If only we had a few ex-players who are constantly talking on TV. Maybe they'd defend us.

 

[Ish]

Is there any sort of index or thing to follow which tracks these sort of refereeing errors or decisions for/against?

 

[TwoSheds]

Thought the ref was absolutely shite again yesterday, a disgraceful performance.

 

[Fergie's gum]

Frimpong’s opportunistic diving and appeals after every challenge in close proximity to the penalty area, is true testament to the inconsistency of VAR. If VAR was more consistent it would have eliminated these non-starter appeals completely.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Yesterday, I felt the ref was generally decent, probably because nothing major took place, but I really appreciate him not falling for Frimpongs acting as if he's been sniped.

 

[Wolfbot]

Yesterday, I felt the ref was generally decent, probably because nothing major took place, but I really appreciate him not falling for Frimpongs acting as if he's been sniped.

Ref was shite, it was just little things but he so frequently inconsistent with them that it got really annoying really quickly.

Gave a foul for a shoulder to shoulder on Mainoo, then didn't give a foul for a much worse shove in the back of Sesko. Didn't give a foul for Mbeumo being taken out on a dangerous counter but then gave a foul about a minute later for an innocuous tap of the leg of a Liverpool player.

If you want to let everything go then fine. If you want to clamp down on everything, also fine. What's not ok is treating the same or similar incidents differently, and often getting them wrong to boot.

Luckily there weren't any significant decisions to make, because I'm not confident they would have been correct.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Ref was shite, it was just little things but he so frequently inconsistent with them that it got really annoying really quickly.

Gave a foul for a shoulder to shoulder on Mainoo, then didn't give a foul for a much worse shove in the back of Sesko. Didn't give a foul for Mbeumo being taken out on a dangerous counter but then gave a foul about a minute later for an innocuous tap of the leg of a Liverpool player.

If you want to let everything go then fine. If you want to clamp down on everything, also fine. What's not ok is treating the same or similar incidents differently, and often getting them wrong to boot.

Luckily there weren't any significant decisions to make, because I'm not confident they would have been correct.

I noticed all that but I care more about decisions that change a game, Frimpong acts a lot and if the ref fell for his acting, they could have gotten a pen and maybe red card for Shaw, for me that counts, again refs might not give us small decisions but at least we can't have a ref give unfair big decisions against us all the time

 

[whitbyviking]

I noticed all that but I care more about decisions that change a game, Frimpong acts a lot and if the ref fell for his acting, they could have gotten a pen and maybe red card for Shaw, for me that counts, again refs might not give us small decisions but at least we can't have a ref give unfair big decisions against us all the time

Middlesbrough fans I know commenting that they’ve never seen a referee at old Trafford give so many decisions against the home team. It was constant bias.

 

[elmo]

Yesterday, I felt the ref was generally decent, probably because nothing major took place, but I really appreciate him not falling for Frimpongs acting as if he's been sniped.

He was terrible, gave everything to Liverpool until the last 5 mins and he started booking Liverpool players to pretend the game was called evenly.

 

[2 man midfield]

He was terrible, gave everything to Liverpool until the last 5 mins and he started booking Liverpool players to pretend the game was called evenly.

I thought he got worse as the game went on. To the point I was genuinely surprised he didn't give Bruno a second yellow for getting in his way.

And calling a foul on dorgu at the end, when dorgu was getting fouled while on the counter attack was batshit mental. I'm glad the fourth official only added 5 on as I dread to think where he'd have ended up.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

I noticed all that but I care more about decisions that change a game, Frimpong acts a lot and if the ref fell for his acting, they could have gotten a pen and maybe red card for Shaw, for me that counts, again refs might not give us small decisions but at least we can't have a ref give unfair big decisions against us all the time

The decisions he made/didnt make DO influence the game.

Szolobolob and MacAlister should have been on yellows earlier which influences how they make tackles for the rest of the game. Same for Konate (he’s a shit player) with that stupid push on Sesko who came off injured (Lemmens was launching the ball to Sesko when pressed but didn’t/couldnt 2nd half).

We should have had at least six clear free kicks in the first half (like the soft ones Liverpool got in the second half) which get put into the area and can create chances.

Frimpong diving… a yellow card stops it.

Robertson making no attempt to properly tackle Mbeumo… a yellow stops that.

These all impact the game. Ref was absolutely shite (especially first half)… mates a Liverpool fan and amazingly agreed with me.

 

[ROFLUTION]

Felt weird to have no replay on Bruno’s incident in overtime. Guy complained much, even for Bruno, so surely they could just show a replay at minimum to tell if he was diving or not.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Middlesbrough fans I know commenting that they’ve never seen a referee at old Trafford give so many decisions against the home team. It was constant bias.

At some point, we need to worry about the major ones like the atrocious decisions vs Bournemouth and Leeds (non pen for Amad and pen against us plus Maguire red vs Bournemouth and Martinez sending off vs Leeds), the ref could've easily fallen for Frimpongs acting and he didn't to be fair, not saying he was great or something like that but at least we didn't get affected by a major decisions that impact us negatively

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

The decisions he made/didnt make DO influence the game.

Szolobolob and MacAlister should have been on yellows earlier which influences how they make tackles for the rest of the game. Same for Konate (he’s a shit player) with that stupid push on Sesko who came off injured (Lemmens was launching the ball to Sesko when pressed but didn’t/couldnt 2nd half).

We should have had at least six clear free kicks in the first half (like the soft ones Liverpool got in the second half) which get put into the area and can create chances.

Frimpong diving… a yellow card stops it.

Robertson making no attempt to properly tackle Mbeumo… a yellow stops that.

These all impact the game. Ref was absolutely shite (especially first half)… mates a Liverpool fan and amazingly agreed with me.

Again as I said earlier, the big decisions I am referring and talking about change games immediately, I am really used to us not getting decisions, recent seasons refs have seen atrocious and we get big decisions go against us constantly that I stopped worrying about the small ones really, fecker could've ruled out Sesko goal, he didn't and VAR didn't want to overturn it, thats a big decision that had major impact

 

[Denis' cuff]

Again as I said earlier, the big decisions I am referring and talking about change games immediately, I am really used to us not getting decisions, recent seasons refs have seen atrocious and we get big decisions go against us constantly that I stopped worrying about the small ones really, fecker could've ruled out Sesko goal, he didn't and VAR didn't want to overturn it, thats a big decision that had major impact

fecking hell. it’s come to this when we’re grateful for not being pulled up for a fingernail not even scratching the ball. fecking ludicrous we’re becoming brainwashed into thinking we were lucky. When will it end? Titles wil be decided by these cnuts and you know it won’t be in our favour. TV = ads = $$$$ driving the narrative. Worse thing to ever happen to the game.. and that’s only part of their influence.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Again as I said earlier, the big decisions I am referring and talking about change games immediately, I am really used to us not getting decisions, recent seasons refs have seen atrocious and we get big decisions go against us constantly that I stopped worrying about the small ones really, fecker could've ruled out Sesko goal, he didn't and VAR didn't want to overturn it, thats a big decision that had major impact

So they’d go back to the foul and we’d get a penalty and they’d get a red?

 

[whitbyviking]

So they’d go back to the foul and we’d get a penalty and they’d get a red?

Part of me wanted to see that tested to see if they apply the same principles they used in the Maguire red card incident.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

fecking hell. it’s come to this when we’re grateful for not being pulled up for a fingernail not even scratching the ball. fecking ludicrous we’re becoming brainwashed into thinking we were lucky. When will it end? Titles wil be decided by these cnuts and you know it won’t be in our favour. TV = ads = $$$$ driving the narrative. Worse thing to ever happen to the game.. and that’s only part of their influence.

Yup, it's that bad that you feel lucky the ref didn't give a major decision against us

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

So they’d go back to the foul and we’d get a penalty and they’d get a red?

Genuine question.

Which is worse: not getting a pen for us unfairly, or a pen given against us unfairly?

For me is the latter.