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Manchester City banned from CL for 2 seasons and fined 30 million euros | CAS - Ban lifted, fined 10 million
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
I understand that. But I don't understand letting one get off because others got off in the past when rules weren't in place. If you are saying FFP should be scrapped and let all teams do what they want without any regulations then fair play (*no pun intended) to you.
Probably not. But remember how Blatter when at Fifa called Ronaldo a slave at United and suggested United should let him leave? Blatter was an honorary member of Real Madrid. UEFA are just as prone to their biases and abuse of power. Will be interesting to find out how Juventus and Inter have funded their transfers considering stadiums in Italy are usually half empty... but doubt we’ll ever find out
Would be very silly indeed if the likes of us, Sheff Utd, Wolves & Spurs start thinking 5th place will definitely get champions league.
We all have to be aiming for fourth because have a gut feeling City's ban will end up being suspended or reduced.
We all have to be aiming for fourth because have a gut feeling City's ban will end up being suspended or reduced.
Do you get paid for repeating the same platitudes across the Caf? If you have nothing to add, just don‘t.
I'm shocked. Question is though, will the same thing happen with PSG?
Other clubs that risk getting punished?
Really hopes this sets a precedent and is just not a one off
Other clubs that risk getting punished?
Really hopes this sets a precedent and is just not a one off
Haha... I like the fair play thing. Only regulation I agree with are those that prevent owners without the money buying clubs. Bad owners that need regulating eg Glazers, the ones that bankrupted Portsmouth, Leyton Orient etc.
Not that I want to defend City but there are plenty of other clubs spending well above their means and haven’t been punished.
PSG spent £400m on two players, managed to defer one of the payments for a season via a loan deal with one of the most promising talents in the world. Surely evidence of foul play.
Inter have managed to sign an entire squad of players in just one season from absolutely nowhere.
Barcelona time and time again have spent millions including the very dodgy deal with Griezmann. And have managed to get an emergency signing for a injury outside of the transfer window.
I’m sure City are guilty but there has to be plenty of clubs as well that UEFA just seem to ignore.
I agree with you but if the British government actually cared wouldn’t HMRC already be investigating them? It shouldn’t take a footballing body to intervene. The ban will be overturned just like every single UEFA ban in history. The timing of the ban says it all. City have chance to appeal before next season. I guarantee they will be in the tournament next season. Their owners have too much power.
Yeah, i suppose City is an easy target seeing as they are not a historically big club and dont have a massive fanbase like Barca. Dont get me wrong i am happy they are getting their comeuppance regardless of how it benefits us (5th place PL will get CL, confirmed by UEFA), but in the grand scheme of things they cant just go after one club when there is plenty of other cases of foul play in the footballing world
Chelsea showed its not impossible. Everyone knew they built their success in the mid 00's on oil money, but has since got their books in order AFAIK
It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.
It could get quite messy.
It could get quite messy.
Let's be honest here - I'm a Chelsea fan, we play United, Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool and I'm buzzing before the game and pretty much cannot contain myself even though I'm not a teenager anymore. And then we play City and I can't give two fecks abou it to be fair. And the same goes for all my friends and all the other football fans I know.
And then this club (City) comes and tell us they are way more attractive and make way more money than the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. and they can prove it by their sponsorship deals. And I totally agree they can prove it, but still - how many of those deals are "clean" ones? I bet you that all of their biggest sponsorship deals if traced back lead to their Sheik. He is basically not handing the money personally, just using 6-7 other intermediaries.
You travel all around the world and can barely see big Man City fan bases, opposed to the other English clubs who get a good support, United and Liverpool topping these charts. Add to this City's laughable record in Europe, plus the Etihad all around atmosphere and empty seats and the general feeling around this club. It is impossible that financially this club is on par with the likes of United and Liverpool.
They are guilty and PSG should be next in line. I bet that is even worse than City judging by the league they play in and their general recognition. At least City play in the best branded football league in the world that gets the biggest recognition which frankly is second to none.
And then this club (City) comes and tell us they are way more attractive and make way more money than the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. and they can prove it by their sponsorship deals. And I totally agree they can prove it, but still - how many of those deals are "clean" ones? I bet you that all of their biggest sponsorship deals if traced back lead to their Sheik. He is basically not handing the money personally, just using 6-7 other intermediaries.
You travel all around the world and can barely see big Man City fan bases, opposed to the other English clubs who get a good support, United and Liverpool topping these charts. Add to this City's laughable record in Europe, plus the Etihad all around atmosphere and empty seats and the general feeling around this club. It is impossible that financially this club is on par with the likes of United and Liverpool.
They are guilty and PSG should be next in line. I bet that is even worse than City judging by the league they play in and their general recognition. At least City play in the best branded football league in the world that gets the biggest recognition which frankly is second to none.
Cheeky bid for Debruyne and Laporte?
My god it was the best news I've heard. Ever.
Thought something like this would never happen but glad I'm proven wrong in this case.
Curious as to see if this will bring any ramifications to their PL position and maybe even titles they won since Abu Dhabi took over. Points deduction and possible relegation on the cards as a result? I've even read they might be relegated to League 2 but that sounds just too good to happen.
Curious as to see if this will bring any ramifications to their PL position and maybe even titles they won since Abu Dhabi took over. Points deduction and possible relegation on the cards as a result? I've even read they might be relegated to League 2 but that sounds just too good to happen.
And Man City get Poccetino
What smart moves did PSG make and how did they manage to become self-sustainable? Honestly, people concentrate on City's actions but I'm very curious how PSG managed to spend an absolute fortune and continue to pay ridiculous wages to their squad and yet somehow follow the FFP guidelines. Top ten highest paid Ligue 1 players are all theirs, how can they possibly afford that?
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Seems to me, that City were just more brazen and openly arrogant in their approach, daring the authorities to do something about it and confident they can get away with it while PSG were smart enough to better cover their tracks.
Surely they strip the last 2 league titles aswell? As a sign of solidarity to other less fortunate clubs
I'm interested in this answer also.
What I will say with City was that they were desperate to show the World what a massive draw they were with their mind-blowingly nonsensical sponsorship agreements that any gimp could see right through. PSG didn't quite do the dick swinging in the same way.
Most likely City will have the ban reduced to one year. I can't see two years sticking.
PSG ought to be next but they have got their feet under the table and 'done' things the way UEFA want. City meanwhile have antagonised the hegemony and so UEFA want to make an example.
Frankly the whole sport is corrupt and when clubs like Barcelona (which once praised itself on its academy) are in huge debt and still pay out huge sums on transfers you know something is wrong.
PSG ought to be next but they have got their feet under the table and 'done' things the way UEFA want. City meanwhile have antagonised the hegemony and so UEFA want to make an example.
Frankly the whole sport is corrupt and when clubs like Barcelona (which once praised itself on its academy) are in huge debt and still pay out huge sums on transfers you know something is wrong.
The good thing is whatever happens now, whether upheld or not, every trophy City win or have won is tainted. No money going to fix that.
City team should be laughed at, at every away ground. The humiliation would be fantastic.
City team should be laughed at, at every away ground. The humiliation would be fantastic.
The emergency signing was agreed upon by all teams. Barca are owned by people not a single entity.
Their neymar deal was shady but they’ve been within the FFP rules.
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PSG are definitely violating the rules, but not in the way that Man City did.
Man City didn't even bother hiding it. They thought it was a paper exercise.
Man City didn't even bother hiding it. They thought it was a paper exercise.
Poch I believe is an honourable man, he will not want to be associated with City after this. I think he gets the United job at the end of this season.And Man City get Poccetino
This ban is for transgressions during the period 2012-16, so only presumably only trophies won in the 2012/13 through to 2015/16 seasons could be stripped away from them.
Would be that Stevie G finally gets his Pl winners medal...
this made me laugh
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This is a bit far fetched..
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/man-city-facing-points-deduction-21500707
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/man-city-facing-points-deduction-21500707
Yep. Also Pep goes and it becomes much more difficult to sign very good players. 5th place or the FA Cup winners go in to the CL i think.
Good post
it’s farfetched that any rational people read the Daily Star!
He stuck his foot in it didn't he!
He’s the sort of manager who spends 3-4 season at his club before he needs to take a break or go somewhere else. He even said he prefers it this way. It is his fourth year at City already, he may have been gone anyway and if they can’t play in CL then it may really seem pointless for him to stay as he has already won the league twice and has little more to do domestically.
Being in debt doesn’t mean you can’t spend.
CAS doesn't decide whether the actions are legal or not, they decide if the sporting body has acted within its own rules.
In this case, they will need to decide if the punishment by UEFA is in line with UEFA rules.
City don't need to have broken actual laws, only the rules of UEFA. The CL is an invite only members club, you stick to the rules or you lose your invite.
Just like any club that you or I could join. We could be ousted for breaking the rules. Whether we broke a law or not is irrelevant.
If we don't finish 5th...
Didnt the Chinese buy like 15% of the company? They ought to sue.
Mockney is Abed!
They are not self sustainable, as far as we know at the moment PSG simply used a different strategy regarding the FFP panel. They openly finance the club through sponsorship and admit it to the UEFA who then reeavaluate deals as they want in the FFP statements. The difference is that one allegedly tried to deceive the UEFA while the other didn't.
Yes but at an over inflated price. Looks like that deal was another way of circumnavigating FFP.
They’ll appeal this and get it removed. No way this is going to stick.