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I agree.
So you honestly belive someone is willing to pay him 200.000 k a week? Sorry it's a Rooney and Sanchez issue all over again.
Stupid defense. If this kind of mentality Rashy has, better get out of this club already.
What does that mean? 'No sympathy for the over-paid twats' school of thought? I'm as unhappy with the current state of affairs as anyone. Human beings are complicated. Should I just write him off? As I say, his attitude seems fine to me, he's shown plenty over the last 3 years to suggest he's got what it takes, he's all over the shop at the moment, like everyone in the club. I'm not ready to bin him yet.
Yep, he definitely made it abundantly clear Lukaku was to be second fiddle. Should have kept him onside and made him feel wanted until at least they found a replacement.That is because he was treated like shit the moment Ole stepped a foot in. Rashford dislodged him as #9 straight away and Lukaku continued to play 2nd fiddle before earning his place back in the side. He scored 3 braces in a week (Southampton, Palace and PSG) but after missing a sitter the following week at Arsenal he was dropped immediately.
Ole can speak all about Lukaku's poor attitude and how he shouldn't be here but he was the one who created a scenario and allowed it to happen. Ole's immediate treatment of Fellaini and Lukaku told us few things which we didn't think a lot of, at the time. He got rid of those two as they weren't a 'United player', a term which had been bandied for years and years to describe those two.
Now, you have Ole telling us that we are a striker short and it doesn't take 'rocket science' to understand that. Funny, how days after selling Lukaku and Sanchez he was happy telling us how we have two young players in Martial and Rashford ready to score bulk of goals, and a prospect in Greenwood whose gametime he doesn't want to impede by buying a new striker... 6 weeks later we're going for the same 33yo striker who wasn't even on our shortlist until few days before the window closedIt's just clueless and shambolic management.
To be honest, every manager has few preferences on the type of players they like. Ole is no exception to that, he didn't like Lukaku? Fair enough, but at least identify a replacement before sanctioning the sale? The thing which gives his clueless management away is that we were linked with absolutely no CF all summer long when it was evident that Lukaku was on his way. Links to Sean Longstaff, Maguire, Wan Bissaka surfaced even before James rumors and through out the summer we were constantly linked to these players by credible journos. But nothing on CF front, there were a report in Le Equipe on Ben Yedder but that was it.
Only time we were actually negotiating a deal with a CF was when Juventus offered us a swap deal for Lukaku. That was a hail-mary as we were being offered a player in Dybala who was absolute top quality. But THEN Ole decides, hey how about Mandzukic too? Can we have him as well. I mean... take out the muppetry involved in that Dybala-Lukaku swap plus Manduzkic and it just reeks of bad management and poor recruitment strategy. The player was never on our agenda until he became available (because if he were, we'd have known about lucrative wage demands and troublesome image rights) but we wanted both anyway. In the end when it was apparent that neither are coming, we decide to sell Lukaku anyway. If that wasn't enough we decide to loan Sanchez out AFTER the window had closed
I mean, the writing was on the wall back then also but too many folks lapped up 'he's clearing out the deadwood'. No he wasn't, he was simply reshaping the squad according to his preference and in the process also contributed to 'deadwood' for next manager by renewing likes of Young, Jones, Pereira and Mata.
You said you felt sorry for him. He is a professional footballer. When you play as a striker for a big team and don't deliver you will hear it.
Yep agree. I didn't like Lukaku much and slaughtered him a lot but the way Ole treated him last season was a disgrace.That is because he was treated like shit the moment Ole stepped a foot in. Rashford dislodged him as #9 straight away and Lukaku continued to play 2nd fiddle before earning his place back in the side. He scored 3 braces in a week (Southampton, Palace and PSG) but after missing a sitter the following week at Arsenal he was dropped immediately.
Ole can speak all about Lukaku's poor attitude and how he shouldn't be here but he was the one who created a scenario and allowed it to happen. Ole's immediate treatment of Fellaini and Lukaku told us few things which we didn't think a lot of, at the time. He got rid of those two as they weren't a 'United player', a term which had been bandied for years and years to describe those two.
Now, you have Ole telling us that we are a striker short and it doesn't take 'rocket science' to understand that. Funny, how days after selling Lukaku and Sanchez he was happy telling us how we have two young players in Martial and Rashford ready to score bulk of goals, and a prospect in Greenwood whose gametime he doesn't want to impede by buying a new striker... 6 weeks later we're going for the same 33yo striker who wasn't even on our shortlist until few days before the window closed
Gonna be hard to get rid of either of them with that salary. Martial can find a way to contribute on this team, Rashford needs more work. His pace is not enough and defenses know him very well by now. He has to get back to being that player who could find himself in dangerous positions. He needs to improve his first touch, finishing, and crossing. If he can do that, he has a place on this team on the right or left wing. James is still very new to this team, and defense will adapt to him as well, let's see how he adapts before planning the future with him on the left wing.
I'm no fan of getting rid of players for whom you don't have replacements in general. But if it makes you feel any better my mate who's an Inter fan keeps asking if we want Lukaku back. The bloke's lost whatever edge he had, doesn't look like he gives a shit any more. We don't need that attitude knocking around the squad, much rather have kept Sanchez who, whatever you say about him, was at least a grafter.
As I said I slaughtered Lukaku loads of times last season, but the way Ole treated him was terrible. He was in good form finally up till PSG game and once his form dropped for one game he went straight to the bench while "Rashy" form went downhill for many many games in a row and his position was never in question. It sends wrong message to the squad and players.
Why would he do that when he is not his type of player. It is like asking Klopp or Pep to stick with Andy Caroll even though they know he will not be played?
Did Klopp sell Benteke straight away?
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Ok, it wasn't that funny I was asking a genuine question. I knew he sold him just wasn't sure when.Yes
Klopp took over mid way 2015/16 season.
Benteke was sold in the August 16 window..
It was my mistake, I thought it was the poster who initially commented about Lukaku.
This is absolutely what's required! Rashford and Martial are just not good enough, never will be.
No worries, I have no problem with Lukaku going the issue is not replacing him. There were options in summer.
We should have agreed.No worries, I have no problem with Lukaku going the issue is not replacing him. There were options in summer.
We all feel let down by these guys
He is actually the sort of player Solskjaar needs to play the awful football he is getting the team to play. He was put in as a Mourinho type target man, & Solskjaar since permanent has been playing the same style. Been better of ditching Rashford & keeping Lukaku if we are playing this way.
I think we should play a 4-6-0 formation.
Is there a serious comment? The only time Rashford has shown any prolonged form was under Ole when he first took over. He didn't develop at all under Mourinho, and Mourinho has done nothing but throw sly digs about Rashford ever since he left.
Ah yeah much more hilarious if I had posted it, well worthy of two laughy emojis. Of course you can blame the manager for wanting rid and not replacing a striker who scored 40+ goals that season. That was exactly what i've said in about a million posts now.
Why do our fans still insist on pairing Rashford together with Martial? It's already quite clear Martial is few levels above and especially when comparing their striker play.
Have to say I agree with you. Martial is a much more accomplished and rounded player. He's bad because he often looks like he's not trying or his head's elsewhere. But you never doubt his quality.
